Amiga.org
Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Marketplace => Topic started by: McVenco on May 08, 2007, 11:29:12 AM
-
Check out the Q&A on this item! :lol:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150120353177
Still, there is already somebody willing to pay 500 bucks for a nearly stripped A4000/040. I wonder what mine will sell for then.
And apparently he's planning to buy one of the new Amiga's. I sure hope for him that they're Mil Spec. then :roflmao:
And since you are reading this: Hi Doomy! Please make sure you pack this machine okay. You wouldn't want to have another negative feedback now do you? :-D
-
"I do not need a low-quality, poorly designed Amiga 4000 or 1200 computer. I am having a hard time understanding why you guys love these pieces of {bleep}."
That will help it to sell :laughing:
A4000 Mad
-
Photo is not of the actual machine I guess since it's only 1 floppy included in the auction... what to look out for: Is the other floppy drive cover installed? Does it include mouse/keyboard as on the picture? Are all the backplanes installed? Battery was removed.. great.. what about close up picture of the battery area so the buyer can make a fair judgemtn if the jobb is done propperly and no damage is precent?
Since we know how Doomy works and since there's no internal photos available we can assume: mouse/keyboard not included though precent on picture. Floppy cover probably not installed. Small battery damage precent but not so much as it impact the computers performance... YET (or it have started to intermittently impact performance and it's now time to sell this "gem"). It's likely that there are other things missing aswell... he didn't claim it came with a bussboard so he might try hang on to that one since the vanilla machine works fine without.
I'd love to hear how the story ends if there is infact a buyer for this overpriced item.
-
/me sets Mr. T mode
I pity the fool!!!
Good luck to whoever placed that bid :lol: :lol: :lol:
-
I don't understand why Ebay even lets this guy have an account since most if not all of his sales are scams. I mean come on you picture a system with 2 drives, mouse, keyboard and whatever else and leave a vague description of the item. It's not until someone asks what does come with it that he tells someone and to top if off has to put down the very item he is selling plus swear besides. I have one other thing if the computer is a piece of {bleep} why sell it for 499.00 just give it away to one of us guys who love these pieces of {bleep}.
I know Ebay doesn't allow the use of profanity either.
"eBay does not allow the use of profanity or patently vulgar language in a public area of the site. This includes the use of language that is racist, hateful, sexual or obscene in nature.
eBay will permit media titles and descriptions (such as a CD name and track list) that contain profanity on the main site and in Mature Audiences. This profanity is only permitted if the original production company title or description contains the profane terms. All other profanity is prohibited. This exception applies to media items and does not apply to any other items.
Sellers should carefully review the ‘Some Examples’ and ‘Additional Information’ sections below before listing and adhere to all the policies outlined.
Violations of this policy may result in a range of actions, including:
Listing cancellation
Limits on account privileges
Account suspension
Forfeit of eBay fees on cancelled listings
Loss of PowerSeller status"
-
I'm curious, why does this chap think that a4000 & a1200 machines are junk and that the other machines are all better
I'm just bored and I need entertainment :)
-
Retrogeek? More like RetroNumpty :lol:
-
adz wrote:
/me sets Mr. T mode
I pity the fool!!!
Good luck to whoever placed that bid :lol: :lol: :lol:
Bidder Information
Bidder: Bidder 1
Feedback: 1 to 9 • 100% Positive
Registered on eBay: 90 days or less
Item description: Amiga 4000 Computer, Extremely Nice Condition !
Bids on this item: 1
Shill bid by one of doomy's friends on a new account. Doubtful he will get a real bid ontop of this shill bid, but he seems to be fishing for suckers. :roll:
-
Reading the comments on the auction it says "As clearly stated in the auction, one disk drive is included. It is a Chinon 880K drive"... yea right... it says whats included is "a disk drive"... one could get the wrong idea and think it's a standard A4000 HD diskdrive and not some cheapo DD diskdrive he have tossed in instead.
As suspected Mouse and keyboard not included.
"I do not need a low-quality, poorly designed Amiga 4000 or 1200 computer. I am having a hard time understanding why you guys love these pieces of {bleep}.".. lol.. that should help sell this "gem" right away.
-
redrumloa wrote:
Shill bid by one of doomy's friends on a new account. Doubtful he will get a real bid ontop of this shill bid, but he seems to be fishing for suckers. :roll:
I wonder if anyone is interested AT ALL in this item at that price, especially with the comments he left on my questions.... I mean, an A4000 with 880k drive and no keyboard/mouse? Someone must hit me with a really big hammer before I will pay that price (even for an 040 version).
