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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: cynkronyze on July 06, 2007, 01:17:40 PM
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I was browsing and came across this link ...giving an insight on computing from an almost MAC centric perspective.....thought i might share it with you guys....
heres the Link (http://www.roughlydrafted.com/RD/Home/5AC281BA-912A-415D-85F7-5656C0E76D1C.html)
cynk
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The Amiga ended up as an add on product that could be plugged into a PC or Mac, called the Video Toaster
Eh?!
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moto
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Whoever wrote that article really has no idea. Macs did not pave the way in 16bit graphics, is this a joke ?
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That is Mac centric. At the time, the bus on the Mac was too slow to support the Toaster or really anything like it. So the solution for the obsessive-compulsive Mac freak of the day that would look like a acid trip in a shower with a mirror and brillo pad if they touched anything but a Mac was to make a GUI front end for the Mac and connect it to an A2000/Toaster with a serial cable.
Everyone of my vintage remember the Todd Rundgren bit where he had to have a Mac shirt on when photographed near and Amiga when Amigaworld did the article on his Toaster-generated video?
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and of course, there were many many systems in those days that he doesn't seem to be aware of the existence of
but I guess if it didn't happen in his country it didn't happen :)
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I really hate fanboyism.
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This is clearly an "ID-TEN-T" situation.
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Backward comparability[sic] may actually work to prevent forward progress.
there is rarely enough room in the mass market for entirely new and incompatible platforms.
Ah, the one formula that works in this industry! Ship ostensibly-compatible products that break just enough with each iteration that the end user winds up repurchasing all software and hardware every N years. It's the subscription model with no need for subscriptions.
A small list of notable implementors:
* Apple Macintosh (Classic -> PowerPC -> OS X -> Intel)
* Microsoft Windows (3.x -> 9x / NT -> XP -> Vista)
* Commodore-Amiga (KS/WB 1.x -> KS/WB 2.x and beyond)
Of course, the popularity of ROM switchers demonstrates how CBM failed to herd developers into patching and rereleasing incompatible titles.
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bobamu wrote:
and of course, there were many many systems in those days that he doesn't seem to be aware of the existence of
but I guess if it didn't happen in his country it didn't happen :)
Indeed. There were many countries that the Classic Mac never managed to penetrate in any meaningful way. Apple didn't get a look-in on their traditionally lucrative educational market within the UK. Acorn and later RM owned that.
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uncharted wrote:
Indeed. There were many countries that the Classic Mac never managed to penetrate in any meaningful way.
That would be "all of them". The kool-aid drinking faithful of Cupertinostan would like you to believe that macs hold a significant percentage of the desktop and road-warrior market but the simple fact of the matter is that nine out of ten times (or more) you're going to find a PC, and I don't mean a mac using "boot camp".
ipods and expensive boutique stores do not a market cornering make.
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>* Commodore-Amiga (KS/WB 1.x -> KS/WB 2.x and beyond)
Your assertion is wrong, there are no gratituous incompatibilities in 2.0, in fact Commodore bent over backwards to maintain compatibility with OS-legal applications.
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the guy does not know his left foot from the right one.
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guru-666 wrote:
the guy does not know his left foot from the right one.
I think that maybe the only thing he does know. :-D
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There were many countries that the Classic Mac never managed to penetrate in any meaningful way. Apple didn't get a look-in on their traditionally lucrative educational market within the UK.
Apples dominance of the educational market in the US was impressive. Before the Mac came out, I was taking classes in Fortran and Basic programming in computer labs filled with Apple IIs. I later had a job in mass mailing--also known as junk mail--and one of our clients was Apple and at the start of every school year we would send postcards advertising the latest Macs to just about every School and univeristy in the US. The postage bill was around $50,000 and this was at early 90s postage rates using heavily discounted mass mailing postal rate formulas.
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At the time, DOS users were annoyed to have to unlearn their random commands to adopt the simplified, intuitive commands originated by Apple. Today however, Windows users often complain that Apple uses a Command rather than Control, thinking that Apple originated the change just to be oddball and different!
Notable platform lesson: Successful platforms create start foundations to build upon, enabling growth in new directions for both users and developers.
What the hell is a random command? I suppose you just type something and hope it does what you need it to do at the time you type it? I think this guy is trying to be funny or I seriously need a drink. :pint: :crazy:
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When the Amiga came out in '85, some Mac magazine predicted the Mac's death - the Amiga could do everything a Mac could. But way better. The Mac wasn't even able to multitask until what, MacOS 7? 'Cooperative' multitasking that is. :-P :lol:
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amiga92570 wrote:
What the hell is a random command? I suppose you just type something and hope it does what you need it to do at the time you type it? I think this guy is trying to be funny or I seriously need a drink. :pint: :crazy:
I believe the term is "non sequitur"
:lol:
perhaps the guy confuses consistency of some limited basic function (which by it's nature simply can't cover all functional cases) defining a style of interaction versus companies doing their own thing which of course is a generally good idea(the single style that is), however if you only use certain software then it's always going to be "intuitive" as folk adapt to even the most horrifically arcane and rude setups if they use them on a daily basis but I guess that notion is probably too much for the chap to contemplate, and as a rule most folk use a small set of programs over and over again.. oh my god, how about that...
and the use of ctrl or any other meta keys predates mac anyway, what's he on about? :crazy: oddball and different indeed.. meh
I think it's a case of "This is what I think, I think it, so it's right" fanboyism indeed
a valueless opinion piece seeming to demonstrate a lack of general knowledge on the subject
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When the Amiga came out in '85, some Mac magazine predicted the Mac's death - the Amiga could do everything a Mac could. But way better. The Mac wasn't even able to multitask until what, MacOS 7? 'Cooperative' multitasking that is.
Multitasking in a Mac environment meant that -- on a good day, with a tailwind -- I might be able to complete "multiple" tasks (like, two..) on the same day. Three if you count lunch. I swear I could read a novel in the time it took my Dad's SE30 to do the simplest redraw of its crappy little green screen. Sometimes I could catch a movie while I waited for that damn thing to boot.. Heck, I would not be suprised if that P.O.S. is still booting, 12 years later. Its probably loading extensions by now. :) I mean, come on... The early Macintosh vs. the Early Amiga?? There is simply no comparison..