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Title: Well, Monday (the Kent deadline) has come and gone....
Post by: giZmo350 on July 31, 2007, 12:03:59 AM
I wonder what the Kent officials will have to say about Amiga Inc. tomorrow? Anyone have 2.5 million to loan to Bill?  :lol:

(http://www.yadamnfool.com/pics/amiga/amiganoshow.jpg)
Title: Re: Well, Monday (the Kent deadline) has come and gone....
Post by: SilverSurf on July 31, 2007, 12:15:00 AM
 :lol:

(I don't need to say anymore!)
Title: Re: Well, Monday (the Kent deadline) has come and gone....
Post by: Amiduffer on July 31, 2007, 12:15:11 AM
I have a few thousand bad words that I could give him.

:furious:
Title: Re: Well, Monday (the Kent deadline) has come and gone....
Post by: amigakid on July 31, 2007, 12:31:37 AM
HAHA and who actually thought that they would come up with 2.5 million dollars?  Hell they cant even come up with a good idea LOL.  Oh well so much for them, hopefully they will just leave.
Title: Re: Well, Monday (the Kent deadline) has come and gone....
Post by: sdyates on July 31, 2007, 12:44:24 AM
I am truly surprise that Bill would embarrass himself and the company by showcasing how bad Amiga has kept its promises.

I studied business in school and as of yet, I cannot figure out what his strategy is.

*head banging against a brick wall with a lemon for flavour*
Title: Re: Well, Monday (the Kent deadline) has come and gone....
Post by: murple on July 31, 2007, 12:56:22 AM
Somebody who's business plan is based around trying to exploit the name of dead company (which has been zombie-resurrected and re-killed several times over now) doesn't strike me as the world's next Bill Gates or Donald Trump (except perhaps in the annoying ways).
Title: Re: Well, Monday (the Kent deadline) has come and gone....
Post by: Doobrey on July 31, 2007, 01:34:11 AM
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Amiduffer wrote:
I have a few thousand bad words that I could give him.


Save your breath, you only need 2 words :sealed:
Title: Re: Well, Monday (the Kent deadline) has come and gone....
Post by: TheMagicM on July 31, 2007, 03:16:46 AM
LOL.. funny pic
Title: Re: Well, Monday (the Kent deadline) has come and gone....
Post by: Fixer on July 31, 2007, 04:22:28 AM
How much is the entire AI company even worth for that matter, anyway?
Title: Re: Well, Monday (the Kent deadline) has come and gone....
Post by: B00tDisk on July 31, 2007, 04:51:51 AM
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Fixer wrote:
How much is the entire AI company even worth for that matter, anyway?


Probably negative a few hundred thousand dollars once you factor in attorney fees, what they owe people like Bolton Peck, etc.

The one (ONE) thing Hyperion can say it has over Amiga, Inc. is that they're probably worth more financially.  that's it, though.  They're certainly as ...

well I'm not going to go there right now.

Anyway, five gets you ten McEwen will try to stall for time claiming that their current court situation has caused the delay.
Title: Re: Well, Monday (the Kent deadline) has come and gone....
Post by: Tigger on July 31, 2007, 05:16:31 AM
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B00tDisk wrote:
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Fixer wrote:
How much is the entire AI company even worth for that matter, anyway?


Probably negative a few hundred thousand dollars once you factor in attorney fees, what they owe people like Bolton Peck, etc.


Based on stock sales, AI(D) is worth about $93M, why its worth that much, you'll have to ask the people that actually bought into the company in the last couple of years.


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The one (ONE) thing Hyperion can say it has over Amiga, Inc. is that they're probably worth more financially.  that's it, though.  They're certainly as ...

Hyperion has significantly bigger debts then AI(D), and about to get a bunch more when the lawsuits are over, so no Hyperion isnt better off financially.
    -Tig
Title: Re: Well, Monday (the Kent deadline) has come and gone....
Post by: dammy on July 31, 2007, 05:20:41 AM
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The one (ONE) thing Hyperion can say it has over Amiga, Inc. is that they're probably worth more financially. that's it, though. They're certainly as ...


I would say the opposite.  AI does have IP it can show it bought for millions that it owns.  Hyperion is so far indebt, there is no way possible for them to pay their subcontractors since OS4 is now completed.  Hyperion is deep in the red and nothing to pull them out of it.  Nadda.

Dammy
Title: Re: Well, Monday (the Kent deadline) has come and gone....
Post by: Piru on July 31, 2007, 08:48:30 AM
Amiga fails to deliver cash, loses naming rights to Kent arena (http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003813881_kentarena31m.html)

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The city of Kent dumped tech company Amiga as naming-rights sponsor for the city's planned hockey arena after the company failed to deliver a promised down payment Monday.

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By Monday evening, the deal was off, and city officials said they would look for a new sponsor.

"Clearly, there is a disappointment based on what Amiga could have brought to the table," said Kent Mayor Suzette Cooke, who earlier had touted Amiga as a global technology leader that would make Kent a "leading technology hub."

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Amiga's acting president, Bill McEwen, declined to comment Monday.
Title: Re: Well, Monday (the Kent deadline) has come and gone....
Post by: countzero on July 31, 2007, 09:14:27 AM
this is just pathetic ...
Title: Re: Well, Monday (the Kent deadline) has come and gone....
Post by: jj on July 31, 2007, 09:23:10 AM
What is anyone actually supprised by this then?
Title: Re: Well, Monday (the Kent deadline) has come and gone....
Post by: coldfish on July 31, 2007, 09:23:50 AM
The AmigaInc soap opera is in its last season and the writing quality and acting shows it.

