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Title: Mouse from Amiga's Office w/Security Sticker!
Post by: Xand on June 30, 2003, 11:13:19 PM
Mouse from Amiga's Office w/Security Sticker!  
Item # 2739304080  

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2739304080&category=4598  :roll:   :roll:

There are other things being auctioned too.
Title: Re: Mouse from Amiga's Office w/Security Sticker!
Post by: mikeymike on June 30, 2003, 11:18:12 PM
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There are other things being auctioned too.
_________________
The Boing Bug!!!

A1200 Power Tower, MediatorSX, Voodoo3-3000, SoundBlaster 128PCI, 100mbps Realtek ethernet, BPPC 603e+/240mhz & 040/25 (soon to be a QuadDoubler), 256MB Fast RAM, SCSI-2, 16XDVD, 48X16X48X CDRW, PowerNEWQ (7-band Equalizer), 40GB HDD, LS120, 4xEIDE '99 (VERY BUGGY), 1084S-D1, Boss Subwoofer/speakers, 17" Relisys Monitor, OS3.9BB2

Things to be added: PowerFlyer Gold, Flicker Magic, Subway, CompactFlash to IDE Adaptor & 5 256MB CF cards for various OS setups, SharkPPC G4


Wow, all of that stuff?  Interesting!


Title: Re: Mouse from Amiga's Office w/Security Sticker!
Post by: Xand on June 30, 2003, 11:19:32 PM
@mikeymike


Cute...

Title: Re: Mouse from Amiga's Office w/Security Sticker!
Post by: mikeymike on June 30, 2003, 11:19:52 PM
What brand is the mouse, btw? :-)
Title: Re: Mouse from Amiga's Office w/Security Sticker!
Post by: Xand on June 30, 2003, 11:20:50 PM
I'm not selling the stuff, I was just pointing it out. I think it said it was a Gateway.
Title: Re: Mouse from Amiga's Office w/Security Sticker!
Post by: Vincent on June 30, 2003, 11:40:21 PM
Yup, it definitely says Gateway.
Title: Re: Mouse from Amiga's Office w/Security Sticker!
Post by: Lando on June 30, 2003, 11:43:09 PM
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Vincent wrote:
Yup, it definitely says Gateway.


Must've come free when they bought Amiga from Gateway.

"Buy Amiga and get this mouse worth $5.99 absolutely free! (terms and conditions apply)"
Title: Re: Mouse from Amiga's Office w/Security Sticker!
Post by: Cyberus on June 30, 2003, 11:43:20 PM
I wonder is they could just auction the sticker  :-P
Title: Re: Mouse from Amiga's Office w/Security Sticker!
Post by: Ilwrath on July 01, 2003, 12:56:35 AM
Actually, it looks a lot like a Gateway branded version of the "Microsoft Basic Mouse."

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I wonder is they could just auction the sticker


Yeah... essentially, you'd be bidding on a small sticker, and a large amount of irony.  ;-)
Title: Re: Mouse from Amiga's Office w/Security Sticker!
Post by: realpix.com on July 01, 2003, 05:40:18 AM
There will be things added over the next few days.

Amiga SDK (for Red hat Linux) - lots of trivia items from the Amiga former offices.

I have 5 Gateway Amiga systems - 128 MB, Gateway EV700 monitor, keyboard, mouse - NO HARD DRIVE -
(most had 10 Gig HD's) will be putting that up soon. Each piece has the Amiga "security sticker".

Gateway and other keyboards w/security stickers,

I have a LOT of software manuals for Windows software - also some CD's with software and/or install stuff.

Naturally Speaking Dragon Software - new in box with Comp USA sticker on it, (179.99).

Revolving plastic office trays used in the Amaiga offices (sorry no sticker) but maybe I should include a copy of the auction recceipt and a COA (Certificate of Authenticity.

I have 4 pallets and 51 boxes of Amiga stuff.

Will be posting some pics of some nice items I've received (and will keep).

