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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: persia on August 01, 2007, 02:09:33 PM
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The whole City of Kent naming debacle has me wondering, has Amiga Inc folded? The Seattle Times could not contact Amiga Inc, the website still has the article about the naming rights on it's website
http://www.amiga.com/news/?art=25&PHPSESSID=2c8582d2d58ebd4d6186418c54102c33
It's as if the lights are on but nobody is home. They have made the Amiga name a laughing stock (again), if I had outsourced a dotNet project to them I would be *very* worried right now. I've dealt with companies that outsource to India like Amiga Inc, and believe me the first thing I do after their pitch is hit Google News to find out more about them. If I saw the naming rights disaster there is *no* way they would get my business. I mean is this the way they're going to treat my project? And if I can't their office and got voice mail always? Come on.
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Amiga Inc folded?
Here's hoping.
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@persia
This is the exact way AInc has been run for the last 5 years or so, in case you haven't noticed. Don't expect them to update their website for months.
Voice mail is quite an upgrade to previous years, when in fact "AInc" was just some PO Box...
Also, AInc filed some legal documents (http://www.merlancia.us/amiga-hyperion/?M=A) to court only couple of days ago. So, no, they haven't folded.
BTW, It's quite silly to post links with session id (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Session_ID).
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I do not really care about naming rights of the kent arena. I wish Amiga Inc. would just be easier to deal with (licensing, etc.) for companies that might make a few add ons for our aging computers. We could maybe get a few new items, and maybe they could make a couple bucks for just allowing said companies to support our Hobby.
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If AI has folded I hope they created a local singularity and sucked up Hyperion with them.
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Well, you either subscribe to the view that they are all mad as fruit cakes :insane:
or......
the only rational explanation I can think of is.....
Billy caught Penti on a good day and managed to persuade him that the Kent deal was a good idea.
Then the court case rears up.
Penti either thinks scAmiga will lose the case and/or has just 'gone off' the idea of Kent.
Penti doesn't care about Amiga or Billy the clown so is able to pull out of the Kent deal with absolutely no qualms whatsoever. :-)
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Nah, they're just waiting for the next round on the shell game...
I'm starting to think AInc. is a mafia organization to wash money...
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Just checked out the Amiga website. :lol: what a laugh when i red 'Amiga began as a pioneer in computing hardware. We were first to market ' Who is speaking of 'we where first to'. It's so pathetic there atitude but i think enough has is beings said over them. No the question is where is the Amiga community heading to? Is our only future over say 10 years we all play with UAE and play emulated games for the good time's sake. People are bidding high prices for old PC's wich are compatible with XP because by that time UAE development has stoppend and we need old PC boxes to be able to run old UAE emulators so we can play those emulated Amiga games and demo's. I will be 50 around then. Or we have octed core cpu's wich run the follower of Vista use VMware to to run Good old XP wich runs an UAE emulator hmmm. Well who can tell what the future will bring. The problem is also i dont know the average age of the Amiga.org members but if most of em are from the first hour people who knew the Amiga very well and that 'Amiga feeling' will fade away and there's no new breed to cary the torch.
1 thing wich surprises me the most is why doesn't has the Amiga community a Linux kind of thing going on. Perhaps the answer is that you can't get that real feeling without the actual hardware a pity. Stange is also that the community of the C64 seems to be more alive then the Amiga one, but i can be mistaken here.
Hmm the last question is when is finaly Amiga Inc bankrupt so people with more guts and better marketing sence can take over anyone theres to do a prediction?!/!?!?!?!? Anyone 1?!?!?!?!? :idea:
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We do have a linux kind of thing going on , its called AROS. check it out Here (http://www.aros.org)
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If they have folded, it will mean a rough time as everyone tries to exploit the retrogamers even more.
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I love the comment at the bottom of that press release..
"About Amiga
Amiga, Inc., founded in 1983, is a computer software company, building on their legacy by leading the way in multimedia development and providing developers with hardware-independent technologies for writing and porting applications to new platforms and interactive devices. For almost two decades its award-winning software has been a mainstay for motion picture studios, multimedia creators, and digital entertainment enthusiasts around the world. For more information, visit www.amiga.com."
Which Amiga was founded in 1983? Would that be Commodore-Amiga? Or Amino? Honesty really would be the best policy..
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alexh wrote:
If they have folded, it will mean a rough time as everyone tries to exploit the retrogamers even more.
I'm not really sure how that could be possible ...
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persia wrote:
has Amiga Inc folded?
Didn't that happen in the early 1990s? :crazy:
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persia wrote:
The whole City of Kent naming debacle has me wondering, has Amiga Inc folded? The Seattle Times could not contact Amiga Inc, the website still has the article about the naming rights on it's website
http://www.amiga.com/news/?art=25&PHPSESSID=2c8582d2d58ebd4d6186418c54102c33
It's as if the lights are on but nobody is home. They have made the Amiga name a laughing stock (again), if I had outsourced a dotNet project to them I would be *very* worried right now. I've dealt with companies that outsource to India like Amiga Inc, and believe me the first thing I do after their pitch is hit Google News to find out more about them. If I saw the naming rights disaster there is *no* way they would get my business. I mean is this the way they're going to treat my project? And if I can't their office and got voice mail always? Come on.
Now the article is deleted from their website. ;-)
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has Amiga Inc folded? The Seattle Times could not contact Amiga Inc
Actually the Seattle Times said they did contact Bill..
Amiga's acting president, Bill McEwen, declined to comment Monday.
its just he didnt want to comment.
