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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: jahc on June 22, 2003, 11:19:42 AM
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The more I look at these OS 4.0 screenshots, the more I want to buy an AmigaOne and USE IT!
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i hear ya!!
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Yes i will get that same feeling as i had when i got my A1200.
Will be getting the fastest AmigaOne when Aos4 is out and clockit to the heavens just like my A1200 060/80Mhz.
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Yeah, I got an A1200/040@40Mhz +scan doubler this year.. its a good demo machine. Can't wait to replace it with an AmigaOne though!
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Shouldn't we have some more new screenshots or at least some photos from this week's Tour show by now?
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@Alkemyst
Yes i will get that same feeling as i had when i got my A1200.
That feeling, its been coined as the "Jay Miner Factor" and from what ive heard from people using aos4 now, the Jay Miner Factor is poised to make a big return...
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@ jahc
So why don't you? :-P
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teotwin: PLEASE - out of respect for "the padre" get the name right - It's MINER :-)
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When were the last OS4 screenshots posted :-?
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Mouse wrote:
When were the last OS4 screenshots posted :-?
June 13th - OS4 Screenshots (http://os.amiga.com/os4/OS4GUIPre.php)
Chris
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@Aegis
PLEASE - out of respect for "the padre" get the name right - It's MINER
Wow, i even got it wrong twice in the same paragraph! corrected :-)
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The more I look at these OS 4.0 screenshots..
... the more i want to laugh!
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I understand that Graphics don't make or break and OS, but for marketing to shallow American consumers, and perhaps the rest of the world (I dunno), it IS VERY important. The more I look at these screen shots, the more I think that this looks like perhaps and upgrade we would have expected back in the early 90's...
MorphOS on the other hand is looking quite well, but from what I hear, it does not funtion well, so if we had the funtionality of OS 4 (if it is as good as they claim), and the looks of Morphos, we could have something good started. Until then, I live in doubt.
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MorphOS on the other hand is looking quite well, but from what I hear, it does not funtion well, so if we had the funtionality of OS 4 (if it is as good as they claim), and the looks of Morphos, we could have something good started. Until then, I live in doubt.
Well, the OS 4.0 GUI is not set, you can change it to what you want.. the only thing OS 4.0 couldnt have is MorphOS's icons.
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I know, only time will tell, I am just wondering though why these are the screen shots they have chosen to show off, cause they really look bad.
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>but for marketing to shallow American consumers,
We are not targetting ordinary consumers, American or otherwise.
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We are not targetting ordinary consumers, American or otherwise.
Hehe, get back to work you! You've got an OS to finish!
:roflmao:
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The way I see it, the screenshots are just there to show HOW the OS works, not what it looks like.
As we all know it can be re-skinned, and I doubt Hyperion are going spend much (if any) time on a set of funky skins. Their time is better spent getting the underlying nuts and bolts working. Once OS4.0 is released, I'm sure Aminet will suddenly have a bulging util/skins directory as we all scramble to design the best looking skin we can. ;-)
[On an aside, is it called 'skinning' or are we going with MS-inspired 'themes' ?]
Ugh, monday morning, and I'm having trouble typing logical sentences....
-Jar.
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OK, I'll bite. Why the username change tickly ?
(you'll always be tickly to me...) [Sung to 'more than a woman'] ;-)
-Jar.
In need of coffee, fast.
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because i used to have about 3 different nicks depending on what site i was on (or if i was on IRC), and it was annoying and sometimes confusing, so I decided to use the same one everywhere.
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New Screenshots have been posted.
Click Here (http://os.amiga.com/os4/OS4GUIPre.php?d=130603_shot1.png)
A simple change seems to make a big difference. Notice new gadget designs for the default look.
personally I like the 'bulge' effect but with the square cornered gadgets.
Still not sure about the colour scheme though. Mistake then(OS2) and mistake now.
Does look smarter and there is a peek at the new icons, I guess. Should look good when they are implemented.
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...Will we see a return of the South Park stylee avatar though ? ;-)
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XDelusion wrote:
I understand that Graphics don't make or break and OS, but for marketing to shallow American consumers, and perhaps the rest of the world (I dunno), it IS VERY important.
But since noone except *a fraction* of the most die-hard supporters in this allready small community will even consider to buy the A1 hardware, this is not a problem! They will buy it anyway, no matter the looks!
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As long as they provide with a fully functional MODERN OS, I'm happy, I can really care less what it looks like either, I just figured with the attention of guys at OS news and other such places, you would want things looking as good as you could get them, but if you terget market is not the average consumer (which makes up a large percent of the market I might add) then I guess you can go which ever way you want.
I don't mean any offence though, I am VERY greatful for the work you guys are doing, really I am, but I can not help be worry like hell about the future of my beloved Amiga. Life was fine before Microsloth and generic hardware stole the market (prices are always the key), but now that Microsloth IS the market, it is going to take a lot to get it back, and you are going to need to target as many audiences as you can, not just us geeks, or the strictly Amiga freaks, but the dim witted commen consumer as well. We'll need this in Wal-Mart and all over the entertainment media basically is what it boils down to, And I think there has to be an inexpensive way of reaching that goal without sacrificing quality or the spirit of Amiga. Notice Mac is back...
...but who is buying? Only a select few, but there problem right now is not only software and drivers, but the freaking price.
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They will buy it anyway, no matter the looks
Thats not quite true; I wouldn't buy it if it was fixed to some bright purple scheme or something crazy and you couldn't change it, but since the default look actually looks really nice, AND you can change it if you don't like it, its win-win. :-D
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I have my AmigaOne G3...