The Dell Lassisitude Laptop (Pentium II 400 Mhz),
the Gateway 15" flat screen monitor, the Toshiba laptop running Windows XP professional.

One bizarre item is the "scarecrow" - stuffed with newspaper and a head on a stick that was inserted into the scarecrow. I have no idea who was supposed to be replicated by this item.

I obtained a room full of material from the landlord (Tom - of the Inception Group) of items that weren't up for sale at the James Murphy aucton.

The BOINGED ball posters and the box of 70 or so SDK software.

Also, FREE BOINGED BALL posters to those who send me or PayPal me (rww@realpix.com) $5.55 shipping costs. Items are sent via US Priority Mail w/delivery confirmation in the special USPS poster mailing box.

See item posted on ANN.lu or PayPal, check, MO (payable to Rich Woods).

Poster viewable at http://www.merlanica.us/amigaauction/amigaboinged.jpg

These are absolute MINT (still in the wrapped up shipping method direct from the printer!).

And for those who say I am making money on this - US Priority Mail $3.85 plus .45 for delivery confirmation, around .55 cents for paypal fees, gas, packing materials - left with pretty much nothing.



 
Title: Re: Mouse from Amiga's Office w/Security Sticker!
Post by: Floid on July 01, 2003, 06:01:07 AM
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realpix.com wrote:
One bizarre item is the "scarecrow" - stuffed with newspaper and a head on a stick that was inserted into the scarecrow. I have no idea who was supposed to be replicated by this item.
Hmm, wasn't it around (an) October when this whole mess started to go down?  Standard seasonal decor, maybe with some sort of personal [anti-Gates/Jobs/competition?; internal in-joke lampooning?] touch?  Or is it weirder than that?
Title: Re: Mouse from Amiga's Office w/Security Sticker!
Post by: realpix.com on July 01, 2003, 06:40:54 AM
Got no idea whom is represented. Remember they got their office locked around Aug 16, 2002. So this wouldn't be a Halloween type of thing.

Even have 2 Christmas wreaths from the office.

And their bulletin board header, and their State of CA official Business License, and their bowling sheet attached to their company bulletin board.

And their In/Out board with names of Amiga officials.

I'll be posting that tommorrow.

Title: Re: Mouse from Amiga's Office w/Security Sticker!
Post by: ottomobiehl on July 01, 2003, 08:54:16 AM
I could think of some better things to spend their money on than a bunch of stickers to mark everything in their office "Property of Amiga Inc."  :-x

No wonder the rent didn't get paid.
Title: Re: Mouse from Amiga's Office w/Security Sticker!
Post by: realpix.com on July 01, 2003, 09:22:50 AM
That's standard practice in businesses to mark their computer and other equipment.

The stickers cost pennies. Their rent was first around $20K and month and their second rental contract was at $15K a month.

BTW - pics of the nice Dell Pentium II 400 MHZ system (with docking port etc) is available at

http://www.merlanica.us/amigaauction/aadell1.jpg

It still has the auction company's sticker on it -this was the 1st item auctioned off- paid $250 for it.

http://www.merlancia.us/amigaauction/aadell2.jpg

This shows the Dell opening screen.

Thanks Amiga guys - decent system for a cheap price.


Title: Re: Mouse from Amiga's Office w/Security Sticker!
Post by: takemehomegrandma on July 01, 2003, 11:28:26 AM
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Hmm, wasn't it around (an) October when this whole mess started to go down?


No it was much earlier than that. Go back and search for Bolton Pecks post on ann.lu. Read that and you will get a feeling of when it started.

You will also note how certain happenings/public announcements corresponds pretty good to some time indications in Mr Pecks post. It explains a lot of the mysterious turns from Amiga back then.
Title: Re: Mouse from Amiga's Office w/Security Sticker!
Post by: takemehomegrandma on July 01, 2003, 11:30:21 AM
@ realpix.com

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and their State of CA official Business License,


:-o

Could we please see a photo/scan of that? Will it be for sale as well?
Title: Re: Mouse from Amiga's Office w/Security Sticker!
Post by: takemehomegrandma on July 01, 2003, 11:35:54 AM
@ realpix.com

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and the box of 70 or so SDK software.



