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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: eagleliu on August 30, 2007, 04:24:56 PM
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Hi, friends,as CF card capacity is bigger and bigger,now 16GB CF is normal,but the price of CF card becomes more cheaper day after day.Why don't we put one CF to IDE adapter in the computer,then we can install operation systerm in CF card as harddisk,it is very fast ,small power,little voice.I suggest you can use the following CF to IDE adapter.
http://www.pcadapter.cn/uploadfile/product_big/2007815183513510.jpg
http://www.pcadapter.cn/uploadfile/product_big/20078161012315294.jpg
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Or just buy a solid state hard disk - they're coming down massively in price now too (and they're basically exactly the same - CF cards with a IDE interface).
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Good idea, but we're way ahead of you mate.
Using simple IDE - CF adapters is becoming very popular now for remaining Amiga users, especially in models such as the A1200 and A600 because of size and power consumption limitations.
Here is a neat image (http://www.amiga.org/gallery/index.php?n=1640=10) by a member here showing it being done.
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People have been fitting CF cards into classic computers for many years. CF is a PATA IDE device just like a hard drive.
While CF will never be as cheap as a hard drive (it wont) it is becoming more convenient for classic computers.
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The only problem I'd be concerned about is the life of the CF card. Flash memory can only perform so many "rewrite" cycles in its lifetime before it begins to fail, considerably much less than a regular laptop hard drive. I don't see this as being a huge issue with Amiga systems as they don't allocate virtual memory and temp files to hard drives like the Windows operating systems do, but it's still something to keep in mind if you are doing extensive rewrite operations to the card.
:-D
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ummmm, pretty sure it reads as well
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Yeah the limited read/write lifespan of CF cards is what has prevented me from using this in my Amiga so far. Frequent backups to more permanent media seem wise for anyone who has done this mod.
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Never had a problem so far and I've been running my home CVS server on a small minibox computer from CF card for years now and I access CVS pretty much every day.
I love it. It's small, silent, uses very little power and keeps going and going pretty much forever it seems.
I have the device that's shown on the top of this page (with the blue display): http://www.mini-box.com/s.nl/sc.8/category.12/.f
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Look at the other message that the threadstarter posted. He's nothing but a spammer. Ban him please.
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Asus have a subnotebook coming out - I'm buying my daughter one for Christmas - that uses CF rather than HD internally. Can't wait.
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being a big fan of USB drives I like this idea (and have thought of it long ago), but how would I use that in my Amiga 2000 (which probably has a dead HD at this point)?
What would the interface be for a 2000 - which tends to be the model left out of things like USB, etc.
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If you can get an IDE card for it, you can use the same IDE-CF adapters that others are using. I dont know if there's a SCSI-CF adapter, I kind of doubt it. IDE cards do exist for A2000s though.
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@eagleliu
I have heard that CF is not a very good option for windows users, due to the fact that they have a pretty low write cycle count before they degrade.
Though with a OS like AmigaOS, this should not be a problem at all.
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McVenco wrote:
Look at the other message that the threadstarter posted. He's nothing but a spammer. Ban him please.
Maybe a warning would be sufficient?
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Hi,
some months ago I wrote a tutorial on Jurassic Pack about how to install one of these CF IDE cards.
http://bitfellas.org/e107_plugins/content/content.php?content.159
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Why a good idea becomes a spammer?Perhaps smaller computers with CF cards will be very popular in future years.
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@McVenco
His first post was an advert, for sure.
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@McVenco:
Mr, you should pay attention to what spam actually means before stirring things up (ie. it''s not about selling goods).
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Mr, you should pay attention to what spam actually means before stirring things up (ie. it''s not about selling goods).
When someone creates an account on a forum and immediately posts 2 messages promoting some Chinese website selling computer stuff, that's pretty much spam to me. It's not about selling goods you say? I beg to differ in this case...
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How much are these adapters?
Seems a nice idea to me.
Nothing wrong with one of those and have a HDD for backup in case.
I backup all my Amiga software by using MakeCD any way up.
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So your saying that AmigaKit is a spammer, yes?
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Fight, fight, fight, fight.
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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it IS SPAM!!
look at his profile, it has the same address as the links he posted in Chin-girsh above.
While it may be a subject we can all chime in about, it is still unsolicited marketing, IE SPAM!!!
