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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: vic20owner on August 11, 2007, 04:44:57 PM
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Hi, I'm trying to play the state of the art demo on my a1200 to really impress my lady and show her what the amiga can do, but I have a few issues... no DSDD disks to write via DMS, and every HD disk I've tried (despite covering the extra hole) fails.
I can get to the internet from the A1200... any suggestions?
Any way to run this demo from ram disk or HD instead of as a boot loader?
thanks
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WHDLoad (http://www.whdload.de/)
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WHDLoad will mount a DMS file?
The problem is how I can get the file unpacked on the Amiga without a floppy disk in the first place.
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IIRC the Spaceballs demo (could be Nine Fingers as well though) is part of the Amikit package, where it runs from WHDLoad. I could be mistaken though, but I'm pretty sure I've seen demos running under WHDLoad.
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Just unpack it to RAD (or another virtual floppy like FMS, etc.) and install it with WHDLoad.
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Did all of that and end up with:
"nmi autovector" ($7C)
at $3F97C
after hearing two drum beats.
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Tried v2 of the state of the art demo and it runs for 5 seconds and then dies, same error.
Any other ideas guys?
I would really like to see this play on a real Amiga.. will it not run on an A1200?
I have a Microbotics 1230 installed.. 64mb fast.
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Looks like you'll have to locate a DD floppy and run your Ami in original chip set.
You're telling me that someone nearby can't lend you a few DD floppies?
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I wish but I don't think anyone near me has seen a DD floppy in 10 years.
Will this demo run on a 68030/expanded A1200?
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You need to write the DMS to a floppy disk.
Then you need to install WHDLoad and SKick and the ROM images for Amiga 500.
Then you need to download the State of the Art WHDLoad Installer off the WHDLoad site.
Run the installer. It will ask you to insert the State of the Art disk.
You then have SOTA on your hard drive and you can run it by clicking its icon. You wont be able to run it without WHDLoad because the demo isnt quite AGA compatible. WHDLoad fixes that. The "disk failures" youve had may be due to AGA incompatibilities more than the disks being bad.
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I just WHDLoad installed it, if you want it I can email it to you in LZX format.
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Really? On an A1200? Please email it! That would be awesome.
Did you have to use the A500 roms or anything like that?
vic20owner(AT)tampabay.rr.com
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I believe there is a pre-installed HD version on Aminet:
http://aminet.net/demo/file/StateOfTheArt.lha
I have great memories watching this demo on my A500, back in the day.
Cheers,
James
x
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Tried that one too... black screen and crash on my A1200.
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Personally, I liked "Symbolia" better than "State of the Art".
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Thanks, I got that one to run by booting with no startup and adding my fast mem.
Still no luck with state of the art... symbolia is pretty good, but the music and general feeling is not as exciting as state of the art to me.
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I have watched this demo on a A1200 with a 68030 and some fast-ram using WHDLoad, without any problems. It was long ago and i was using an older version of WHDLoad. So perhaps the demo has problems with newer versions, although i doubt.
You say that every HD disk that you have tried failed even when you cover the second hole. Well, that shouldn't happen. They should have work like normal DD disks. I suspect that there is something wrong with your setup.
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I have SOTA running on my 1200. You will need to follow the steps I gave before. As far as I know there is no other way to run it on a 1200 other than to use WHDLoad along with the A500 ROM image (by way of skick). You can use the AmigaForever ROM images if you have that, or there are numerous pirate copies of the ROM floating around the net which we cant list here. If you use the AmigaForever ROM be sure to copy the rom.key to DEVS:Kickstarts/ too.
There is a program to make a ROM image on an A500 yourself, but I guess if you still had a 500 you wouldnt be trying so hard to make it work on a 1200 ;)
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Thanks.
I tried skicking the A500 rom (37.175), and when that happens the IDE devices do not work, so I cannot boot or access WHDload.
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:lol:
You better not tell your lady the trouble you went through. She won't be impressed then.
:lol:
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Something I could have done with the emulator in a few minutes is taking 2 days and counting on the real thing.
:crazy:
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The WHDLoad version works well on the A1200, did it work for you?
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Maybe telling you to install the files wasn't clear enough...
You dont run skick! Just install it. WHDLoad will use it, or rather I think it only uses the RTB files. This is *all* you need to do... Please do ONLY these steps. If you go off and decide to try running various programs without knowing why you're running them, you may not get the expected result. You only need to have these programs on your drive.
1) Install SKick, and its .RTB files
2) Install ROM images to DEVS:Kickstarts as Skick docs say.
