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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: X-ray on May 17, 2007, 10:57:28 PM
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Well, I have a few tests to do with some image plates. One of them is a sharpness test for a film scanner. So I have the opportunity to X-ray some Amiga hardware. Now I am going to let you choose which two of these I X-ray. Bear in mind that I may not get the chance to do any more of these, so choose wisely:
1) [d][color=ff0000]PIV[/color][/d] (Goes to Tigger)
2) DKB3128 (has 4 SIMMS on board).
3) Technosound sampler, Vidi24RT digitizer and Commodore 030 card.
4) Cyberstorm PPC/060 .
5) RF Modulator, A4000T AV module and a few 72 pin SIMMs.
Those are the items that will fit on the plate I am testing. Photos of all these items are already in the photo album, in case you don't know what they are.
Some of the choices involve multiple items because they are small enough to X-ray on one plate together. Note that the PPC card has a non-standard fan held in place by Pratley's putty, which may spoil the appearance of the card on X-ray. I don't know what the radiological density of the putty is.
Okay, now to make it interesting...the first person to vote in this thread will automatically get his/her choice as number 1. I will give that person the X-ray and they can choose whether to put it in the photo album or keep it for themselves. Number 2 I will tally votes and it goes in the album.
Don't say I don't do nothin' for y'all. I cater for the greedy and the curious :-D
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1) PIV
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Okay, Tigger, you get the PIV X-ray. The rest of you can vote for the other choices.
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I loved the ones you've already done.
Gotta be the PPC/060 since you so rarely see them in the real world it'd be interesting to see the insides of them now :-D
Beside you already did the MKII and I wanna see the rest of the "family"!
Andy
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My vote is for the DKB3128
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adz wrote:
I was gonna vote for the DKB3128, but it looks like I'm too late :-(
Nah he says he's gonna tally the votes.
Andy
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Nah he says he's gonna tally the votes.
Andy
So he does.
***Note to self, read it properly next time :-D***
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I vote for whichever one wins. :-D
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Cyberstorm PPC/060
Cause you don't have McEwen's head.
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It`s a pity you can`t do the AGA chips - that would be dead cool.
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Voting for the 060. I love these x-ray pix of hardware you've been doing.
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the csppc!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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The
4) Cyberstorm PPC/060
is definitely the most interesting item. :elvis:
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Becareful X-raying anything with flash and ESPECIALLY EPROMS as they will erase.
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are you saying this to the "Master of xraying"? naaa! he knows whats is doing!
my vote goes to
4) Cyberstorm PPC/060 ... of course :-)
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@ alexh
"...Becareful X-raying anything with flash and ESPECIALLY EPROMS as they will erase..."
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If that was the case, then you wouldn't be able to ship any of those components internationally, as they are all X-rayed. All items sent in the Royal Mail are X-rayed, so second hand components would be erased too. I have yet to see any computer hardware (programmable or not) that can be damaged by X-rays in the diagnostic range (maximum of 150 kilovolts, electromagnetic).
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X-ray wrote:
X-rays in the diagnostic range (maximum of 150 kilovolts, electromagnetic).
ah, as opposed to non-electromagnetic gamma rays? :-D
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I can guarantee you that exposure to X-Rays can erase EPROMS.
UV erasable EPROMS (the ones with the windows in them) are supposed to work by being erased with UV light.
The shorter the wavelength, the quicker they are erased. Also X-Rays will penetrate the stickers that are over the windows whereas UV will not.
Perhaps the fractions of a second that the X-RAYS are on for make no difference... but do you really want to chance it?
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X: Cyberstorm please, probably the most technically advanced expansion ever made for any amiga.
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Do you have a link to the X-rays in the Photo Album?
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@ alexh
Call me a rebel, but I'll risk it ;-)
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An ex-girlfriend emailed me a jpeg of an interesting X-ray picture a couple of years ago. It was of the head of one technician (I am hoping was a female) with the jaws fully open and immediately adjacent to this head was a side view of the hips of another X-ray technician (who was clearly a male).
I think you can figure out what was happening during the taking of that X-ray. Something that Doomy apparently does not know about. :lol:
I think my ex was trying to tell me about something she was missing. ;-)
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I say go for retro
3) Technosound sampler, Vidi24RT digitizer and Commodore 030 card.