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I agree SPAM is SPAM, so am I to believe that Amiga.org endorses SPAM then?
Because nothing has been done about it.
Or does SPAM not come into the rules.
If this has nothing done about it then SPAM is here to stay.
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reddwarfer wrote:
So your saying that AmigaKit is a spammer, yes?
No. Amigakit sells Amiga hardware and is a well known and respected person over here. I doubt this Chinese figure has even heard of, let alone USED an Amiga, so I will classify this stuff as spam.
And check his website: only 293 visitors? Pretty questionable if you ask me....
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McVenco McVoiced:
Look at the other message that the threadstarter posted. He's nothing but a spammer. Ban him please.
:roll: What I think is sensible is to moderate threads/posts/people on a case-by-case basis. Don't ban the new guy just because his first few posts relate to things he thinks the Amiga community might be interested in. After all, what would you prefer he post about first? Sex, religion and politics? Please.
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swift240 wrote:
How much are these adapters?
Dirt cheap, only a few £ each on Ebay.
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MaDDuck wrote:
it IS SPAM!!
look at his profile, it has the same address as the links he posted in Chin-girsh above.
While it may be a subject we can all chime in about, it is still unsolicited marketing, IE SPAM!!!
What do I care about his profile? Selling goods isn't spam.
From wiki:
spam (countable and uncountable; plural spams)
1. (uncountable noun) slang, term used in a negative sense designating an "unwanted, annoying, or inappropriate advertisement, or promotion."
Could you please stop sending me these college spam magazines?
2. (uncountable noun) A collection of unsolicited bulk electronic messages.
I get far too much spam.
3. (countable noun) An unsolicited electronic message sent in bulk, e.g. by email or newsgroups.
I received 58 spams yesterday.
4. (proper noun) A canned meat product made of pork and ham, first produced by Hormel Foods in 1937 in (see SPAM).
»Spamming is the abuse of electronic messaging systems to indiscriminately send unsolicited bulk messages.
»Forum spam, posting advertisements or useless posts on a forum.
Having CF on IDE is interesting as far as Amiga goes, and probably to others, it ain't nothing bulk on it it ain't like the spam I get on mail.
I might also call some of you spammers those who post things who annoy me, all with far more then 3 posts,... :roll:
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With all the talk of CF cards crapping out I was a bit nervous about using it as a quick storage device. But after seeing thats what the ASUS EEE is using it makes me think Intel probably did a little research into it so they probably are not nearly as 'dangerous' a media as people here seem to make it out. Dont they have a read/write fail statistic on all the cards anyway?
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Hi,
AFAIK wear-levelling algorithms implemented in either software (one of the new Linux kernel MT drivers has such an algorithm if I'm not mistaken) or the controller, can extend the life of NAND cards significantly.
The CF card actually has a mini IDE controller in it, which performs wear-levelling. Combining this with up to 1000000 max write cycles means that CF can last for ages (actually I just read that 'industrial' CF can do 2mil + cycles now!).
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Will this work with my A4000T?
Is it good enough or should I get better stuff, if so what?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320154844859&translate=no&ssPageName=LanguageToggle
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If the 4000T has an IDE interface, it should. There are also ones for 2.5" IDE (A1200/600). I've seen a few with both 3.5" and 2.5" IDE connectors for under $20US.
Ive read some stuff saying that CF cards have a write cycle lifespan of 100000 (hundred thousand) rather than 1000000 (million)... if its really a million or two, that sounds worthwhile. I havent done it since I'd read 100000, which is fine for something like a camera but would suck on a computer.
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Hey,Hey,man,I just spell out my good ideas,this is discuss space,not your home,OK? If you are really interested in,pls give us your new ideas,not just spam,spam!!
MaDDuck wrote:
it IS SPAM!!
look at his profile, it has the same address as the links he posted in Chin-girsh above.
While it may be a subject we can all chime in about, it is still unsolicited marketing, IE SPAM!!!
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ZyBeR wrote:
Will this work with my A4000T?
Is it good enough or should I get better stuff, if so what?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320154844859&translate=no&ssPageName=LanguageToggle
The adapter is ours,:madashell: Althougn our goods is very cheap ,but we are angry that this USA guy sell goods with our adapter as free gift. We will stop him.