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Title: What is the best game like Elite on today's computers please?
Post by: Pyromania on May 16, 2007, 09:36:48 PM
What is the best game like Elite on today's computers please?
I don't care if it is on Mac OS X, Windows XP PS3 etc. We have all of these at DiscreetFX and many more. Even if it is on Solaris, Linux or even Amiga/MorphOS we don't mind. I just want some down time after working 80+ hours a week and I used to love Elite on the Amiga. Thanx in advance
Title: Re: What is the best game like Elite on today's computers please?
Post by: motorollin on May 16, 2007, 10:08:09 PM
www.eve-online.com

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moto
Title: Re: What is the best game like Elite on today's computers please?
Post by: DrValkyer on May 16, 2007, 10:31:29 PM
X3:Reunion
http://www.egosoft.com/games/x3/info_en.php
Title: Re: What is the best game like Elite on today's computers please?
Post by: c64_d0c on May 16, 2007, 10:33:57 PM
i guess your looking for this game then....

X3 - Space/Combat/Trading Sim
http://www.egosoft.com/games/x3/info_en.php



 ;-)
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Title: Re: What is the best game like Elite on today's computers please?
Post by: SHADES on May 17, 2007, 12:18:37 AM
@motorollin
Pitty EVE is online.
I'd love to play it on my home PC by myself without the extra expense of paying for it over and over like EverQuest or EverPay whatever you would like to call it.

another is Infinity http://www.fl-tw.com/Infinity/

A LAN version would be way fun against mates, but this online expense is too much.
Title: Re: What is the best game like Elite on today's computers please?
Post by: Nataline on May 17, 2007, 12:20:03 AM
Vega Strike (http://vegastrike.sourceforge.net/)
Title: Re: What is the best game like Elite on today's computers please?
Post by: mikrucio on May 17, 2007, 05:22:35 AM
def evo.

thats what your after.

the others people mentioned. dont even come close
Title: Re: What is the best game like Elite on today's computers please?
Post by: SHADES on May 17, 2007, 06:20:07 AM
@mikrucio
What's evo?
is that another?? perhaps a non online pay through the nose every month game?
Please? :-D  or a typo for eve :cry:
Title: Re: What is the best game like Elite on today's computers please?
Post by: motorollin on May 17, 2007, 07:35:45 AM
EVO=Eve Online. It is worth paying the monthly charge if you have the time to play it often enough. The Eve universe is huge, there are tens of thousands of players to interact with, and there is so much content. You can have a 2 week free trial to find out if you like it.

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moto
Title: Re: What is the best game like Elite on today's computers please?
Post by: DrBombcrater on May 19, 2007, 03:42:25 AM
I don't think Eve-O is a good choice for someone looking for an Elite-style game. The two are not really in any way similar - Eve is often described as 'counter-strike in space' which is fairly accurate, at least for the player vs player combat element.

These days it's also a deeply flawed game, something that doesn't always become apparent until you've been playing for months.
Title: Re: What is the best game like Elite on today's computers please?
Post by: tomswift on May 19, 2007, 08:38:05 AM
Well it's been out for a while but a least it runs on most modestly equiped systems, Freelancer gets my vote.  Lots of space battles and mining/trading.  Good single player and online available.  Yup gets my vote.
Title: Re: What is the best game like Elite on today's computers please?
Post by: motorollin on May 19, 2007, 10:54:40 AM
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DrBombcrater wrote:
I don't think Eve-O is a good choice for someone looking for an Elite-style game. The two are not really in any way similar

Well it has trading and combat, as does Elite. The engines are vastly different but I don't think the concept is radically different to Elite.

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DrBombcrater wrote:
These days it's also a deeply flawed game, something that doesn't always become apparent until you've been playing for months.

Can you be more specific? I have been playing EON for several months and haven't noticed any "flaws". It can be a bit frustrating to start with when you don't have enough skill points or credits to join a corporation of other players, but this is an incentive to complete the single player missions to improve your character to a level where you can join a corp.

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moto
Title: Re: What is the best game like Elite on today's computers please?
Post by: Zorath on May 19, 2007, 11:23:37 AM
I quite like
Oolite (http://oolite.aegidian.org/) however I have not had time for a while..

Basically its an Elite remake... so if you like Elite you probably would like this one..

its available on Mac(originaly made for mac) and ported to Linux and Windows.

