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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: Samuar on July 02, 2003, 12:05:22 AM
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This goes hand in hand with my other thread titled "What type of amiga do u have and what do u use it for?".
In this thread, I would be interested to know the names of the software you use and its purpose to you, plus details on frequency of use. Info on OSes, would also be of interest...
Thanks for your postings in advance,
Samuar
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Give me AmIRC and IBrowse I'm happy all day.
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Dear Frere Noel,
This is my wish list...
A powerful Tracker (Renoise (http://www.renoise.com) PPC???!!!!!!!!, Fruityloops (http://www.fruityloops.com/)?!?!????)
A Powerful Audio Editing SW (Sound Forge (http://www.sonicfoundry.com/)?!!!!!!!?)
A Powerful Audio DAW (Nuendo (http://www.nuendo.com)???!!!??, ProStation Audio (http://www.audiolabs.it)????!????)
A Powerful MIDI sequencing sw (Bars'n'Pipes Pro PPC (http://www.alfred-j-faust.de/)??!!!???)
...I'm dreaming................
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Hmm,
GCC, VBCC and StormC (the visual project manager part)
OctaMED Soundstudio
Photogenics
Lightwave
All those millions of cool bits of freeware/shareware that are perfect for doing x, y and z :-D
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@SkIEr0:
He was asking for what Amiga software you use, not what you wish for.
My most used Amiga programs:
* AmigaOS 3.9, of course! :-P
* AmIRC to chat
* YAM for email
* SuperTV for watching TV
* CreativE, SAS/C, GCC, PhxAss, and AsmPro for writing software
* IBrowse for ALL my home browsing (yes, i use an Amiga browser, and no it doesn't bother me ;)
* Personal Paint, Perfect Paint, and Photogenics for graphics.
* Protracker 4 for music composition
* SoundFX for sound file editing
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a good 3D package, like Maya.
a good 2D package like Photoshop.
a good vector package like Illustrator.
Flash, Dreamweaver, Mozilla etc...
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SAS C with all the patches - used for work and play, used daily
iBrowse
YAM - these are for web browsing/email used daily
Genesis
OS3.9/3.5/3.1/2.04/1.2 - the OS used daily
Alladin 4D
ImageFX - fun with pictures used about once per week
PPaint
DynaCadd - design of simple die parts used about twice per month
Sbase4
WordWorth - I don't use MS Office, I use these - used about twice per week
Turbocalc
STFax - faxing timesheets and such used about once per week
Lotsa games - for fun - a lot
BTW if anyone has a recent copy of Photogenics which (s)he would be willing to sell, please let me know.
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My favourtie software packages are:
Adobe Photoshop 7 (pictures)
Bradsoft Topstyle 3.1 Pro (css, html, php etc)
Opera 7.11 (browsing, email)
I use them all day every weekday. I quite like 3D studio Max 4 too, but I dont get to use it very often...
My favourite OS, well theres a tricky one. I used to love AmigaOS but going back to it now I really miss some features from other OS's, such as the Windows system-wide clipboard. Cutting/Copying and Pasting files between folders is a godsend.
Mind you, I use XP's copy-to and move-to buttons more these days so maybe if someone was to add them to the Tools menu...
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iBrowse, YAM, and ImageFX.
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Pagestream 4.1
Drawstudio
STFax (Brilliantly useful)
MicroDot
Voyager
mFTP
MysticView
OpenOffice.org on Win98 and Linux (intel laptop and A1)
LaplinkFTP
MS-Office - (came with the laptop from work and cant find anything to beat Access yet)
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Wordworth 7
AsmPro, GCC (still learning)
DeluxePaint IV (still waiting to get my hand on V version), PPaint, JPGAGA ( the best HAM8 renders I've seen )
IBrowse (still not connected to the net :( )
Amplifier
Make CD
In the future I hope to get:
- Image FX
- Pagestream
- Maybe Photogenics if Imgage FX is not enouph ( welll it has a different purpose I guess)
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Many more:)
And of course I'll use YAM when I connect the thing to the net, hopefully shortly.
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I run an A4000, same CPU since 1993. 16 MB "fast" on the mobo and 48 additional on the Fastlane Z3 SCSI card. Retina Z3BLT graphics card and Ariadne 1 ethernet.
The OS is OS 3.0, running on top of 3.1 ROMs which I bought in order to install OS 3.9, but I've never come around to that, since its advantages over my current, heavily patched and extended system are negligible.
My favourite packages are:
THOR - Thule Offline Reader. It's really the best news/mail/fido/whatever reader in existence, bar none. Some people swear by YAM, but it's not flexible enough for me, and the interface is not to my liking, either.