I'm sure I saw a cyberstorm x-ray in the photo album already, maybe it was something else.
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@ Lurkist
Check my pictures in the album.
@ Pedro
That was a Cyberstorm MK II, not PPC.
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Bollocks to thin Amiga PCB's.
I vote for Bloodline's sock. Failing that, Karlos' hand. Failing that, X-ray's Gattling gun or whatever that peashooter was he was sitting behind when that infamous picture was taken.
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As Alexh said, take care with X-RAY !
Don't make it to long, and move your cards like they do for the customs. Too long and unmoved exposition can erase your eeprom.
Take care also that X has different meaning :
US : X -> Secret or Strong (XXX bottle)
France : X -> Pornographic classification, or wrong/false ;-)
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So far the Cyberstorm PPC looks like a winner. I'll wait until Monday morning before I tally the votes.
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"...I vote for Bloodline's sock. Failing that, Karlos' hand..."
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Negative on both counts. Firstly Bloodline's sock is a biohazard. Secondly it is probably too dense to X-ray by now. As for Karlos's hand, he already broke his wrist just so that he could get an X-ray of it and post it on Amiga.org :-P
IIRC it had a Burberry-textured scaphoid too.
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@ Frags
"....It`s a pity you can`t do the AGA chips - that would be dead cool...."
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I have an X-ray of my A4000T mobo somewhere. If I can find it I'll put it in the album.
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@ Sir Inferno
"...ah, as opposed to non-electromagnetic gamma rays?..."
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No, as opposed to gamma rays and particle-based radiation, period. Gamma rays are part of the electromagnetic spectrum but they are of a much higher energy than X-rays. And particle based radiation is a whole different animal.
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X-ray wrote:
So far the Cyberstorm PPC looks like a winner. I'll wait until Monday morning before I tally the votes.
even because doesn't have anything that can be damaged on it... and above all, isn't mine! :-D (i'm joking X-ray)
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It's in the photo album :-)
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@ Tigger
Check your PM, there's a little something for you there ;-)
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OK X-ray, perfect! Thanks.
Now remove All the components and xray the PCB only (at different depht)
:-D
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Now that's just f00kin' awesome :bow:
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Thanks, I like it too. It has a certain 'something.'
Now on another note, I have some other test images here (a mouse, a telephone, a folded umbrella, a floppy disk, a pair of scissors and a mobile phone).
If there is any interest, I'll post the floppy and the mouse in the photo album.
Next person to post in this thread gets the image with all the items.
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ME!!! :-D
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You got it, Gizmo, check your PM :-)
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Thanks X-RAY! That's freakin cool! I like the phone cord as you can see all the wires in it all lined up. :-)
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amigadave wrote:
An ex-girlfriend emailed me a jpeg of an interesting X-ray picture a couple of years ago. It was of the head of one technician (I am hoping was a female) with the jaws fully open and immediately adjacent to this head was a side view of the hips of another X-ray technician (who was clearly a male).
I think you can figure out what was happening during the taking of that X-ray. Something that Doomy apparently does not know about. :lol:
I think my ex was trying to tell me about something she was missing. ;-)
The technician with the jaws open was doomy.
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AJCopland wrote:
Now that's just f00kin' awesome :bow:
Not only that, it's Geek to the max.
We are all proud of you X-ray, LOL. :-D
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I have one more pic to give away. The next poster in this thread gets it. I might as well tell you what it is. Can you tell by the thumbnail?
;-)
(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g154/Odd_Job/A4KTMainboardthumb.jpg)
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A4000 motherboard?
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X-ray wrote:
I have one more pic to give away. The next poster in this thread gets it. I might as well tell you what it is. Can you tell by the thumbnail?
;-)
(http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g154/Odd_Job/A4KTMainboardthumb.jpg)
That there is an A2000 mobo.
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A4000T
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and the winner is ... (http://www.amiga.org/gallery/index.php?n=2088=12)
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Thanks for uploading that, Argo.
Roadrunner gets the big picture.
That will be the last of the Amiga X-rays, at least for some time.
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I vote for Bloodline's sock. Failing that, Karlos' hand.
I hope you aren't looking for any connections with that one :roflmao:
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Do these actually count as "amiga items" ?