What's on the other station?
Title: Re: Well, Monday (the Kent deadline) has come and gone....
Post by: skurk on July 31, 2007, 09:32:29 AM
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JJ wrote:
What is anyone actually supprised by this then?

Not surprised, saddened.

I'm telling you, guys.  Once I win the lottery 10 or 20 times on a row, I'm buying AInc to make sure they get things done right.
Title: Re: Well, Monday (the Kent deadline) has come and gone....
Post by: jimbo100 on July 31, 2007, 10:41:08 AM
 :horse:
Title: Re: Well, Monday (the Kent deadline) has come and gone....
Post by: hooligan on July 31, 2007, 11:13:41 AM
Its not like this came as a surprise.


.. Amiga's acting president, Bill McEwen.. he has similarity to Ronald Reagan.. both actors and presidents ;-)
Title: Re: Well, Monday (the Kent deadline) has come and gone....
Post by: Fransexy_ on July 31, 2007, 11:18:12 AM
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coldfish wrote:
The AmigaInc soap opera is in its last season and the writing quality and acting shows it.

What's on the other station?


It´s time to watch  the Amiga soap opera Spin-offs Aros, Morphos and Minimig ;-)
Title: Re: Well, Monday (the Kent deadline) has come and gone....
Post by: hamtronix on July 31, 2007, 12:09:16 PM
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skurk wrote:
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JJ wrote:
What is anyone actually supprised by this then?

Not surprised, saddened.

I'm telling you, guys.  Once I win the lottery 10 or 20 times on a row, I'm buying AInc to make sure they get things done right.


hopefully you will hit the 2$ jackpot 10 or 20 times so you dont have to come up with the full 40$ yourself.
Title: Re: Well, Monday (the Kent deadline) has come and gone....
Post by: freqmax on July 31, 2007, 04:07:18 PM
Hopefully any new owner of bancrupt Amiga Inc won't go chasing Minimig or any other crap.
Maybe time the community bought it for a bargain? :-)
Title: Re: Well, Monday (the Kent deadline) has come and gone....
Post by: Ilwrath on July 31, 2007, 04:40:21 PM
sdyates:
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I studied business in school and as of yet, I cannot figure out what his strategy is.


Well, here's the thing... The entire strategy is that of misdirection.  As far as I can tell, there IS no strategy for making money from any products.  Yet, logic would dictate that there is a strategy for making money in there somewhere.  I'll leave the speculation at that.

tigger:
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Based on stock sales, AI(D) is worth about $93M, why its worth that much, you'll have to ask the people that actually bought into the company in the last couple of years.


WHA-WHA-WHAT?!?!  Site reference, please.  AFAIK, Amiga is a privately held company, not on any market, and does not have any stock, whatsoever.  A public company would need to report financials, etc...  Being private, AI doesn't fall under these requirements.

dammy:
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AI does have IP it can show it bought for millions that it owns.


Are there any of those patents that haven't already lapsed into public domain?  (anything patented in the US before this date in 1987 would now be entering PD)  As far as I know, the only "clean IP" left would be trademarks and logos, as it's the copyrights that are currently being fought over... ?
Title: Re: Well, Monday (the Kent deadline) has come and gone....
Post by: guru-666 on July 31, 2007, 05:46:21 PM
@sydates
"I am truly surprise that Bill would embarrass himself and the company by showcasing how bad Amiga has kept its promises."

And you have still not figured out MR McEwen's m.o.  dude... shame on you.


Title: Re: Well, Monday (the Kent deadline) has come and gone....
Post by: AJS on July 31, 2007, 10:18:56 PM
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gizmo350 wrote:
I wonder what the Kent officials will have to say about Amiga Inc. tomorrow? Anyone have 2.5 million to loan to Bill?  :lol:

(http://www.yadamnfool.com/pics/amiga/amiganoshow.jpg)


 :-D  Are so that's where the 2.5 million went, Amiga developed invisibility suits instead :-o
Title: Re: Well, Monday (the Kent deadline) has come and gone....
Post by: redfox on August 01, 2007, 03:48:03 AM
@gizmo

That photo and caption said it all. :-D

@all

Thanks for a good laugh guys.

---
redfox
Title: Re: Well, Monday (the Kent deadline) has come and gone....
Post by: murple on August 01, 2007, 05:44:59 AM
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Are there any of those patents that haven't already lapsed into public domain? (anything patented in the US before this date in 1987 would now be entering PD) As far as I know, the only "clean IP" left would be trademarks and logos, as it's the copyrights that are currently being fought over... ?


Are you sure the patent laws expire that soon? In any case, aside from trademarks and logos, I'm guessing they own copyrights on all Amiga branded software made by Commodore, Escom, and anything the other brand usurpers might've sold with the Amiga name. Software copyright falls under the same laws as books and music I think, which means most of us will be dead before its public domain.

I suspect that even if the hardware patents are still protected, at this point they are worthless except if some small cottage industry wanted to sell spare parts to vintage computer hobbyists. So... pretty damn worthless.
Title: Re: Well, Monday (the Kent deadline) has come and gone....
Post by: persia on August 06, 2007, 08:45:42 PM
I don't think Amiga Inc was ever interested in actually naming the stadium any more than they are serious about producing new hardware, face it Amiga Inc is nothing more than an Indian IT Outsourcing Company with dreams of being something more.
Title: Re: Well, Monday (the Kent deadline) has come and gone....
Post by: rawveeda on August 06, 2007, 09:04:48 PM
AI probably just gave up because Nintendo beat them to the punch.  You can go to Safeco Field & order beers & food using your Nintendo DS.