Cant wait to run OS4 on the thing.
Dont like Linux :-(
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You haven't tried Windows NT4 PPC then?
:-)
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Staticman wrote:
I have my AmigaOne G3...
Cant wait to run OS4 on the thing.
Dont like Linux :-(
One thing that I wondered about lately: will the AmigaONE users use OS4 at all, after they get used to Linux? Linux is much more decent: it has a better MP3 player than AmigaAMP, better movieplayer than action, a very fine draw package, it has even games, a decent browser, way better GUI system, not to mention MOL...
When they get used to it, and after missing AmigaOS for a long period (till the end of the year at least) will they use OS4 again after they buy it or just try it out, scream, and flee back to Linux?
Apart from those who bought it, but don't use it at all, because they dislike linux...
Just a theory though :-) Theoretically OS4 will feel way faster than Linux (just as MOS does), so it may be just a rhetoric question, but hey, I was just wondering.
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I'll definately use OS4 on my AmigaONE. I hate linux, its horrible. I've always hated the *ix way of doing things, to be honest.
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MorphOS on the other hand is looking quite well, but from what I hear, it does not funtion well,
Not sure where you ever came up with that second part at all. The MorphOS system that I have here is running pretty darn well. Haven't been able to crash it except twice, and those were both my own fault (trying to remember how to operate an Amiga). Other than that, you just have to remember that MorphOS is new.
It may, or may not be a "beta" depending on your point of view, but I REALLY want to liken the experience to when we got AmigaOS 1.1 way back then. If you were around then, you'd remember that 1.1 was a bit "flaky" and some things we later came to expect simply weren't there, but it was still the coolest damned OS we had ever seen. Same with MorphOS. It very much reminds me why I liked the Amiga to begin with.
I can't speak for OS4. I've never seen OS4, and I would not have the classic hardware to run OS4. I can however speak for MorphOS 1.3 and I believe it's a fantastic first step towards the future of the platform.
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xeron wrote:
I'll definately use OS4 on my AmigaONE. I hate linux, its horrible. I've always hated the *ix way of doing things, to be honest.
Hm. You hate Linux, you dislike the way Windows XP and MacOSX looks like... And you still state that
It [OS4] looks infinately preferable to Windows XP or MacOS X's default appearance to me. (and no, thats not hardcore Amiga zealot "anything not amiga is automatically crap" mentality, thats my honest opinion going purely on aesthetics.)
Aren't you a bit biased towards AOS? :-) (Not that it's a problem, as we are all Amiga users :-))
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Warface wrote:
Hm. You hate Linux, you dislike the way Windows XP and MacOSX looks like... And you still state that
Yes, I dislike the default themes of Windows XP and MacOS X.
Aren't you a bit biased towards AOS? :-) (Not that it's a problem, as we are all Amiga users :-))
I am biased in that AmigaOS happens to be my favourite operating system, but even i'll admit that AmigaOS 1.0 to 3.9's default look is shockingly bad.
HOWEVER, I'm *NOT* biased in the "everything not Amiga is crap" way. I quite like BeOS, and QNX. I have a couple of RiscOS machines, and for a non-proper multitasking OS, and given its age, RiscOS is quite nice, if a little weird.
I also don't mind using Windows *THAT MUCH*, but I've never felt the need to buy a windows box. I wouldn't say i LIKE windows, but I like a lot of the software out there FOR windows :-D
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I think the looks of it are secondary. What really matters is if it responds and multitasks like AOS.
The look is not bad, but could be better by the way, I think the grey used is too much.
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Linux... ha ha ha
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Buddy Christ, I wish you lived close to me so I could come over and check out MorphOS, would be nice to live in Germany so I could sneak into H&P and have a look at Amiga OS 4. :)
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Man, these screen shots are starting to grow on even me the more I look at them.. funny . :)
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The more I look at these OS 4.0 screenshots..
the more i want to cry
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"but even i'll admit that AmigaOS 1.0 to 3.9's default look is shockingly bad."
I'm one of those guys that think every AmigaOS up to 3.9 looks great. :)
AmigaOS 1: wow, blue colors, quite nice and big icons. I like it. Easy to see what I'm doing.
AmigaOS 2: Ok, now we're running the grey power here. Still nice and intuitive icons.
AmigaOS 3: Hm, still grey? Allright! I'll just smack this image to the background... aaah, nice and pretty. :)
AmigaOS 3.9: Oooh! Now we're talking! This is looking GRRRReat! (I have themed this look to my win2K computer so every computer I use look Amiga'ish)
But that's just me... ;)
and adding:
AmigaOS 4: Yes! They haven't changed the appearance that much! This is great, this looks good and I can change the appearance if I want to, like um.. you know, into OS3.9 colours. ;p
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XDelusion wrote:
Buddy Christ, I wish you lived close to me so I could come over and check out MorphOS, would be nice to live in Germany so I could sneak into H&P and have a look at Amiga OS 4. :)
Haage & Partner are not developers of OS4 anymore.
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lol...h&P thats like way off..
anyway i like the style , its weird that you guys say morphos in here , its off topic.
anyway the mos look what u soooooo much talk about have some VERY big flaws.
you would know if u had used it!.
os4 .. i am comming:)
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What I like is, it's not overly bogged down with option tabs/icons all over the place. Basic, yet appears quite functional (and I BET response time is faster than 8 seconds + on my 2.26 GHz P4!!!)
And I hope we can have/make BIG program icons, just like in the past! :-)
AmigaOne! Remember, sometimes less is more!