Wasn't the SDK released in two (or more) different versions, one initial and one updated version later on (that required a signed NDA?). Is it possible to tell which version this is?

(EDIT - BTW, the http://www.merlanica.us/amigaauction/amigaboinged.jpg and http://www.merlanica.us/amigaauction/aadell1.jpg doesn't seem to work)
Title: Re: Mouse from Amiga's Office w/Security Sticker!
Post by: realpix.com on July 01, 2003, 05:47:56 PM
Peck's lawsuit was end of 2002 - in 2002 there were quite a few lawsuits against Amiga - the getting locked out of the offices, the Airborne Express lawsuit, Pecks and Fontenot's lawsuits - it pretty much hit Amiga all at once (in about 4 months or so).

Peck's lawsuit will be made available shortly. (Scanned court docs).

And certainly his remarks have the ring of truth.
Title: Re: Mouse from Amiga's Office w/Security Sticker!
Post by: realpix.com on July 01, 2003, 05:50:57 PM
The state license will be up also shortly. (Can only use my Mavica as using my sony camcorder with the 560x zoom is difficult since windows took a dive on me.

For sale - I don't know. If I could get a REAL nice price for it - have a ton of credit card debt as the entire trip and auction purchases went on my CC.

I don't like debt - I've learned my leson from years ago.
Title: Re: Mouse from Amiga's Office w/Security Sticker!
Post by: realpix.com on July 01, 2003, 05:56:23 PM
Wasn't the SDK released in two (or more) different versions, one initial and one updated version later on (that required a signed NDA?). Is it possible to tell which version this is?

(EDIT - BTW, the http://www.merlanica.us/amigaauction/amigaboinged.jpg and http://www.merlanica.us/amigaauction/aadell1.jpg doesn't seem to work)
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The SDK was released in a Red Hat Linux version and a Windows version. I have approx 70 of the Red Hat Linux version.

As far as the NDA goes - I don't think there is much chance of Amiga forcing people at this point to sign NDA's - plus I have legal title to the ones I have and I'm selling them at a good price. ($55). Brand new.

As for the links there are typos in the word merlancia -

http://www.merlancia.us/amigaauction/amigaboinged.jpg and
http://www.merlancia.us/amigaauction/aadell1.jpg

might as well just go to amigaauction/ and grab all the files there.
Title: Re: Mouse from Amiga's Office w/Security Sticker!
Post by: downix on July 01, 2003, 06:09:06 PM
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I don't like debt - I've learned my leson from years ago.


IKWYM!  I learned my own lesson awhile ago.

Pity ya didn't get Bill's office desk plaque.
Title: Re: Mouse from Amiga's Office w/Security Sticker!
Post by: HMetal on July 01, 2003, 09:45:48 PM
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takemehomegrandma wrote:
Wasn't the SDK released in two (or more) different versions, one initial and one updated version later on (that required a signed NDA?).


You have never had to sign an NDA unless you wanted to receive SDK updates from our services site.
Title: Re: Mouse from Amiga's Office w/Security Sticker!
Post by: HMetal on July 01, 2003, 09:51:24 PM
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realpix.com wrote:
As far as the NDA goes - I don't think there is much chance of Amiga forcing people at this point to sign NDA's - plus I have legal title to the ones I have and I'm selling them at a good price.


You're quite mistaken, Rich.  Amiga does require an NDA in order for the owner of the SDK to download updates.  Until this changes, neither myself, Gary Peake nor any other Amiga support person will give the purchaser download access to updates without the signed NDA.

So, whether you or I or anyone else likes it or not, someone CAN buy these from you legally but they will not get the support they'll require without signing the NDA, until and unless policy changes.

