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The "Not Quite Amiga but still computer related category" => Amiga Emulation => Topic started by: AmigaNow on May 21, 2007, 05:10:15 PM

Title: AmiKit and 68060 emu
Post by: AmigaNow on May 21, 2007, 05:10:15 PM

Just for grins I thought I would change the winuae config to 68060. My AmiKit failed to complete the boot.  :-?

I ended up setting it to 68040, which was successful.  :-D

Is there special libs that need to be loaded for this to work with 68060, or is it not possible?


Thanks,

AmigaNow

Title: Re: AmiKit and 68060 emu
Post by: swift240 on May 21, 2007, 05:23:09 PM

Hi, yes you need the 68060.library or you will only get trouble as I did.

But to be honest, some one here told me that the 68040 is better at emulation than the 68060 is.
So I went back to using 68040.

I did not notice any speed increase or any thing else that I could say was a benefit.

Mike.

Title: Re: AmiKit and 68060 emu
Post by: swift240 on May 21, 2007, 05:27:00 PM

Try this link.

http://aminet.net/util/libs/MMULib.lha

Title: Re: AmiKit and 68060 emu
Post by: AmigaNow on May 21, 2007, 05:56:18 PM

Appreciate your help. Will have to try this later tonight. I'm trying to see how well the 68060 emu works. Praise to Toni for WinUAE and for AmiKit!   :bow:


Thanks,

AmigaNow

Title: Re: AmiKit and 68060 emu
Post by: xeron on May 21, 2007, 07:14:58 PM

What difference are you expecting it to make? I can't understand the point of a 68060 option in UAE, myself.

Title: Re: AmiKit and 68060 emu
Post by: AmigaNow on May 21, 2007, 07:28:07 PM

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xeron wrote:
What difference are you expecting it to make? I can't understand the point of a 68060 option in UAE, myself.

In case I come across Amiga software that refuses to run unless I've got a 68060...


AmigaNow

Title: Re: AmiKit and 68060 emu
Post by: drHirudo on May 21, 2007, 07:40:39 PM

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xeron wrote:
What difference are you expecting it to make? I can't understand the point of a 68060 option in UAE, myself.

Coding scene demo intended for real Amiga with 68060.

Title: Re: AmiKit and 68060 emu
Post by: Piru on May 21, 2007, 07:43:26 PM

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In case I come across Amiga software that refuses to run unless I've got a 68060...

Make060 (http://www.aminet.net/search.php?query=Make060)

Title: Re: AmiKit and 68060 emu
Post by: xeron on May 22, 2007, 09:20:08 AM

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drHirudo wrote:
Coding scene demo intended for real Amiga with 68060.

I still don't see how it would help unless it emulated a cycle-exact 50MHz 68060, and I somehow doubt thats the case. I suppose it could help you avoid writing a demo that requires oxypatcher, provided that when you used unimplemented instructions it brings execution speed in UAE down as slow as they are on a real amiga without oxypatcher (does it?).

So, IF the UAE 060 emulation does the things above, I would concede that point, but that is absolutely the only reason I can think of for using it, and its not a particularly compelling argument (if you're a democoder, you can just avoid those instructions by reading up on which ones are missing from the 060 and not using them).

It just seems like a waste of effort to me. In fact, I can't see much point in emulating anything above 68020+FPU, since that combination has all instructions used by Amiga software, and setting "68040" or "68060" in CPU options doesn't magically make the emulation any faster (or shouldn't).

Title: Re: AmiKit and 68060 emu
Post by: pixie on May 22, 2007, 09:32:29 AM

And Demo could run in a real 66Mhz 060 CPU, would it out sync? If hard coded into cpu speed it probably would, but if synced with time probably not