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Title: Cyberstorm PPC - 040/060 fans
Post by: 57goldtop on September 03, 2007, 12:15:21 AM
Hi folks,

I just picked up a Cyberstorm PPC for my A3000D, I think it's the 200Mhz version ( has 200P written on the chip ).

The PPC fan is dying and I know I can get a replacement for it from Amigakit however, I don't believe they have one for the 060/040. My card has 060 onboard with no fan, it's going to need one in summer.

Can anybody recommend a good fan & heatsink for the 060 ?

Cheers.
Title: Re: Cyberstorm PPC - 040/060 fans
Post by: Bazzaq on September 03, 2007, 12:30:51 AM
Grab a 486 cpu cooler from somewhere.. ebay maybe.. same size as 060.

Title: Re: Cyberstorm PPC - 040/060 fans
Post by: 57goldtop on September 03, 2007, 02:01:30 AM
Thanks, I'll get one.

Will that require a modification to the drive bay in order for the accelerator to fit with the new fan ?

Title: Re: Cyberstorm PPC - 040/060 fans
Post by: yogisumo on September 03, 2007, 03:58:00 AM
I just mounted a small one on the metal bar that holds down the zorro slots in my 4000d blowing onto the 060.  Easier than trying to mount it as there is not much room for mounting anything on my board.  

I replaced the ppc fan with one that plugs into the power supply.

Title: Re: Cyberstorm PPC - 040/060 fans
Post by: 57goldtop on September 03, 2007, 06:32:59 AM
Temperatures can get quite high in Australia during summer, I don't think air blowing onto the 060 is going to help keep it cool, especially in an A3000D where everything is tight and there isn't much room for the hot air to escape.

Title: Re: Cyberstorm PPC - 040/060 fans
Post by: rkauer on September 03, 2007, 07:41:53 AM
 Here in Brazil we have high temperatures on summer, too.

 But remember, the 68060 is not a known heater. There is other chips on boards who heats much more: Amber, CIAs, the PPC CPU, Agnus (Alice in 1200/4k).

 A simple heatsink in the 060 can keep it cool enough. Pick one from a Northbrige from a dead peecee mobo.:eureka:

Title: Re: Cyberstorm PPC - 040/060 fans
Post by: 57goldtop on September 04, 2007, 06:01:42 AM
I think this looks really cool, might go this route just to give myself piece of mind. I know the other chips get hot too especially in the A3000 where things are tight.

http://www.amiga.org/gallery/index.php?n=1151

(http://www.amiga.org/gallery/images/1404/1_2273.jpg)
Title: Re: Cyberstorm PPC - 040/060 fans
Post by: Robert17 on September 04, 2007, 08:18:57 AM
You might want to consider adding a larger Heatsink to the PPC chip, when I had a CSPPC card it used to overheat and lock-up under heavy PowerPC use, and that little stock heatsink is really inadequate, even during British winter time :)

I fitted something like this to mine, it clipped straight on (carefully) with 2 clips, then glued a 40mm fan onto the top.

http://www.zalman.co.kr/eng/product/view.asp?idx=71&code=014

Robert
Title: Re: Cyberstorm PPC - 040/060 fans
Post by: Roj on September 04, 2007, 01:20:44 PM
I'd like to see some pictures of the method you and others have used used to enhance the cooling of the PPC chips, especially on vertically positioned, tower-mounted boards.

I've added a higher capacity fan to mine, but the delicate nature of the PPC chip to the board makes me want to be really sure before I make any changes that could put stress on the connection points.
Title: Re: Cyberstorm PPC - 040/060 fans
Post by: Framiga on September 04, 2007, 01:36:52 PM
i did this a couple years ago and is still working

heatsink 1 (http://www.webalice.it/cieffeeditingvideo/pics/Heatsink01.jpg)

Actually the stands are 4 with 4 springs (one shorter due the lack of space between the CSPPC and a mobo chip)

with a 50x50x10 Sunon fan

Title: Re: Cyberstorm PPC - 040/060 fans
Post by: yogisumo on September 04, 2007, 10:40:43 PM
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57goldtop wrote:
Temperatures can get quite high in Australia during summer, I don't think air blowing onto the 060 is going to help keep it cool, especially in an A3000D where everything is tight and there isn't much room for the hot air to escape.



The 060 is the least problematic.  Having a fan blow on the entire board also helps keep ram cool.  Downside is dust.  My 060 was never a problem even when temperatures get over 30F in summer.  PPC (233mhz) crashed and locked up with the stock fan though.  I kept the same heatsink and just changed the fan.  Problem solved.  Fan blowing air on the board is just insurance.
Title: Re: Cyberstorm PPC - 040/060 fans
Post by: Dandy on September 05, 2007, 10:15:24 AM
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57goldtop wrote:
Hi folks,

I just picked up a Cyberstorm PPC for my A3000D, I think it's the 200Mhz version ( has 200P written on the chip ).

...
My card has 060 onboard with no fan, it's going to need one in summer.

Can anybody recommend a good fan & heatsink for the 060 ?



Hmmmm - why do you think the 060 needs heatsink and fan during summer???

I have mine working since 1998 - without heatsink and fan on the 060 - even in the hottest summer no failure...