And why does he want to use that keyboard on his A2500? It doesn't fit anyway. The drives don't fit either. A2000 drives are bigger than those slim A4000 ones.
Anyway, I already messaged eBay about the profane language. Don't know if it'll help, but what the heck. He shouldn't be on ebay anyway.
-
Wow, that guy has an attitude! And why does he rant on about his personal life in an ebay auction? And why does he mislead people then get all pi$$y when they ask him questions? That boy ain't put together right... :crazy:
-
Lets start a new poll, what is Doomy's favorite word? Crap or Sh*t? Maybe it has to do with the line of work he is in, Public relations maybe. :lol:
-
Got to laugh at that guys feedback for the last month or so! No one in their right mind should buy anything from someone with that kind of feedback. Unless you believe that it was the other guys fault EVERY TIME!
-
Oh I think you guys are missing the best bit! :-D
Turn your sound up when you view this auction.
"Ford, get the axe..."
Maybe he can get done for breaching copyright :rtfm: , the file name is SGAtlantis.mp3. I've never seen the show, maybe someone can confirm it's the music from it.
-
Heh, didn't even notice that since I've got no sound at work :-)
-
This is one of those long standing discussions in the AMIGA community that will never be settled.
A few simple (historical) facts:
A1000
A2000
A500
A3000
Now, around 1990 the first discussions were being held on what should come next. There was a brilliant design that was to become the A3000+ that would have been *THE* revolution of the day. Not only would it have had the famous DSP chip but would have had advanced graphics, etc... Well, as fate has it, C= scraps it but wants something new so in a VERY reduced form, we arrive at the A4000 (desktop). When compared with the ill-fated A3000+ the A4000(D) is a piece of junk (IMO). A great person to ask about the A3000+ (other than Dave Haynie) is one of our very own AO members... Tigger. He actually got to play with a prototype when he worked at a software company in Nashville. Since the A1200 is merely a simplified A4000, many people consider it in the same catagory.
Is this really fair? Who is to say? The A4000 / 1200 did bring AGA to the community but this chipset was already obsolete as the next generation of video chip was being thought of at C= (with no chance of happening) and other computer makers of the day were going to "standards" like NVIDIA or ATI. Had C= survived, they would have gone the same route. Designing your own video chipset is needless in the present. Back in the 80s and early 90s it was a practical alternative.
In any event it's all history and as such can be debated all day long. All we do know is what was planned vs what was released was not fair or balanced. If any of you want to learn more about the A3000+ (other than asking Tigger to write about his experiences) chech out Amiga History (http://www.amigahistory.co.uk/prototypes/a3000plus.html) or better still, read some of Dave Haynie's developer notes (http://www.thule.no/haynie/research/a3000p/docs/a3000p.pdf) presented at the last DevCon. NOTE - You will need a PDF viewer to read Dave's file.
Regards,
Ltstanfo
-
Why don't we bid him up to a million pounds.. i'll do my side, just need someone else.. then we can leave some nice neg feedback.
-
F**king boring. Stop giving him the attention.
-
NoFastMem wrote:
Stop giving him the attention.
Hes not getting any good or positive attention in this thread.
Makes me wonder if it even runs as if I had a 4000 for sale and had it setup like that I would surly power it up so it would be clear that it is working.
Avoid this seller at all coasts
-
ltstanfo wrote:
This is one of those long standing discussions in the AMIGA community that will never be settled.
A few simple (historical) facts:
A1000
A2000
A500
A3000
Now, around 1990 the first discussions were being held on what should come next. There was a brilliant design that was to become the A3000+ that would have been *THE* revolution of the day. Not only would it have had the famous DSP chip but would have had advanced graphics, etc... Well, as fate has it, C= scraps it but wants something new so in a VERY reduced form, we arrive at the A4000 (desktop). When compared with the ill-fated A3000+ the A4000(D) is a piece of junk (IMO). A great person to ask about the A3000+ (other than Dave Haynie) is one of our very own AO members... Tigger. He actually got to play with a prototype when he worked at a software company in Nashville. Since the A1200 is merely a simplified A4000, many people consider it in the same catagory.
