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Title: Picasso96 & CGFX4 at the same time possible?
Post by: Brian on May 23, 2007, 09:24:53 AM
I wonder if Picasso96 and CGFX4 can coexist on the same system partision and be booted simultaneous using 2 different videocards. The reason for wanting to do this is cause I want to run my Voodoo card for most anything but also want to have my CyberVisionPPC installed for best 3D compability.

Is this possible?
Title: Re: Picasso96 & CGFX4 at the same time possible?
Post by: Piru on May 23, 2007, 09:54:38 AM
No
Title: Re: Picasso96 & CGFX4 at the same time possible?
Post by: keropi on May 23, 2007, 09:55:26 AM
I am 99% sure u cannot do that...

btw, u have a mediator-voodoo , right?
Title: Re: Picasso96 & CGFX4 at the same time possible?
Post by: Brian on May 23, 2007, 10:06:43 AM
Mediator Voodoo is correct. What's the reason for these two not being able to coexist on the same system?
Title: Re: Picasso96 & CGFX4 at the same time possible?
Post by: xeron on May 23, 2007, 10:41:53 AM
Because both systems patch the Amiga graphics system, and therefore whichever one is launched last would "win". Thats if it even works at all.
Title: Re: Picasso96 & CGFX4 at the same time possible?
Post by: zipper on May 23, 2007, 10:56:35 AM
I think they are using/patching same functions and so can't work together. But in my system I had both installed, just had to change the monitor driver and reboot (via chipset mode or changing screenmode.prefs also).
Title: Re: Picasso96 & CGFX4 at the same time possible?
Post by: motorollin on May 23, 2007, 11:20:52 AM
As long as they don't share any files which need to be different versions in order for each to function, and as long as you only have EITHER your Voodoo monitor OR your CGV monitor in DEVS:Monitors, then I don't see any reason why it wouldn't work.

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moto
Title: Re: Picasso96 & CGFX4 at the same time possible?
Post by: motorollin on May 23, 2007, 11:25:21 AM
Also, it would be easy to script the change from CGX to P96:

1. Boot up with P96 active and in a P96 screenmode
2. Copy screenmode.prefs to screenmode.prefs.p96
3. Boot up with CGX active and in a CGX screenmode
4. Copy screenmode.prefs to screenmode.prefs.cgx
5. Copy your P96 and CGX monitors to STORAGE:Monitors

Script to switch to P96:

C:Delete DEVS:Monitors/#? ALL
C:Copy STORAGE:Monitors/Voodoo DEVS:Monitors
C:Copy STORAGE:Monitors/Voodoo.info DEVS:Monitors
C:Copy SYS:Prefs/screenmode.prefs.p96 SYS:Prefs/screenmode.prefs

Script to switch to CGX:

C:Delete DEVS:Monitors/#? ALL
C:Copy STORAGE:Monitors/CV64 DEVS:Monitors
C:Copy STORAGE:Monitors/CV64.info DEVS:Monitors
C:Copy SYS:Prefs/screenmode.prefs.cgx SYS:Prefs/screenmode.prefs

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moto
Title: Re: Picasso96 & CGFX4 at the same time possible?
Post by: Piru on May 23, 2007, 11:47:42 AM
@motorollin

You obviously missed the "booted simultaneous" bit.

Your method, while working, requires a reboot.
Title: Re: Picasso96 & CGFX4 at the same time possible?
Post by: motorollin on May 23, 2007, 11:48:39 AM
Oops, yeah that bit didn't make it beyond my cornea.

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moto
Title: Re: Picasso96 & CGFX4 at the same time possible?
Post by: Brian on May 23, 2007, 12:14:42 PM
Ok so CGFX4 and P96 doesn't play nice... that's sad. Starting up computer in different modes might be the only way to take it then but still I'd like to explore other possibilities... so is it possible to get P96 to work with CyberVisionPPC? or get Voodoo (on Mediator) to work with CGFX4?
Title: Re: Picasso96 & CGFX4 at the same time possible?
Post by: Brian on May 23, 2007, 09:18:54 PM
Noone?
Title: Re: Picasso96 & CGFX4 at the same time possible?
Post by: AmigaMance on May 23, 2007, 10:09:57 PM
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so is it possible to get P96 to work with CyberVisionPPC?

 No.
Title: Re: Picasso96 & CGFX4 at the same time possible?
Post by: xeron on May 24, 2007, 12:37:13 PM
There are Picasso96 drivers for Permedia 2 based cards (ie CVPPC) for OS4, so if you have a PPC, thats a future solution.
Title: Re: Picasso96 & CGFX4 at the same time possible?
Post by: Karlos on May 24, 2007, 09:19:40 PM
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xeron wrote:
There are Picasso96 drivers for Permedia 2 based cards (ie CVPPC) for OS4, so if you have a PPC, thats a future solution.


There is a 68K version of this driver that worked in OS3.9. In much earlier versions of OS4 (at least for BPPC), specifically before P96 was ported to PPC, you generally needed to set it up as part of the preperation for installing the beta.

I don't think it was ever released outside of the betatest though.
Title: Re: Picasso96 & CGFX4 at the same time possible?
Post by: Brian on May 25, 2007, 05:43:43 AM
A shimmer of light appears. Anyone have this driver Karlos is talking about then please PM me.
Title: Re: Picasso96 & CGFX4 at the same time possible?
Post by: xeron on May 25, 2007, 09:33:39 AM
@Brian

Nobody is allowed to send you that file (i might have it but i'd have to search through hundreds of old OS4 beta updates, even if I *could* give it to you).

However, if they are feeling super generous, they might let you have a copy if you email Hans-Joerg or Thomas and ask nicely, making sure to specify that you absolutely won't ask for technical support, and promise not to spread it.

(I kinda doubt it, though).

Edit: You have a CSPPC anyway, so once OS4 is actually released for classic, thats your problem solved :)
Title: Re: Picasso96 & CGFX4 at the same time possible?
Post by: Brian on May 25, 2007, 04:52:16 PM
I'd appriciate the effort if you did try to find it xeron... you know... just in case.

Since I'm not going OS4 on this project, at least not yet with all the custom hardware added to the MediatorPCI system, it's not the solusion to my problem.

Please don't try to paint me as some rouge... I actually got hold of an A4000PPC machine with OS4beta on it a few years back but I didn't copy/spread/use it but instead as promised deleted the lot and installed OS3.x on it. I just want to get this to work... somehow... since this driver is now basicly unused work why not let a single individe like me gains something from it, does it hold some secret treasure to an untold world.. think not?

So I again ask if someone can get hold of this CVPPC P96 68K driver I'd appriciate it a Great, GREAT deal.