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Ta da!
(http://avatargraveyard.extropia.co.uk/av/wrist100.jpg)
Unfortunately, no larger image exists. Unless I break into MRI...
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:lol:
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It's possible to post them in high resolution? That stuff could be amazing for amigan-geek art, since wallpapers to posters :)
I want the telephone and others too, curious about how they look. It's sexy to see circuits in X-Ray ;)
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Ja I also like X-rays. I think they are fascinating. The best I ever saw was an X-ray of a snake. Unfortunately I was a student at the time and I couldn't get a copy of it :cry:
If you want the telephone X-ray, you will have to ask Gizmo. It is his now.
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X-ray wrote:
Ja I also like X-rays. I think they are fascinating. The best I ever saw was an X-ray of a snake
Any good? (http://www.qm.qld.gov.au/features/snakes/images/feeding/fd005.jpg)
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moto
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Not bad, Moto. It looks like a constrictor with a small dog or cat in its belly. The one that I saw was better though. It was a very slender bush snake, in an S and it had very intricate little bones. You could see every rib in extraordinary clarity because it was X-rayed on single emulsion film with an anti-halation layer. It was awesome!
Edit: looked at yours again and it could be a common rat snake with his mousey meal. I am not an expert on animal radiography ;)
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X-Ray, maybe you didn't read me fully. I found your X-Ray photos very interesting, specially the Amiga ones.
What about posting hi-res versions? This could be quite amazing for geek art like t-shirts or a giant canvas with an A500/A2000/A4000 x-ray photo of the board ;)
It's just a suggestion, but personally I would love to have those images and sure other geeks and amigans too :)
PS: I asked gizmo about the telephone xray image, waiting his reply :)
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X-Ray those pics are great, love the cyberstorm PPC one!
Mmmm must get x-ray source.
As the xrayed hand is here I figure I will stick my arm in. :-D
(http://www.cdtv.org.uk/breaks.jpg) (http://www.cdtv.org.uk/break.jpg)
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The cyberstorm pic is now my background on the work PC... Mmmm bask in the light
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Ouchie!
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I've got an x-ray of my dog if anyone's interested :-) How do you scan them in? Will a normal scanner do the trick?
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moto
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X-Ray,
Thanks for the PIV picture, I know you said its mine, however it would be perfectly fine for you to share it here with the Amiga.org gang.
-Tig
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Tigger, nice you are generous. Thanks ;)
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Jeez, Oli, what did you do to your arm? It looks like you fell from a height or came off a motorcycle. Did you get some plates for that?
@ Moto
A flatbed scanner with a transparency adapter will work, but you might get Newton rings on the image if the scanner is made mainly for slides that are held in a mount during scanning.
@ Tigger
Okay, I'll submit it. Thanks.
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X-ray: Second one, I passenger a F1 sidecar outfit and on the way up to the start line my dad (the driver) pulsed it and I fell off the back... it was a class act but no one recorded. :(
Had a bit of trouble healing (had to go for a locked cast up around my elbow for ages) but its fine now.
That happened at Elvington air strip (of Top Gear fame) so I ended up at York.. nice place.
Heres the "after" picture if anyone is interested. (http://www.cdtv.org.uk/buggerweb.jpg)
anyhow, More xrays!! :D
an SD Card or something maybe, or a Nes Wii, hehe.
Moto: I didnt have a film scanner so I used the very technical method of holding the film to the monitor and (pressing print screen, no I joke) using a normal camera.
I still have all the films here, so I get to look back and remember. :)
Xray should sell the films on ebay, he would make a killing.. before getting fired.
(We have two ariel photos of the house taken by a police chopper, the guy got busted for that hehe, nice photos though)
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Ok, clearly everyone else in the thread knows where they are- but for those who just jumped on- where are the OLD X-ray pics of Amiga hardware?
Tried the "Images" tab up top.... no dice.
Link anyone?
Cheers
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They're in X-Ray's Gallery (http://www.amiga.org/gallery/index.php?u=2374). Make sure you check all the pages as there are quite a lot.
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moto
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@ x-ray
This might interest you or not probably
Clickety Click (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/6700847.stm)
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Just out of interest what kind of resolution are the original images?
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I need an A4000D board to be X-rayed... Possible ??