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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: Linchpin on June 18, 2003, 10:28:08 AM
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Just a quick question...
When i get my a1 (note the word "when" in the phrase), can i connect my escom a1200 up to it in order for the a1 to access the custom chips? Or maybe try to get an a4000, i dunoooooo what to do right now.
Kev
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No. There was talk about a northbridge or something similar that would use the A1200's chips when certain programs started to bang hardware, but now it seems that the project has been abandoned. (to my dismay, I was really looking forward for that function. It would create _the_ ultimate Amiga.)
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Can't one create a "simple" PCI-card with an A1200 trapdoor connector that simply map 8MB of PCI-space to the A1200 motherboard? Then one could use the MMU to remap all classic Amiga hardware registers to whatever the PCI-card was assigned.
Just a thought...
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Sureley it would make sence to do something like this, there is all the questions about wether the a1 is going to run classic miggy programs, then this would surley make the goal more achieveable?
I hope :-)
(If only to play monkey island!)
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It's going to run classic software through emulation. I'm intending to use my Catweasel MK3 with the A1 to be able to read Amiga disks and to plug in the old joysticks and stuff. :)
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Cool.. rather have hardware than software tho, just seemed like a good idea thats all. Has anyone in the UK actually got their mits on an a1 yet? Would like to see one in action before i buy it (yes - i am a tightass!) Also off topic, but anyone in wales fancy organsing a monthly / bimonthly amiga user meetup or something? Its time to get the a-community back on the road!
:-( :-) :-D ;-) :-o 8-) :-? :-P :-x
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The whole idea was more trouble than it's worth. If a program really required a physical amiga chipset that UAE can't provide, then the fact the A1200 is plugged into a 600MHz+ PPC machine with 512MiB RAM via a PCI bus, with all of AmigaOS4's bells and whistles.... that same program probably still wont work :-)
If you want to use your old hardware, get a PCI catweasel.
- Paul
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You could purchase one of those A1200-on-a-card which fits in 5 1/4 bay, inside the tower where you put your A1/Peg.
I can not remember the name of the product but it was on the news and sold by italian reseller http://www.soft3.net/
Lio
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Right i see.... i have my a1200 and also i think i got a 2000 and a 500 somewhere, i just want to get shot of my pee cee and have just 1 system that does it all yaknow? Maybe im just asking for the impossible...
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lionstorm wrote:
You could purchase one of those A1200-on-a-card which fits in 5 1/4 bay, inside the tower where you put your A1/Peg.
I can not remember the name of the product but it was on the news and sold by italian reseller http://www.soft3.net/
Lio
This is news to me! There is nothing on that website about this card. I want one. Anyone have more info?
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ya ya more info please! :-)
i
want
a1
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Here is info on the Paxtron Access, not sure if you can get hold of them nor if they have an aga chipset, all it says is it has and amiga chipset and a1200 roms.
The Press Release
http://amiga.emugaming.com/paxpress.html
The Paxtron Access
http://amiga.emugaming.com/access.html
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Damm - cant access that site in work. That sucks, can you post some info here plz anyone that can get into it?
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These Access systems were also on Mick Tinkers website and were being advertised by Access Innovation Ltd.
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@_LinchpiN_
Try this link
http://www.amiga-society.de/ahwbook/access.html
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_LinchpiN_ wrote:
.... Has anyone in the UK actually got their mits on an a1 yet? :-( :-) :-D ;-) :-o 8-) :-? :-P :-x
Yeap
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_LinchpiN_ wrote:
Damm - cant access that site in work. That sucks, can you post some info here plz anyone that can get into it?
So you work for the same company as me then.
They even block us going to AmigaWorld.net.
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@Jurassic Camper - where in the UK Are you?
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YUP same company
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I'm curious which company now!
NTL? Telewest? :-?
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Where do you work cyberus?
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I'm self-employed, so mostly I am working from home.
On the original topic, I was wondering why they decided against the idea of accomodating an a1200 mobo connector. Inconvenience, cost maybe? Or perhaps it was the desire to leave the old hardware firmly behind....?
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I dunno, seems like a DUMB amiga idea to me.
Oh well,,, just another decision that will kill off the miggy even quicker.
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It was because escena admitted defeat on their northbridge design and in the meantime Eyetech learnt about the artica s, which lead to the A1.
Meanwhile escena where supposed to be developing a PCI bridge card that would attach to classic A1200 to allow Classic amiga hardware calls.
The original plans was for a port of exec to ppc and the rest of the os to be in 68K
The bridgecard would be needed to allow OS4 to run on the A1. The chipset dependencies would be removed and OS module to be ported to ppc by OS4.2
However, the bridge card never materialised so in ensence OS4.2 became OS4 aka a shed load more work but a pure PPC, hardware dependencies removed OS.
OS 4 has the frame work built in to map an AGA call, in escence the chipset could be emulated.
People have hinted at building such traps from the UAE source and is deamed quite feasable.
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No, your A1 cannot use the Custom chips on your A1200. Its impossible. The A1 is built on modern hardware and not shackled to the past, the custom chips are too slow and too old for modern software. Most Amiga software benefits from graphics cards, even the old Picasso II beats AGA hands down in speed and colour depth.
You have to use an 'Emulator' such as UAE since it can emulate 1000s of Amiga games successfully.
I have been using Winuae for 3 years and is better than my A1200 ever was. Of course some badly written games sometimes refuse to run, but the majority can.
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I think i will just keep the old miggy a1200 set up for games and older apps, with an ethernet card in it to connect it to my future miggy a1.
looks like the only option.... crap.
heehee ;-)
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You could always plug the composite output of your A1200 into a TV card on your A1. Saves on desk space.
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Good Idea :-)
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There is nothing on that website about this card
Check http://www.soft3.net/pages/usato_3.php
It's in Italian of course...
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Whats that all about? Some accellerator card?
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Check http://www.soft3.net/pages/usato_3.php
It's in Italian of course...
Thanksfully there's a button that says 'English' in the top right corner. English still doesn't make it 100% clear however. What is cool though, is that it fits into a 5.25" bay!
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Those Access 1200's look great! Please santa bring me one!
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Yeah bring me one please!
I suppose i dont really need one since i have a 1200 but...
imagine that!
:-)
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Pity they dont make miggy-1's on those cards..
Impossible.
But nice.
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_LinchpiN_ wrote:
Pity they dont make miggy-1's on those cards..
Impossible.
But nice.
Not quite impossible. The Pegasos is Micro-ATX, and they will be making STB Pegasos boards so I recon they might be able to make one the same size as the Access boards.
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Ah cool! Dunno if i want a pegasOS tho, i just want a proper amiga1 system hee hee or maybe i may just play with my spectrum :-p