And, btw, I'm just making sure your "customer" is well aware of the procedure.  Don't shoot the messenger.
Title: Re: Mouse from Amiga's Office w/Security Sticker!
Post by: Dietmar on July 02, 2003, 12:25:07 PM
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Revolving plastic office trays used in the Amaiga offices (sorry no sticker) but maybe I should include a copy of the auction recceipt and a COA (Certificate of Authenticity.


Maybe you should get a brain? Oops, wasn't on the auction list ;)
Title: Re: Mouse from Amiga's Office w/Security Sticker!
Post by: MarkTime on July 02, 2003, 04:06:33 PM
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HMetal wrote:
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takemehomegrandma wrote:
Wasn't the SDK released in two (or more) different versions, one initial and one updated version later on (that required a signed NDA?).


You have never had to sign an NDA unless you wanted to receive SDK updates from our services site.


Ray, see your very next message in this thread.  You said that receiving the SDK update is a requirement for using the product, and therefore the NDA is also a requirement.

well is it, a requirement or not?

I'll help you...your next message was the accurate one....

signing an NDA is, indeed, a requirement, or this product is simply not useful.  signing an NDA is a strange and bizarre restriction for a development environment...I mean most companies would have opted for high publicity and maximum distribution, but then Amiga went for the no-profits, obscurity route....bold choice, how is that working out for you?

well, that another topic, but it does make these SDK's not very useful. imho



Title: Re: Mouse from Amiga's Office w/Security Sticker!
Post by: Kees on July 02, 2003, 07:19:17 PM
Ouch ... this must hurt ....

I wouldn't like to see some1 buying MY stuff from some1 else and then seeing it beeing offered again ..

ouch ...
Title: Re: Mouse from Amiga's Office w/Security Sticker!
Post by: CodeSmith on July 02, 2003, 07:31:21 PM
@MarkTime:

Yes, so unusual... can you explain why Genesi was also doing this a few months ago?

Ooh, ooh, I know! maybe the technology wasn't FINISHED yet and they wanted to polish it before distributing it to the rest of the world? I know THAT is what you're going to say wrt MOS, right?  ;-)
Title: Re: Mouse from Amiga's Office w/Security Sticker!
Post by: Cyberus on July 02, 2003, 07:38:45 PM
Apologies for the crudeness, but I'm starting to wonder if I couldn't take a photograph of my @$$ and auction it on eBay... :-D
Title: Re: Mouse from Amiga's Office w/Security Sticker!
Post by: HMetal on July 02, 2003, 07:59:03 PM
@Marktime

Uhm..  Where did you read this?  It certainly wasn't in what I posted.

I did not say that an SDK update was required for the product to be used.

I said, Amiga requires no NDA to be signed UNLESS YOU WANT AN UPDATE (e.g. download a newer version than you have, if there is a newer version available).

I know the difference is pedantic, but what I said is correct. The original boxed SDK was (and for some, still is) indeed useful as amigadev.net is full of applications that were ported to it.  It isn't the "latest and greatest" but for those who don't want to sign an NDA (or even an SDA), it is still useful, although less than it would be with the NDA/SDA.

In any case, I am aware of personally of what (some) developers feel on the free SDK topic.   I agree that free and widespread would rock, but I do not make those decisions. Amiga has licensing fees to pay so, we cannot give away the SDK.  If we could, you can bet your hiney Gary and I would have made it available far and wide, long ago.

The future could change this and you could possibly see a free AmigaDE/-Anywhere SDK someday but I cannot promise this as you may or may not be aware, there are still a few hurdles to bypass until we get to that point.
Title: Re: Mouse from Amiga's Office w/Security Sticker!
Post by: HMetal on July 02, 2003, 08:04:35 PM
@Cyberus

I am inclined to believe it would get a bid or two.   A friend of mine goes looking for these obscure items (for the shock value) and has found used underwear and all sorts of things on Ebay.

I'm sure Rich might be able to post some of the used snot rags he got from the cans of garbage he rummaged or bought too.  Some people around here might even bid, seeing it as an alternative to Bill's CEO card.  ;-)