ArtEffect - It's the closest thing to Photoshop there is on the Amiga, and whatever the advantages of the other art packages on the Amiga are, I was reared on Photoshop. Can't really get myself to like Photogenics.
ScanQuix - used in conjunction with ArtEffect. Finally a working modern scanner solution like on the Mac or PC.
PPaint - It's like DPaint, but more modern. I just wish that it weren't so bloody slow.
KingCON - Makes every other shell/console handler seem like pure stone age.
IBrowse - People often complain about how Amiga browsers don't support this or that HTML or Javascript feature. But IBrowse has so many functions that it'd smash the PC browsers to bits if those HTML technicalities were fixed. Who needs popup killers and all that when you've got IB?
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@Iggy
Oh yeah! I forgot about the small things, yet they make ALL the difference!
I absolutely couldn't be without:
* Blacks Editor 1.0 (the subsequent versions are unstable...) If it had syntax colouring, it would be my favourite editor on any platform. (Yes, I know GoldEd has syntax colouring, but I prefer Blacks Editor, which is very good balance of power and simplicity. No eye candy for me ;)
* KingCON. So much better than VincEd. I could not be without it, especially as I am a shell junkie :-D
* MiamiDX. Runs my network, provides me with internet. Does what it is designed for and does it well.
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* Blacks Editor 1.0 (the subsequent versions are unstable...) If it had syntax colouring, it would be my favourite editor on any platform. (Yes, I know GoldEd has syntax colouring, but I prefer Blacks Editor, which is very good balance of power and simplicity. No eye candy for me ;)
I mostly use a text editor for writing mail, and for that purpose, Thor's FSED suits me nicely. For all other tasks, I use plain Ed, or sometimes CED. GED is to slow-loading for me, and the control keys are all wrong, though I do use it for updating a few files, for no particular reason. For ascii art, I'm partial to a pre-ASDG version of CygnusED, with a hard-coded US keymap.
For TCP/IP, I use AmiTCP 4.2. It took me two years to set up, but I learned how to use it in the process, so now a GUI is just superfluous to me.
Other little things:
Visage. Lots of nice shell arguments, I just wish that it would work better with graphics cards.
AmIRC. How could you not love this program?
JACOsub. It could be more modern, but it works, and it's the only contender.
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AmigaOS:
*GCC - Just got into programming
*PPaint - Still a good for web graphics ad anims
*Cinema4D - Old creaky raytracer but still easy to use.
*Webplug - Superb HTML editor with many great function (stuck at beta unfortunately :-( )
*EditPad - Does it's Job
*Shell - Does it's job, AmigaOS still has the best CLI ever, I used to use VNC but got fed up with it.
Windows:
*WinUAE - Enough said, actully that's all I use it for.
MacOS X:
*Mail - Nearly up there with YAM
*Safari - Very nice Web bowser much leaner than IE or Moz yet with all the features
*iTunes - Great MP3 Player, made me a convert to digital music.
*iChat - AIM client that fits in with the system nicely
*XChat - Port of the IRC client
*Photoshop - Enough said, how did I ever get by without it?
*BBEdit Lite - OKish Text editor
*OpenOffice - Pretty good, but needs X11 to run and so is a bit clunky, I'm looking forward to the native Aqua version due next year.
*iPhoto - just plug in my camera and iPhoto takes care of the rest :-) I don't have to use a driver or anything.
Fequency wise, I use most of the stuff listed every day. My Mac is the main machine for most things so I use those programs the most (execpt iPhoto which is only when I've taken pictures) The Amiga proves itself useful most days too :-)
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Propellerheads Reason
Logic Audio
OctaMED (and MED)
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I use plain Ed, or sometimes CED. GED is to slow-loading for me, and the control keys are all wrong
It's not nice to comment on software if you have no clue ;) With GoldED you can use exactly the same control keys. Just run the face/on utility and install the CED keymap (if you are too lazy to configure the keymap yourself, that is).
As to loading speed, that probably varies wildly with the hardware you are using. I can't count to one before it's up and running on my computers (UAE, Pegasos), which are only moderately fast @ 600MHz and 1.4GHz. On a 040/40 or with a slow 1GB HD, you have a point.
Note that, if the HD is slow, and you are a victim of "classic" hardware, it's a good idea to enable the image cache, that has a major effect on starting performance. Also, enable the "resident" option, so that any future start of the editor will be near-instant.