So there is still someone in the office, he's just hiding under the table :)
Now the article is deleted from their website.
Hehe, class.
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Maybe if they did fold, we might see new Amigas for us hobbyists.
Or maybe an official port of AmigaOS to x86.
Or something that might make a difference.
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Maybe if they did, we might see new Amigas for us hobbyists.
Maybe, if another company bought the IP.. but tbh I wouldnt hold my breath even if A.inc folded.
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In my town we had an automotive dealer who advertised heavily on the local FM station and had a wonderful website with excellent pictures of the vehicles and staff. Kept it up to date,had music,etc.
All very good;...until it was abruptly shut down for selling cars the y didn't have title to! Customers found themselves liable for payments on loan for cars that couldn't be licensed and their previous vehicle gone but not the payments.
There are strange businesses out there.
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mattabat wrote:
Maybe if they did fold, we might see new Amigas for us hobbyists.
Or maybe an official port of AmigaOS to x86.
Or something that might make a difference.
:roflmao:
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Folks,I think that Amiga Forever is all the "official" Amiga OS we're ever going to see.
Cloanto has tweaked it to something between 3.1 and 3.9.
I suppose if you are REAL hard-core you could build your own Amiga hardware minimig style and buy Amiga OS 3.9 for it.I see Amiga OS 3.5 and 3.9 is still available for sale from dealers,or at least their websites show it.
Of course it could be said that anyone who hasn't upgraded to at least 3.1 or better isn't serious.
Now that memory is so cheap and old Motorola processors as well,I wonder if anyone has the expertise and interest to make a processor upgrade board for the old machines ? How many old A2000s still could be easily? jumped up to '040. We are in "Model T" mode here;hobbyists enjoying playing with a piece of technology that was important in the development of the industry, but that has since fallen behind the standards of today.
I doubt the rest of us will ever see Amiga OS 4.0 before"the One who left us here returns for us at last"
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I doubt the rest of us will ever see Amiga OS 4.0 before"the One who left us here returns for us at last"
I thought that OS4 was available, at least in a beta form. I remember seeing info about it early this year,
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I think the only people who can legally have OS4 must own an AmigaONE or one of the PPC upgrade boards,per the license.
That is perhaps a few hundred or few thousand out of the millions of Amigas sold. :rtfm:
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recidivist wrote:
Folks,I think that Amiga Forever is all the "official" Amiga OS we're ever going to see.
Cloanto has tweaked it to something between 3.1 and 3.9.
I suppose if you are REAL hard-core you could build your own Amiga hardware minimig style and buy Amiga OS 3.9 for it.I see Amiga OS 3.5 and 3.9 is still available for sale from dealers,or at least their websites show it.
Of course it could be said that anyone who hasn't upgraded to at least 3.1 or better isn't serious.
Now that memory is so cheap and old Motorola processors as well,I wonder if anyone has the expertise and interest to make a processor upgrade board for the old machines ? How many old A2000s still could be easily? jumped up to '040. We are in "Model T" mode here;hobbyists enjoying playing with a piece of technology that was important in the development of the industry, but that has since fallen behind the standards of today.
I doubt the rest of us will ever see Amiga OS 4.0 before"the One who left us here returns for us at last"
Maybe there should be a high-end "minimig". So we can have something to work with. Ie 68060 + fpga + 64MB sdram or such. One could even take a $120 dvd player and rip out it's contents and replace with a "portable A4000T".
I don't expect anything positive to come from official channels. Only lawsuits or other counter progressive initiatives.
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I want minimig with PAR: so I can play 4 player adapter games.
And I need a hard drive so I can use Deluxe Paint 5.
And I need it to work like my REAL Amiga 500 which REALLY lets me switch back and forth from a NTSC to PAL display in REAL time anytime I want. A REAL Amber chip happily deinterlaces a 50hz or 60hz signal so I don't get what the problem is. A REAL Fat Agnus chip instantly switches to PAL or NTSC by setting the correct bit. If minimig was REALLY hardware compatible then it would work already.
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If you are going to make a new minimig with more RAM then make it use that super cheap 512MB ram that is on sale for $30.00 a piece every week. Regular price $50.00
I need 512MB to do all the things I like doing.
1024MB RAM sticks are widely available. It should allow those to be used also.
I have old 128MB sticks laying around being useless. Anything 128MB or less is lame.
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Lets face it, some one out there just simply don`t give a {bleep} about the Amiga.
The word {bleep}s springs to mind.
Every now and then I get very angry when it comes down to the Amiga and the people who run/used to run it and the shear incompetence that went along with them.
A bunch of chimpanzees would have been better.
If only the Amiga had the right people with the right ideas and backing it all could have been some what different to how it ended up.
:pissed: :pissed:
Hmmmmmmm am I wrong here?
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recidivist wrote:
I think the only people who can legally have OS4 must own an AmigaONE or one of the PPC upgrade boards,per the license.
That is perhaps a few hundred or few thousand out of the millions of Amigas sold. :rtfm:
I think once AI folds, the rights will go to Hyperion, or they should try to exercise that right. then, all we need is hardware - ACube anyone ?
essentially, all we need is AInc to die quickly, or to make me feel bad about saying that by delivering hardware. I know which I'd prefer
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Port AmigaOS to Intel/AMD and hardware will never be pricey again. Parts are as far away as your nearest computer store. No more hundreds of dollars for 15 to 20 year old technology...
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If AI has folded I hope they created a local singularity and sucked up Hyperion with them.
:lol: That made me laugh....a lot