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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: jj on June 13, 2007, 06:00:40 PM

Title: Round 1 to hyperion I believe
Post by: jj on June 13, 2007, 06:00:40 PM
http://www.merlancia.us/amiga-hyperion/38orderdenyinginjunctionshow_case_doc.pdf
Title: Re: Round 1 to hyperion I believe
Post by: Piru on June 13, 2007, 06:32:32 PM
Agreed, it would have been very bad for Hyperion if this motion would have been granted, but the current situation doesn't look very bright either. The case will take years now, and I somewhat doubt Hyperion has the cash for it (while A Inc appears to have piles of money to spend).
Title: Re: Round 1 to hyperion I believe
Post by: Homer on June 13, 2007, 06:35:01 PM
I can't imagine any long term A-Inc investors being very interested in a long term bun fight. Quite hard to get a good return on their investment  :-?
Title: Re: Round 1 to hyperion I believe
Post by: TheMagicM on June 13, 2007, 07:21:32 PM
I was looking for drama and found it!   woo hoo!!

 :popcorn:  :popcorn:  :popcorn:
Title: Re: Round 1 to hyperion I believe
Post by: guru-666 on June 13, 2007, 07:38:04 PM
HeHeHe
looks like amiga inc claim is beeing questioned quite seriously... they own nothing other than DE.  I'll bet the new money will dry up quickly with law suits like this goign on.
wonder if they can still make that payment to the city of kent in time?
Title: Re: Round 1 to hyperion I believe
Post by: Magic-Merl on June 13, 2007, 07:44:11 PM
A very interesting read.  All very legal but it was clear that Amiga Inc; no Bill McEwen has lied continually to remain in business and that the court saw through the ridiculous amount of lies/irregularities presented by Amiga Inc.

One thing I have not quite understood is if KMOS/Amiga do not own the rights to Amiga OS (as it appears) then who does?

Obviously Hyperion and Eyetech are in the frame here due to Amiga Washington's insolvency but I am still unsure.

Can't be arsed waiting to find out truth be told.  Unless Amiga Inc gives up (which it won't) then whats the point - another 2-4 years of waiting.  Not for me thank you.

PPC & Ubuntu for me - Wheeeeee!!!!
Title: Re: Round 1 to hyperion I believe
Post by: amigadave on June 13, 2007, 07:45:22 PM
I wish they would all just get together with a mediator (not the PCI bridge kind) and work out an acceptable solution for everyone.

The only persons benefiting from all this now are the fraking lawyers.

Aren't they smart enough to figure out a "Win-Win" solution?

I guess not.  :madashell:
Title: Re: Round 1 to hyperion I believe
Post by: bhoggett on June 13, 2007, 07:47:19 PM
Crooks vs Shysters - the most irrelevant contest of the century?

The real crime has been the hoodwinking of the community by the dishonesty of those in both companies, who have done nothing but lie and connive for more than half a decade now.

In the end it doesn't really matter as they're fighting over who owns a carcass.

(I should add that people here are reading too much into this decision. This is not in any way a win for either side. It's just that the court found no justification or need for an injuction. The court clearly states that some crucial issues over dates and allocation of payments are unclear and in dispute, and at no point do they support Hyperion's position as defendant.)
Title: Re: Round 1 to hyperion I believe
Post by: c64_d0c on June 13, 2007, 08:01:38 PM
bill mcewen and his amiga inc is going down fast now.... they will be stuck with crap de and nothing else hahahaha!!
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Title: Re: Round 1 to hyperion I believe
Post by: Loki1 on June 13, 2007, 08:08:36 PM
They don't even have the DE anymore!

Tao Group Kaput! (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/06/13/tao_group_administration/)

Mike
Title: Re: Round 1 to hyperion I believe
Post by: Doobrey on June 13, 2007, 08:10:17 PM
Quote

guru-666 wrote:
looks like amiga inc claim is beeing questioned quite seriously... they own nothing other than DE.


And by sheer coincidence Tao Group went into administration last week (http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/06/13/tao_group_administration/).
 Now what's the betting that 'Cross Atlantic Capital Partners' are somehow linked to Penti Kouri ? :popcorn:
Title: Re: Round 1 to hyperion I believe
Post by: punkyclown on June 13, 2007, 08:10:49 PM
Getting my two cents in everywhere,

I am sorry but I do not see where Ainc has lost anything except the right to injunct Hyperion from selling OS4 to an Amigaone computer builder. The judge stated that the status quo remained. He could not see on the basis of Ainc's argument where they would be finacially harmed by leaving things the way they were and that the points which Ainc has brought to the injuction hearing are obvioulsy in dispute and that only a court case would be able to decide them. The court case will hinge on weather Hyperion can prove that Ainc Washington was insolvent and therefore must turn over the properties to Hyperion and Eyetech. And the judge stated that he did not see where that was proved in Hyperions response to the request for an injuction. The only thing I think is that this will take a lot longer and that is too bad for us.
Title: Re: Round 1 to hyperion I believe
Post by: alenppc on June 14, 2007, 04:30:20 AM
I was trying to finish reading that document but I got lost half way through... What I liked, however, was this quote:

"1 There is apparently a long and complex history between the parties, as well as between the parties and other persons and entities, and not all facts have been made known to the Court."


Yep, you got that right! :lol:

Title: Re: Round 1 to hyperion I believe
Post by: Methuselas on June 14, 2007, 06:59:13 AM
Morons!

I gave them an out. They should have taken it.

Oh well. They dug their grave. Let them both lie in it.
Title: Re: Round 1 to hyperion I believe
Post by: derringer3 on June 14, 2007, 08:32:04 AM
The situation is: Ainc must win to get os4 into their hands.
Hyperion must not to lose, to continue his work.
Recently ainc not win, hyperion not lose, so now hyperion seems the winner.
Title: Re: Round 1 to hyperion I believe
Post by: whabang on June 14, 2007, 08:58:13 AM
Hopefully the last nail in the coffin for the Amiga.
ONce it's dead, we can finally revive it!

Now, where's that FPGA based, A500 compatible ATX motherboard? :-)
Title: Re: Round 1 to hyperion I believe
Post by: bhoggett on June 14, 2007, 09:32:13 AM
Quote

punkyclown wrote:
Getting my two cents in everywhere,

I am sorry but I do not see where Ainc has lost anything except the right to injunct Hyperion from selling OS4 to an Amigaone computer builder. The judge stated that the status quo remained. He could not see on the basis of Ainc's argument where they would be finacially harmed by leaving things the way they were and that the points which Ainc has brought to the injuction hearing are obvioulsy in dispute and that only a court case would be able to decide them. The court case will hinge on weather Hyperion can prove that Ainc Washington was insolvent and therefore must turn over the properties to Hyperion and Eyetech. And the judge stated that he did not see where that was proved in Hyperions response to the request for an injuction. The only thing I think is that this will take a lot longer and that is too bad for us.

That sums it up for me too (except for the last bit, as I think it doesn't make any difference there.). Amiga Inc haven't won, and Hyperion are far from being in the clear. Both companies have acted dishonourably from the start, and both have lots of shenanigans they want to keep hidden. In truth neither company deserves to be in business any more.
Title: Re: Round 1 to hyperion I believe
Post by: coldfish on June 14, 2007, 10:25:08 AM
Its like watching two junkies fighting over an empty wallet.  Starts out entertaining, then after a while you just want to unload a cartridge into each one and put them out of their misery.