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Amiga:
ROM + OS 3.1
SAS/C for project development (daily)
GoldED 6 for project development (daily)
dmake for project development (daily)
gcc 3.2 for project development (daily)
ImageFX 4.5 for content creation (occasionnaly)
YAM for email (weekly)
AWeb for web (rarely)
OctaMED Soundstudio for content creation (occasionnaly)
all this is run under WinUAE on Windows 2000
Windows:
Visual C++ 6 for project development (occasionnaly)
Caligari Truespace 6.5 for content creation (occasionnaly)
Mozilla 1.3 for web and email (daily)
FruityLoops for content creation (occasionally)
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my favorite apps?
NewTek Aura (Windows)
I use it everyday :) ... It's my primary 2D package
NewTek Aura (Windows)
use it 3/4 times a week... its my primary 3D package
Macromedia Dreamweaver(Windows)
use it everyday... its my primary web design package
Swish (Windows)
use it maybe 10 times a month... its my primary flash component design app (I know I know I should use macromedia flash, but swish is 50.00 and it does the job)
XChat (Windows)
use it 24/7 365 except when on vacation, or power outage (long term, I have a UPS) .... why do I use it? is there a better IRC client for any platform?... I mean you can use Xchat on OSX,Linux,FreeBSD,Windows, etc etc etc...and its great!...no mIRC crap!...
other apps of note I couldnt do without
Adobe Photoshop, Vidget(awesome conversion tool), Adobe Illustrator, and thats about it... sorry they are all windows apps...they'll be on a mac soon :) ... even Aura maybe... but for now I need to use them on PC :( ...
great amiga apps!
Pagestream, ImageFX, Photogenics, and AmIRC (just like XChat)...
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Dietmar wrote:
I use plain Ed, or sometimes CED. GED is to slow-loading for me, and the control keys are all wrong
It's not nice to comment on software if you have no clue ;) With GoldED you can use exactly the same control keys. Just run the face/on utility and install the CED keymap (if you are too lazy to configure the keymap yourself, that is).
As to loading speed, that probably varies wildly with the hardware you are using. I can't count to one before it's up and running on my computers (UAE, Pegasos), which are only moderately fast @ 600MHz and 1.4GHz. On a 040/40 or with a slow 1GB HD, you have a point.
Note that, if the HD is slow, and you are a victim of "classic" hardware, it's a good idea to enable the image cache, that has a major effect on starting performance. Also, enable the "resident" option, so that any future start of the editor will be near-instant.
It's not nice to accuse people of not having a clue, Hr. Eilert. ;-)
However, my light use of GED hasn't given me any incentive to explore all its features. And no matter what you might think, Clipboard functions should use the keys favoured by every other Amiga application in existence, just like you quit with RAmiga-Q and open a document with RAmiga-O. It's your program, so you're free to set any key combinations you wish, but I reserve the right to complain about lack of adherence to interface standards.
You're right, I do use a lowly 040, I just don't expect a speed penalty when using a text editor. Your computers, OTOH, aren't moderately fast, they're absurdly fast.
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amirc , ibrowse , yam , miamidx.
lightwave5.x ,imagefx 4.x, adpro 2.x, wildfirePPC 7.x and ofcourse CED + devpac3.x
but most of all i use AMIGA OS 3.9!
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On the amiga:
Personal Paint
and Storm C...
thats basically all I use these days...
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> It's not nice to accuse people of not having a clue, Hr. Eilert [...] clipboard functions should use the keys favoured by every other Amiga application in existence
Maybe you should actually download and install a recent GoldED, "Mr. Drougge", that would help very much with such arguments. It uses favoured keys quite consistently. For example, "amiga-c" is used for copy. Besides, the program is configurable. If you don't like the preconfigured shortcuts, changing one will take five seconds or so. And, as already stated above, if you are more happy with the CED keymap, just install it.
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Hr. Eilert, I have refrained from upgrading my GED, both since I fear that it will be even slower, and since my current version does all I use it for. If I were a programmer, I would probably be more inclined both to use a newer version and configure it properly. As it stands, though, I just put up with it.
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> I have refrained from upgrading my GED, both since I fear that it will be even slower
Iggy, I'm working very hard on making it slower with each update. The recent history still contains sixteen references to features now faster but I think I'll get better at making it slower with more practice.
To work a bit on your expertise (or rather the lack of it ;), install GoldED4 and compare it against GoldED AIX. This is helped by the built-in benchmark command "task bench". You will find that the latter has not only many more features but is significantly faster.
You obviously can't compare GoldED to a simplistic editor such as CED, which has no folding, no syntax highlighting, no plug-ins, no toolbars, no real user interface. It would be a minor miracle if CED would not load faster on a 040/40. With such ancient hardware, CED may very well be the best choice for you. You could however find decent hardware for 150 US$ on ebay that would run (not only) GoldED blazingly fast.