Is this really fair? Who is to say? The A4000 / 1200 did bring AGA to the community but this chipset was already obsolete as the next generation of video chip was being thought of at C= (with no chance of happening) and other computer makers of the day were going to "standards" like NVIDIA or ATI. Had C= survived, they would have gone the same route. Designing your own video chipset is needless in the present. Back in the 80s and early 90s it was a practical alternative.
In any event it's all history and as such can be debated all day long. All we do know is what was planned vs what was released was not fair or balanced. If any of you want to learn more about the A3000+ (other than asking Tigger to write about his experiences) chech out Amiga History (http://www.amigahistory.co.uk/prototypes/a3000plus.html) or better still, read some of Dave Haynie's developer notes (http://www.thule.no/haynie/research/a3000p/docs/a3000p.pdf) presented at the last DevCon. NOTE - You will need a PDF viewer to read Dave's file.
Regards,
Ltstanfo
Nice writeup. AGA apparently worked fine, I wonder if any of the prototypes had a working DSP though.
SoftHut sold an A3000+ maybe 3 years ago... was only about $300 IIRC. Supposedly it booted AGA games no problem, but there was no DSP.
From a feature-set standpoint, the A1200/A4000 were fairly weak. The onboard IDE was pretty atrocious (non-dma), the system pretty much locks up while performing file transfers. They're not so bad with a SCSI add-on, though.
-
-D- wrote:
Nice writeup. AGA apparently worked fine, I wonder if any of the prototypes had a working DSP though.
SoftHut sold an A3000+ maybe 3 years ago... was only about $300 IIRC. Supposedly it booted AGA games no problem, but there was no DSP.
Thank you... we aim to please. :-D
IIRC there was at least one of the fielded prototypes that had a functional DSP but at that point there really wasn't any software (outside of the lab) to use it.
On a more interesting note, Dave Haynie used to have a standing offer that anyone who had an A3000+ motherboard could send it to him and he would rig up the DSP to work (after C= demise). I don't know how many took him up on the deal.
At this point, Tigger's comments might prove useful.
Regards,
Ltstanfo
-
Still can`t get over the fact that he puts a picture of himself on his auctions!?! I`ve honestly never seen that anywhere else, and I use eBay a great deal.
-
lurkist wrote:
Still can`t get over the fact that he puts a picture of himself on his auctions!?! I`ve honestly never seen that anywhere else, and I use eBay a great deal.
And the fact that the picture is quite off-putting. Doesn't really strike as an honest dealer. I think he uses that same picture for everything.
-
@ltstanfo
I like how Jay Miner stated in a panel discussion that if he had to do some things differently, he would have used chunky graphics instead of planar... that would have made the Amiga experience much different, no?
- trilobyte
-
On a more interesting note, Dave Haynie used to have a standing offer that anyone who had an A3000+ motherboard could send it to him and he would rig up the DSP to work (after C= demise). I don't know how many took him up on the deal.
Wow. An AGA A3000 personally fixed by Haynie. That would have been so cool back then. (Still cool today, LOL.)
In a way, I wish I would have jumped on the A3000+ SoftHut had a few years back. Then again, it would probably just sit somewhere, and I can't help but feel a little guilty when I have a bunch of unused stuff laying around.
Plus, more than a few computers set up in your house and you become fairly unmarketable to most women. ;-)
cheers
Damion
-
I never heard Dave Haynie say the A1200 and A4000 was crap. I also cannot believe he can even put himself and Dave in the same sentence.
-
I would like to see the quote where Mr Haynie actually says those exact words...
And he is selling it at that price because "An Amiga 4000 computer in mint or near-mint condition are extremely hard to find"... That may be true, but without the parts that made the A4000 an A4000... That is just not worth $500... no way...
That would be like selling a castrated dog for breading and asking full price for it....
-
@ -D-
Plus, more than a few computers set up in your house and you become fairly unmarketable to most women.
(http://www.yadamnfool.com/pics/rotflmao.gif)
-
I don't think Haynie said it was "crap", but there's a pretty good read on it from an old amiga.org interview. (http://www.amiga.org/modules/sections/index.php?op=viewarticle&artid=15)
I'll quote the relevant section here:
AA was a good solution for what it did, it just wasn’t enough to satisfy most people by that time. But hey, it did get finished, and that’s an achievement in itself.