3) Install WHDLoad
4) Put State Of The Art on a floppy
5) Get the State Of The Art installer from www.whdload.de
6) Un-lha the installer, run the Install file in it
7) Insert the State Of The Art disk when asked
8) Go to the dir where you installed SOTA and click its icon
9) Watch demo
10) Get laid due to girlfriend impressed with your geek skills
Dont do anything else. Don't try running random parts of Skick or WHDLoad. JUST install them. You just need the files in place.
I don't guarantee step 10, but if you do the other steps, you will be able to watch State Of The Art.
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I think my rom may be named incorrectly... will try again...thanks.
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I would love to see this, is there any YouTube videos of this demo?
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Broken fingers?? Search for State of the art with your nose! :-P
Doesn't look really well in chunky youtube quality.
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Yeah, theres a few copies of it on YouTube. They look like total crap though, all the pictures are blocky and distorted.
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Did all of that and end up with:
"nmi autovector" ($7C)
Did you get that error when trying to start the whdload version? If so, try adding the parameter NoAutoVec
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1) Install SKick, and its .RTB files
2) Install ROM images to DEVS:Kickstarts as Skick docs say.
3) Install WHDLoad
4) Put State Of The Art on a floppy
5) Get the State Of The Art installer from www.whdload.de
6) Un-lha the installer, run the Install file in it
7) Insert the State Of The Art disk when asked
8) Go to the dir where you installed SOTA and click its icon
9) Watch demo
I did all that in like 1 minute and emailed the OP the LZX file but I guess he did not get it. I have the archive if anyone wants it.
10) Get laid due to girlfriend impressed with your geek skills
Working on that! Just got back from a first date. ;)
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Thanks, just got the email. Was busy over the weekend so I didn't check my email.
Will try it when I get home.
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vic20owner wrote:
Thanks, just got the email. Was busy over the weekend so I didn't check my email.
Will try it when I get home.
Well you'd better hurry up it won't be "state of the art" for very much longer..... :-P
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Wow! The difference of the real thing vs. YouTube is quite startling. And easy.
Put Aminet6 cd in, click on SOTA, dms it to a floppy, warm reboot, choose ECS & Nocache, and viola!
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Hmmm... this still isn't working my A1200 with WHDLoad.
I did DMS it to a floppy and it didn't work either. it crashed about 4 seconds in. I did try ECS, but I don't think I selected Nochache.
What type of machine and expansion?
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What are you doing wrong that it isnt working yet? Haha... Can you show us whats in your SOTA directory, DEVS:Kickstarts and make sure the 2 important WHDLoad binaries are in C:? When you ran the SOTA Installer did it report any problems?
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What are you doing wrong that it isnt working yet? Haha... Can you show us whats in your SOTA directory, DEVS:Kickstarts and make sure the 2 important WHDLoad binaries are in C:? When you ran the SOTA Installer did it report any problems?
SOTA:
StateOfTheArt 13,672
Disk.1 901,120
ReadMe 716
StateOfTheArt.Slave 2,268
DEVS:Kickstarts/
kick34005.a500
kick34005.a500.PAT
kick34005.a500.RTB
c:
WHDLoad
WHDLoadCD32
skick
Patcher
RawDIC
DIC
Version of WHDLoad: 16.7.4217 (16.11.2006)
I've tried just about everything. Still no luck.
I even removed my accelerator board and clock board and booted from floppy with ECS and NOCACHE.
No luck. I also tried a degrader. No luck either.
I just added NOAUTOVEC and NOMMU and I made it about 5 or 10 seconds into it and it locked up. Arrrgh!!
:pissed:
Oh wait, I got it!! I rebooted in ECS PAL and tried again. Whoot!
Unfortunately I tried the same steps with FutureWars and no luck :(
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SOTA:
StateOfTheArt 13,672
Disk.1 901,120
ReadMe 716
StateOfTheArt.Slave 2,268
How did you run the installer? Which version of SOTA did you use?
What does your S:whdload.prefs look like?
Where did you get your ROM? Make an image, download, or Cloanto Amiga Forever CD?
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You must have missed the last part where I said I got it working :)
I don't remember which SOTA I used. One of the two from aminet (not the exe).
WHDLOad.prefs has everything commented out. I wasn't even aware of this file. Looks like I can globally disable a lot of the things I am doing in the tooltypes.
The goal now is to get future wars working.
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CDW sells them. Imation is still manufacturing these disks.
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If you had to reboot and use the early boot screen, you didn't get it working. If you get WHDLoad working, ALL of this crap will work for you, with no silly stuff like having to reboot and pick ECS.