Z.
Title: Re: What is the best game like Elite on today's computers please?
Post by: Tripitaka on May 19, 2007, 01:42:12 PM
Play the others if you like, then play EVO. Then forget the others becuase Eve is by far the best. I'm stunned to see people posting to say it's not like Elite, IMHO it's a natural evolution of the entire Elite concept. I looked long and hard for an Elite style game and EVO gets my vote anyday.
Title: Re: What is the best game like Elite on today's computers please?
Post by: DrBombcrater on May 19, 2007, 02:40:53 PM
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Well it has trading and combat, as does Elite. The engines are vastly different but I don't think the concept is radically different to Elite.

Elite is all about you vs the world. Eve is completely based on team play, and the bigger the team the better.

Apart from trading/manufacturing T1 items and lower classes of player vs computer missions, solo play in Eve is close to impossible.

Some of the bigger classes of ship (ie, dreadnoughts and carriers) can't even move to another solar system without help for another player.

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Can you be more specific? I have been playing EON for several months and haven't noticed any "flaws". It can be a bit frustrating to start with when you don't have enough skill points or credits to join a corporation of other players, but this is an incentive to complete the single player missions to improve your character to a level where you can join a corp.

Like I said, the flaws don't become obvious until you've been playing for a while. It's at corp and alliance level that things are really borked, but some of the more obvious stuff:

- Lag. This is when the server can't cope and the game client stops responding. It's no fun at all when you are warping into combat in a ship you might have saved for months to buy, only for the game to lock up for 30 seconds when you get to the fight. When the game unlocks your ship is dead and you've no idea what happened.

Lag gets worse the more stuff is happening in the one place. In big fights its not unknown for lag to be so bad it takes 5 minutes to even activate a module on your ship. In really big fights (many hundreds of ships) the server node will often just give up and crash - this once happened to me 4 times during a large battle.

- Lack of documentation. CCP often provides little or no information on how things in Eve work. That can lead to a lot of expensive mistakes.

- Corruption. Employees of CCP, Eve's developer, have been found to be giving secret assistance to favoured groups of players.

This message is way too long already, but I'll go into more detail if you want. I've been playing Eve for 4 years now and I'm pretty much convinced the higher levels of the game are so broken that it is dying. The number of people playing supports that view. Until the end of 2006 that number kept rising, now it is slowly going down.
Title: Re: What is the best game like Elite on today's computers please?
Post by: Tripitaka on May 19, 2007, 04:11:39 PM
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DrBombcrater wrote:
Elite is all about you vs the world. Eve is completely based on team play, and the bigger the team the better.

LOL, what could be more about you v world than a MMORPG? Team play is part of life, if this element could have been portrayed in the original Elite I'm sure it would have been.
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Apart from trading/manufacturing T1 items and lower classes of player vs computer missions, solo play in Eve is close to impossible.

So make some friends.
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Some of the bigger classes of ship (ie, dreadnoughts and carriers) can't even move to another solar system without help for another player.

Horses for courses. Players can own many ships.
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Like I said, the flaws don't become obvious until you've been playing for a while. It's at corp and alliance level that things are really borked, but some of the more obvious stuff:

- Lag. This is when the server can't cope and the game client stops responding. It's no fun at all when you are warping into combat in a ship you might have saved for months to buy, only for the game to lock up for 30 seconds when you get to the fight. When the game unlocks your ship is dead and you've no idea what happened.

Didn't you get insurance? If you feel you have been unfairly terminated there is a complaints procedure.
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Lag gets worse the more stuff is happening in the one place. In big fights its not unknown for lag to be so bad it takes 5 minutes to even activate a module on your ship. In really big fights (many hundreds of ships) the server node will often just give up and crash - this once happened to me 4 times during a large battle.

I've never had lag this bad!
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- Lack of documentation. CCP often provides little or no information on how things in Eve work. That can lead to a lot of expensive mistakes.

Jesus man why don't you just ask? Newbie forums are friendly enough. Anyway I thought you wanted "you versus the world", life does not come with a manual, learn from other players.
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- Corruption. Employees of CCP, Eve's developer, have been found to be giving secret assistance to favoured groups of players.

Yup, that's happened I'm sure, probably happens in all MMO's.
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This message is way too long already, but I'll go into more detail if you want. I've been playing Eve for 4 years now and I'm pretty much convinced the higher levels of the game are so broken that it is dying. The number of people playing supports that view. Until the end of 2006 that number kept rising, now it is slowly going down.

It kept you going for four years, It takes that long to find enough faults to put you off? Must have been gripped to pay for that long.
Title: Re: What is the best game like Elite on today's computers please?
Post by: Tripitaka on May 19, 2007, 04:30:49 PM
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Nataline wrote:
Vega Strike (http://vegastrike.sourceforge.net/)


Looks interesting, I'm downloading it now.  :-D