There’s an A4000 story, which I’ll relate. The story begins in 1991, when Sydnes took over as VP of Engineering. I was working on the _real_ A3000+, the first prototype of which was the first AA machine ever, back when we called it “Pandora”. This machine was using mainly A3000 parts (I planned to revise it to the ‘040 bus once the AA stuff had been proven – custom chip lead times are many times that of gate arrays; we had the in-house gate arrays at the time that be turned over in about a month), though it had the AGA, and an AT&T DSP3210 subsystem. This would have delivered 16-bit audio I/O, software modem, number crunching 5x-10x faster than a 68040, etc. Not too shabby.
Ok, so Sydnes some in, and his first mission is to destroy the appearance that the former administration (Henri Ruben and Jeff Porter) were as organized and far along as they were. So he cancels all products, and turns the A3000+ into just a development system for programmers (Jeff Porter is able to keep the DSP development alive, I’m able to kludge two working DSP systems even with the DSP control logic, in one of the new custom chips, flawed).
Somewhere down the road, Sydnes and Ali, or perhaps their pet chimpanzee for all I know, decide they need a new computer, something more mid-level. Rather than revive the “A1000+”, which was Joe Augenbraun’s project to build an $800 AA-based, 25MHz entry-level machine for April 2002 release, he gets Greg Berlin to build a scaled-down A3000. This is dubbed the A1000jr (Sydnes claim to fame at IBM was that he was the manager in charge of the PCjr, the greatest failure in IBM PC history), and is basically an A3000 with 68EC020, two Zorro II slots, and ECS.
Now, this is ready to go in April. You have to understand Commodore’s working to know what happened here, but basically, C= was run like a cellular company. Each cell did it’s thing, and ran fairly independently of the parent (CIL, Commodore International Limited). This is why every company did marketing differently; different independent marketing companies. So now, to get their product, each marketing company places orders, and C= fills them as best as they can. But guess what absolutely no one ordered. If you said the “A1000jr” (real name as Amiga 2400 or something like that), you win the LBM Effigy, to be burned later. Nope, no one wanted a stripped down A3000 without AA graphics (or SCSI, or flickerfixer, or Zorro III, etc).
So now Sydnes is in a panic. So he calls on Greg again (Greg’s a good guy, one my oldest friends, just not in the best situation then) to start up the next thing, the A4000. Fast. This command came in May, they wanted to ship in September. So Greg takes the A2400 design, drops in the AA stuff from my A3000+ design, gets me in to fix it to run Zorro III, etc. Sydnes mandates IDE (ATA-1, I think is all you get), so that’s done, poorly, with a PAL (you couldn’t do good ATA in a cheap programmable part back then; you can today), so goodbye SCSI. Anyway, no joy, but there’s an A4000.
The ‘040 board, too, was a left over. Scott Schaeffer was our ‘040 expert (I had been the CPU guy, but had too much work to do, and we wanted the new CPUs out WITH the new system, not a year later), and had actually built an ‘040 board, complete with 128K of L2 cache, which was behind the scenes at the A3000 launch, but never shown. Tragically, it was deemed too expensive. Scott, Greg, Hedley, the cleaning woman, myself, my cat “Iggy”, etc. all new this new machine had to be ‘040 based. They wouldn’t go for doing it right. But it happens that Greg and Scott had realized that during the A1000jr project, too, and so Scott made “the cheapest possible ‘040 board known to man”, price being the only big issue. Guess what powered the A4000?
So me, no, I’m no A4000 fan. The A4000T was improved, if you can find one. It used a fairly standard PC case, something we really wanted – no more custom jobs. It had two video slots, it had the NCR53C710 SCSI from my A4091 board, I tweaked the audio a bit on it for quality and some good features (headphone jack, etc). But alas, not many were made.
Basically, a couple of arrogant dorks canceled projects that would likely have sold pretty well, in favor of inferior products. I'd be bitter too, especially knowing what could have been.
-
gizmo350 wrote:
@ -D-
Plus, more than a few computers set up in your house and you become fairly unmarketable to most women.
(http://www.yadamnfool.com/pics/rotflmao.gif)
LOL, isn't it true though! :-)
-
Is there some A4000T pictures of the motherboard in gallery?
I have seen the case, a lot. and it was my wet dream in the 90s... If i ever come by a 4000T i will take a loan to buy it... just to get one....
