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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: XDelusion on June 20, 2003, 03:11:02 PM
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Has anyone heard of Kickstart 3.5? I swore I heard of such a thing a short while ago, if it exsists, then what is it exactly?
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Sorry, but there is no such thing as kickstart 3.5
-Paul
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A fake.
Usually these lamers just edit the "3.1" to "3.5" with a hex editor, not even bothering to fix the actual version number in ROM header (40->44 or so).
There is no Kickstart 3.5 ROM. The last one was 3.1 (40.70, which had some problems, so 40.68 was used instead).
AmigaOS 3.5/3.9 "upgrade" the ROM by loading software patches from disk and rebooting the system.
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Slightly incorrect, there was a beta of a 3.2 ROM inside of the Walker prototypes. I don't think anyone has ever made a ROM dump of them tho.
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Hi Nate, do not forget we have the Walker Nate, so next time you are here you can make a ROM dump...:-)
R&B :-)
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bbrv wrote:
Hi Nate, do not forget we have the Walker Nate, so next time you are here you can make a ROM dump...:-)
R&B :-)
Don't let him do that!!! it would make him "unclean"... then if he wanted to do some work on an Open Source AmigaOS clone (the name escapes me) then he couldn't :'(
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True. That Kickstart 3.2 was V42 IIRC (or was it V43?). We saw the Walker running at Amiga & Retro Computing 2002 ;)
However, according to some comments I read somewhere (can't remember where from, sorry), there was absolutely no improvements on it, except the Walker specific parts added to the 2nd 512K rom ($f00000 area, like cd32 and cdtv).
I wouldn't find it surprising if the normal Kickstart ROM was actually 40.68, and only the 2nd chip was Walker specific + custom setpatch to modify the copyright message.
Anyway, I guess we can agree that 3.1 was the final official Kickstart ROM.
Greg Donner's excellent Workbench Nostalgia (http://www.gregdonner.org/workbench/) has some mentions of the Workbench 3.2 (http://www.gregdonner.org/workbench/wb_b32_40.html), although mixed with some 4.0 stuff there.
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I would still not have access to the source code, only a ROM dump I could use in UAE.
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I thought the Kickstart 3.5 rom was got from uae after being patched with the rom update from os3.5.
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I thought the Kickstart 3.5 rom was got from uae after being patched with the rom update from os3.5.
You thought wrong.
The patch is software. The ROM image itself is not modified. So if you save the ROM image after OS 3.5 has load rom update, you get exactly the same 3.1 ROM image as before.
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Hi Nate, do not forget we have the Walker Nate, so next time you are here you can make a ROM dump...:-)
R&B :-)
"Raquel and Bill" = Masters of illegal actions
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@hnl_dk
They own the machine, what is illegal for them to allow access to it for the purposes of creating a backup "dump" of it's ROM? They are not running the machine, so it's ROM can be used for a copy of UAE if given permission by the machines owner, aka Bill Buck.
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"The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion." -- George Washington, Treaty of Tripoli, 1796
I was sure that was the great Benjamin Franklin who said that... :-?
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@bloodline
Nope, it was George Washington.
I'd note, George Washington was excommunicated from the church several times, accused of being a heretic.
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On the Amiga History Guide they claim at the bottom of this page http://amiga.emugaming.com/kickstart35.html that the walker rom wont work in uae.
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Looks more like nobody has tried from reading that page.
But, even if it doesn't work, would be facinating to see the boot screen.
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Indeed it would, let us al know if it works.
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Hmmm.
Try this:
On an Amiga with OS3.9/bb2, boot normally once to let the ROM Update be performed. Then, somehow deactivate your harddrive (I pressed 'S' after a reset to deactivate my csppc scsi controller, should work with all phase 5 axx-boards. I tried deactivating the hd from the early startup menu, but this resulted in a guru).
Voila, you are presented with the 'insert disk' anim.
3.9 ROM 45.057
Copyright (C) 1985-2002
Amiga, Inc.
All Rights Reserved
Still not a real hw kickstart though, but cool.
-Paul
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@BBRV
WOAH! You have the Walker?? :-o
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@Dr_Righteous
Of course he has the Walker. He's always had the Walker.
I kept pestering him for the plans so I could build myself one for my Pegasos. 8)
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Ahh! Commodore Time!
(http://www.zimmers.net/cbmpics/cbm/miscCPUs/cbmtime.gif)
Was it REALLY nearly a decade ago?
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the walker, the hardware everyone wanted but also hated...
i dont see whats so special with this one, but it could have been the machine i was using at this very moment if it had arrived ...
anyway i have seen it running but that was only like with a wb3.0 with no patches at all, you know...that old look from 92 ..
it didnt impress me at all, i dont know if it ever will.
anyway i belived merlancia owned this, but then again maybe merlancia and genesi is in it together?
ohwell time will show (as its bound that someone will correct me on it , right here in this post :)
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downix wrote:
@bloodline
Nope, it was George Washington.
I'd note, George Washington was excommunicated from the church several times, accused of being a heretic.
Really!?!? Now that is cool... :-D