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Title: LAST VOODOO 5 AGP capable Intel mainboard socket?
Post by: Blinx123 on July 28, 2007, 08:01:54 PM: Hi guys,

I'm just building up some nice custom hardware with my own built OS. I would like to use an Intel mainboard and (out of couriosity) a Voodoo 5 5500AGP for some prototyping work. Does anyone of you know the latest Intel socket which used to have AGP 2x/4x with 3.3volts?

And BTW: Before anyone mentions AMD CPUs: I can't use them,as they aren't supported by the OS' Kernel actually.
Title: Re: LAST VOODOO 5 AGP capable Intel mainboard socket?
Post by: Piru on July 28, 2007, 08:14:53 PM: I tried to decypher the question but failed miserably.
Title: Re: LAST VOODOO 5 AGP capable Intel mainboard socket?
Post by: meega on July 28, 2007, 08:58:13 PM: Well, Piru, you did better than I did... and in my PC I've got an Intel mainboard with a 4x AGP slot.
Title: Re: LAST VOODOO 5 AGP capable Intel mainboard socket?
Post by: Homer on July 28, 2007, 09:48:44 PM: [UK Accent]

Ay, its like flogging a dead 'OS :horse:

[/UK Accent] :lol:
Title: Re: LAST VOODOO 5 AGP capable Intel mainboard socket?
Post by: Blinx123 on July 28, 2007, 11:09:47 PM: What's the problem?

Not familiar with my writing? :)

Twas day as I wrote this and actually I'm somehow a kind of nocturnal animal :lol:
Title: Re: LAST VOODOO 5 AGP capable Intel mainboard socket?
Post by: Piru on July 28, 2007, 11:12:42 PM: What does "Intel socket" mean?

You want to know what is the latest CPU socket type that supports AGP at 3.3volts? (That question doesn't make sense: CPU sockets and AGP support are in no way related)
Title: Re: LAST VOODOO 5 AGP capable Intel mainboard socket?
Post by: Blinx123 on July 28, 2007, 11:16:31 PM: Ah,yes. Now I know what you mean. Actually I want to know which was the last Intel socket using AGP 2x. I can't imagine there are socket 775 mainboards out there,that have AGP 2x 3.3v Slots on them so there must be a last generation of sockets/mainboards using them.
Title: Re: LAST VOODOO 5 AGP capable Intel mainboard socket?
Post by: Zac67 on July 28, 2007, 11:20:33 PM: Hmm, probably the last chipset might be the i845D (2nd gen socket 478 boards) - but read (http://support.intel.com/support/chipsets/) yourself.

PS: must probably be i845E - i mean the one supporting DDR RAM
Title: Re: LAST VOODOO 5 AGP capable Intel mainboard socket?
Post by: Blinx123 on July 28, 2007, 11:22:59 PM: Yeah,something at a German hardware forum wrote the same. Thank god I'm familiar with the German language.
Title: Re: LAST VOODOO 5 AGP capable Intel mainboard socket?
Post by: Piru on July 28, 2007, 11:24:29 PM: How about AGP-PCI or AGP-PCIE bridge?
Title: Re: LAST VOODOO 5 AGP capable Intel mainboard socket?
Post by: whabang on July 28, 2007, 11:32:00 PM: I don't know how backwards-compatible AGP 8x slots are, but the Intel 865 chipset support both socket 775 and AGP.

I switched to SiS chipsets for the AGP 8x period, and the 661FX is an excellent chipset with good compatability with older cards, if you're not picky about the manufacturer.
Title: Re: LAST VOODOO 5 AGP capable Intel mainboard socket?
Post by: Blinx123 on July 28, 2007, 11:37:18 PM: No,badly AGP 8x won't work. At worst it can destroy the mainboard in only a few seconds when equipped with a AGP 2x graphicscard.

@Piru

Good idea. But as I know it's hard to get a AGP-PCIe bridge. I have a Geforce 7 Card with a PCIe-AGP bridge and this one is darn expensive and hard to find.
Title: Re: LAST VOODOO 5 AGP capable Intel mainboard socket?
Post by: Blinx123 on July 29, 2007, 12:14:26 AM: Ok,just found a nice list. Pentium 4 mainboards aren't capable of equipping AGP 2x cards properly. There are only some universal AGP slots but as I'm informed these aren't that save anyway. So looks like I'll stick to a small Pentium 3 Mainboard (hopefully there are some which fit into desktop cases like a modified Amiga 1000 Desktop)and rewrite the kernel of my os, as the Pentium 3 isn't capable of SSE2 and thats exactly what the OS will stop from booting in it's previous state.

BTW: If anyone is interested in this,here is the list:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_chipsets
Title: Re: LAST VOODOO 5 AGP capable Intel mainboard socket?
Post by: meega on July 29, 2007, 12:56:14 AM: That's not quite right, as my D845 board with P4 supports AGP 1x/2x/4x BUT at 1.5V - the 3.3V AGP was considered by Intel to be a legacy device, and that was five years ago!

Don't rely on Wiki, Intel do have a website of their own.
Title: Re: LAST VOODOO 5 AGP capable Intel mainboard socket?
Post by: Blinx123 on July 29, 2007, 01:27:54 AM: Yeah,but if it's only at 1,5V that won't make a difference thought. The Voodoo 5 5500 needs (as about 2 third of all AGP 2x cards) an 3.3V AGP 2x slot.
Title: Re: LAST VOODOO 5 AGP capable Intel mainboard socket?
Post by: Blinx123 on July 29, 2007, 03:06:18 AM: Yay,just found this video on youtube and I love it. That was the time Intel truely ruled.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvUIPbSdlTE&mode=user&search=
Title: Re: LAST VOODOO 5 AGP capable Intel mainboard socket?
Post by: whabang on July 29, 2007, 08:35:41 AM: Heh. Just built an 800 MHz PIII system from old spareparts. It's surprisingly fast.
I ran a CPU benchmark on it, and it performs like a 800 MHz single-core Core 2 Duo (expected, since they're based on the same design. :-)
Title: Re: LAST VOODOO 5 AGP capable Intel mainboard socket?
Post by: Zac67 on July 29, 2007, 09:48:22 AM: Quote

whabang wrote:
... and it performs like a 800 MHz single-core Core 2 Duo (expected, since they're based on the same design. :-)

Not really... Core 2 is at least 50% faster per MHz (per core) than Pentium III: larger caches, vastly improved branch prediction, improved SSE/2/3. Depending on code (SSSE3), a Core 2 Solo may be several times (!) faster than a P3.

There may be applications (e.g. very RAM intensive) were the speed does not scale beyond the P3 equivalent, but that's more an exception of the rule.
Title: Re: LAST VOODOO 5 AGP capable Intel mainboard socket?
Post by: CLS2086 on July 29, 2007, 11:51:05 AM: Normaly, motherboard that supported P4 2Ghz 1st generation are good for you.
My advice is to be ready to sacrify a Rage128 (agp1 2x) or Radeon7000VE (agp2 2x), these are cheap ;-)
Title: Re: LAST VOODOO 5 AGP capable Intel mainboard socket?
Post by: Blinx123 on July 29, 2007, 12:36:42 PM: Yeah,but the P4 CPUs are getting a "little bit" to hot for my taste and the deep pipeline architecture of the NetBurst technology won't fit my requirements either. So I'll stick to a nice little Pentium 3 Tualatin512 1,4Ghz.