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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: nBit7 on September 07, 2007, 12:14:00 PM

Title: minimig and AmigaOS4
Post by: nBit7 on September 07, 2007, 12:14:00 PM
If a minimig variant was designed using a Xilinx Virtex4 (with PowerPC core) would it be capable of running AmigaOS4 (or MorphOS)?
Assuming a port not too much more difficult than for any other PPC hardware.  Ie.  Is the PowerPC core in the virtex much different to the ones used in A1's?
Title: Re: minimig and AmigaOS4
Post by: jj on September 07, 2007, 01:10:37 PM
What would be the point. OS4 does not use the classic chipset.  OS4 would not to be tottaly re-wrriten im guessing to run on that hardware.

Title: Re: minimig and AmigaOS4
Post by: McVenco on September 07, 2007, 01:16:10 PM
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If a minimig variant was designed using a Xilinx Virtex4 (with PowerPC core) would it be capable of running AmigaOS4 (or MorphOS)?


Those variants already exist. They are called Efika and SAM. Seriously, if it has a PPC core, it would no longer be a Minimig, would it?

The Minimig is a re-implementation of a classic 68k Amiga with custom chips, crammed onto a very small PCB. AmigaOS4 has got nothing to do with classic Amigas, it will never run on a classic Amiga either (unless you have a PPC accelerator). Next question please :-)
Title: Re: minimig and AmigaOS4
Post by: nBit7 on September 08, 2007, 02:14:21 AM
The point would be to create an open hardware platform that behaved like a classic style Amiga with PPC accelerator.  And add additional things like ATI Graphics, USB, Ethernet, IDE for the AmigaOS4/AROS/MOS side.
Title: Re: minimig and AmigaOS4
Post by: nBit7 on September 10, 2007, 11:40:19 AM
I am still interested in developing a 'super' minimig with the virtex4.  Does anyone here know if the powerPC core in this FPGA is close enough to a standalone PPC as used in AmigaOne / effica / Sam.
Title: Re: minimig and AmigaOS4
Post by: koaftder on September 10, 2007, 12:16:36 PM
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nBit7 wrote:
I am still interested in developing a 'super' minimig with the virtex4.  Does anyone here know if the powerPC core in this FPGA is close enough to a standalone PPC as used in AmigaOne / effica / Sam.


This makes no sense at all.

Title: Re: minimig and AmigaOS4
Post by: jj on September 10, 2007, 12:36:20 PM
I have just bought me a new Nokia N95.  I think somebody should port OS4 to that.  :-D  :lol:
Title: Re: minimig and AmigaOS4
Post by: nBit7 on September 10, 2007, 12:40:28 PM


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I have just bought me a new Nokia N95. I think somebody should port OS4 to that.  


Are you saying that AOS is not suitable as an embedded OS?
Title: Re: minimig and AmigaOS4
Post by: dammy on September 10, 2007, 01:11:00 PM
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Are you saying that AOS is not suitable as an embedded OS?


Embedded devices is such a global description, but for the most part, none of the Amiga like OSs, including AOS itself, aren't suitable.  Some embedded devices, you can shoehorn in a desktop OS, but that doesn't mean they are a embedded OS.


Dammy
Title: Re: minimig and AmigaOS4
Post by: nBit7 on September 10, 2007, 01:21:52 PM
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Embedded devices is such a global description, but for the most part, none of the Amiga like OSs, including AOS itself, aren't suitable. Some embedded devices, you can shoehorn in a desktop OS, but that doesn't mean they are a embedded OS.


Windows is generally not thought of as an embedded OS.  But I have two CROs at work with 'embedded' windows.  I also see no  shortages of embedded devises with WindowsCE.  
Title: Re: minimig and AmigaOS4
Post by: jj on September 10, 2007, 01:37:07 PM
But windowsCE is not a desktop OS.  Its an embedded version of Windows.

So under that premise, OS4 would have to be re-written as an embeded OS and called something else.

Title: Re: minimig and AmigaOS4
Post by: nBit7 on September 10, 2007, 01:49:19 PM
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This makes no sense at all.


Amiga Inc don't seem to have a problem with OS4 on classic PPC enabled hardware and Hyperion are said to be currently working on the classic port.  

Does a classic Amiga PPC clone really not make any sense?
Title: Re: minimig and AmigaOS4
Post by: Jupp3 on September 10, 2007, 02:24:57 PM
Could I replace the 68000 with a 486 and run AROS on it? :-P
Title: Re: minimig and AmigaOS4
Post by: dammy on September 10, 2007, 02:30:05 PM
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Could I replace the 68000 with a 486 and run AROS on it?


Probably cheaper and less work to donate to AROS68K bounty (http://thenostromo.com/teamaros2/?number=23).   :-D

Dammy
TeamAROS (http://www.teamaros.org)