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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: pyrre on July 11, 2007, 07:30:12 PM
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A while ago it was posted here about new monitors for amiga, that can coop with 15kHz vertical sync.
Kent Modular Electronics (http://www.kme.co.uk/) were one of the producers who were mention.
I have been in contact with them, asking for prices on their products. In particular the 17" LCD desktop monitor.
The answer:
(be prepared)
Pricing for 19LM171A61MP/4 is approx £1575.00
That blew the air of my hopes to get a decent monitor for my amiga. But the search is still on....
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£1575.00?:-o
Oh My Fookin' God!!!!:shocked:
Those guys are nuts? Is this set a 45" plasma monitor? Have a built-in expresso cofee machine with a built-in waitress? :crazy:
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no, they are VERY high grade industrial monitors, designed for use in ships, offshore, airplanes ++++
But not for a desktop amiga life :-(
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Or just get either a monitor with composite in (like my Iiyama AS4636D - but the quality's not great on composite) or else an HDTV which takes both and costs a few hundred...
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hmmm...
intelesting:
sceptre 17" monitor: USD 199 (http://www.sceptre.com/Products/LCD/Specifications/spec_x7gagama.htm)
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@ pyrre
How on earth can they justify that amount of money for that sort of thing?
As I stated in an earlier post if you want some thing for an Amiga then be prepared to get ripped off, then act as if they are doing you a big favour.
Typical greedy b*****d companies.
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Try reading the company policy...
It is not making products intended for amiga use...
* Industrial
* Marine
* Process Control
* Military
* Rail
* Air
* Machine Tools
* Broadcast
* CCTV
* Digital Signage
* and in Public Information Applications.
That is why it is expensive....
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Thats not the point though is it?
Its monitor that can go to 15Khz now tell me some one that the company can fully justify that amount of money?
Just because they add a few names to it like.
Industrial
* Marine
* Process Control
* Military
* Rail
* Air
* Machine Tools
* Broadcast
* CCTV
* Digital Signage
* and in Public Information Applications.
So because its for the above, then they can put that price on it, believing that they will of course pay for it. (and yes they do)
That is pure greed and nothing else.
Its a bit like if I want to buy a hand rail for a bathroom that is 21" long and made of steel with a plastic coating, and 3 screw holes at either end, I shall pay £9.90 for it, BUT if its for a disabled person the EXACT same thing then you pay £21.95 for it.
True facts believe it or not.
Are they not doing the same sort of thing here.
They know damn well they can charge that and get it.
RIP OFF, RIP OFF, RIP OFF.
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That's not the case here though. If it were, then everybody would just buy the cheap versions!
There are many reasons for more expensive TFT monitors, but the largest is that only one type is cheap - which is the mass produced Taiwan screens. However, these aren't suitable for every purpose - for instance the colour balances are often wrong, the viewing angles are poor etc. etc. Nothing your average user would notice, but no good for a professional.
As soon as you go out of the standard ultra-mass produced bracket you're into completely different territory.
Supply and demand. Supply and demand for cheapy monitors is high, so prices are low due to economies of scale.
Supply of expensive monitors suitable for more professional uses is much lower, demand also lower, hence prices are MUCH higher.
Greed doesn't last long in a capitalist society. There's usually another reason for it somewhere.
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Well for the price I would like to see one for its capabilities, compared to a cheapo version.
I would imagine for the price it would be second to none.
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well... no... not really...
And I am not going to defend their policy.
But after looking at their site, i don't really see the issue about taking money for a product that is specific designed and designed to work in almost any condition. On a boat, on a train, in an airplane... +++
If YOU were to make such a product, doing the research needed to make a quality product... That kind of work is not cheap...
All though, the price may be a bit stiff... I agree there...
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Just been thinking about all this quality and monitors stuff.
If you buy a very very good expensive monitor, and your eyes are not that clever then even with glasses then the quality would not make that much difference on the monitor if the person`s eyes cant see as good as, say a person with 20/20 vision.
I need glasses to view my monitor and its pretty good,(well it seems that way) but if I didnt need glasses then would the display be better?
Point being its maybe not so much the quality but the persons eyes to start with. (of course quality is always good)
Like I know a person who baught a 17" Dell and the picture was indeed very good, to ME, but to HIM it was not that good at all.
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It really has nothing to do with image quality. The point is that a higher pricetag is normal for a more rugged industry-spec display. After several trashed TFT TV's in my VJ setup I resorted to buying Bosch CCTV monitors. The consumer spec monitors just weren't up to it.
I should have recognised the problem, since my Philips CM-8833's have also been replaced with the steel cased CCTV versions, which have the same inards, but a more expensive case.
A $200 pricetag is actually quite cheap, if it is REALLY an industry spec display. And the mention of a horizontal frequenty of 15KHz also needs to be confirmed.
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pyrre wrote:
* Industrial
* Marine
* Process Control
* Military
* Rail
* Air
* Machine Tools
* Broadcast
* CCTV
* Digital Signage
* and in Public Information Applications.
sounds like it's mil-spec :-P
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spirantho wrote:
Greed doesn't last long in a capitalist society.
:lol: you might want to rethink that statement :lol:
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If you're looking for a cheaper way of getting your Amiga to display on a modern display, you should look into the XRGB2 upscan converter. I'm not certain that it'll work with all of the Amiga's video modes, but it handles several different 15kHz RGB signals produced by arcade games and game systems.
The XRGB product line is top notch, so it's worth checking out.
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sir_inferno wrote:
sounds like it's mil-spec :-P
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I *KNEW* someone would go there.
Actually, I was taunting him, the other day. I found an ad on Craigslist wanting to trade an A2000 for an XBox. I nearly fell over laughing, when it was him. I made the comment that the 2000 wasn't mil-spec and he just exploded.
Oh, it was *SO* worth it. :-D
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I'll sell you my LCD TV for just £1000.
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moto
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Methuselas wrote:
Actually, I was taunting him, the other day. I found an ad on Craigslist wanting to trade an A2000 for an XBox. I nearly fell over laughing, when it was him. I made the comment that the 2000 wasn't mil-spec and he just exploded.
Oh, it was *SO* worth it. :-D
Post it! Post it! Post it!
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moto
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I am an optometrist. If your glasses are up-to-date and if you do not have any other non-optical ie pathological or genetic condition then you will see it as well as anyone else. I have corrected people to see 6/3 or as you would call it 20/10 with glasses on whereas they were 6/60 ie 20/200 without
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spirantho wrote:
Or just get either a monitor with composite in (like my Iiyama AS4636D - but the quality's not great on composite) or else an HDTV which takes both and costs a few hundred...
The problem with buying composite monitors is that they don't always support PAL scan rates on an NTSC composite input (Chromanence subcarrier has a different signal from a PAL video output). If I want to play Total Chaos on my A1200 NTSC, I'll either have to buy a PAL capable monitor or a scan doubler.
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motorollin wrote:
Post it! Post it! Post it!
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moto
Aww... Sorry, Moto. I deleted them. The nostalgia wore off very quick. :-(
I promise if there's a next time (and I'm sure there will be), I'll post it, just for JoO! :lol:
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The only way we could get a monitor like that is to buy a 1000. Sure we'll be able to get a discount than. And the price is probably based on demand and availability?