(and i do belive I am not the only one)
-
@pyrre
here is one (http://www.amiga.org/gallery/index.php?n=1900=12)
I got a a4000T for free for helping out a school that still uses amigas for video production (her i Kristiansand). Now they use a 4000D instead (i got a new psu for them (matx) that was mutch quieter, so they prefer that one).
-
Doomy:
"No, I am not pulling a "bait and switch". The auction clearly states Amiga 4000 computer. The auction does not state Amiga 4000 computer system or Amiga 4000 computer with keyboard and mouse. The auction also clearly states what is included. I have not done anything wrong. YOU need to learn how to understand what you read."
This guy is an a$$. lol.
For someone who knows so much about Haynie, you'd think he could at least spell the guys name right.
-
Ross1 wrote:
Avoid this seller at all coasts
Even Dorset?
--
moto
-
Well, you can't feel too bad for the person that bids on it. If you look at Doomy's feed back, on the VERY first page he has at least 4 negatives and one them EVEN SAYS:
"Grouchy seller. Didn't work with my Amiga 4000, which he calls a sh-ty computer"
Guess that's why you should read feed back before you spend $500.
At least Doomy's auction's are acurate. It will be just like he said. You will get an A4000, 2 megs of chip ram, 16 megs of fast ram, and a CD-Rom drive.
You won't get, as they are not listed in the auction, the 040 card, PSU, hard drive, the battery he took off the mother board, kickstart roms which he has probably removed, keyboard, mouse, power cord, OS disks, manuals, etc. That's how Doomy works.
Also, I see now that this is on the auction:
Q: Hello, I used the 'contact member' to contact you, I read your answer to a bidders question in which you say the A1200&4000 are inferior to earlier model...
A: Dave Hanie and myself stand by what we have both stated about the Amiga 1200 and 4000, they are both pieces of low quality, poorly designed crap that Commodore...more
:roflmao:
-
Why don't eBay block Cheaters like this ? ... Look at his text. He violats, soooo many laws with that... Maybe we should sue him - Or even better ! Let Bill McEwen sue him, for talking {bleep} about the A4000 *LOL*LOL* :crazy:
-
His reputation and foul mouth are his two biggest enemies. He talks so gross to people who make him mad. And like a previous poster stated, it's always the other person's fault with Doomy. Either he is full of beans or everyone in the world is out to get him.
-
As A2000 got socketed chips, it's more easily reparable. But it's not expandable as A4000...
Who can trust a guy that put all his valuable floppy on the shelf close to a CRT with its vicious magnetic field ?
:-?
-
:laughing:
One of the questions he answered just recently "I personally have seen an A4000 go for $1000 on ebay"
I have been watching ebay for years and have never seen an stock A4000 go for that much let alone $500. I bought my second mint condition A4000D with a Video toaster flyer for $150 so thats just c**p.
I can see a well loaded 4000T going for that much but not a desktop!
With him nothing is guaranteed to be what you see.
-
I wonder if he will post and answer my questions?
**************************************************
Hi, you seem to know a lot about Amiga computers. Is it true that Ali was a Lizard Man from Atlantis who deliberately sabotaged development of the Amiga 3000+ and substituted it with the inferior Amiga 4000? I've heard rumours that this was part of the reptilian conspiracy to undermine Commodore from the inside and ensure the dominance of Microsoft - as Bill Gates is a well known reptilian shapeshifter. Also, does the A4000 come with a working power supply and daughterboard? Is it really true that all Rev B motherboards came with 68040 CPUs as you state in your answers, and if so, how come every A4000/030 I have owned had a Rev B motherboard - including the one I picked up brand new from C= Australia just before they went bust? Another Lizard Man con job?
-
Hi, you seem to know a lot about Amiga computers. Is it true that Ali was a Lizard Man from Atlantis who deliberately sabotaged development of the Amiga 3000+ and substituted it with the inferior Amiga 4000? I've heard rumours that this was part of the reptilian conspiracy to undermine Commodore from the inside and ensure the dominance of Microsoft - as Bill Gates is a well known reptilian shapeshifter. Also, does the A4000 come with a working power supply and daughterboard? Is it really true that all Rev B motherboards came with 68040 CPUs as you state in your answers, and if so, how come every A4000/030 I have owned had a Rev B motherboard - including the one I picked up brand new from C= Australia just before they went bust? Another Lizard Man con job?
:-o
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA :lol:
...Ok i'm done now ;\
-
Since I am the last one to have left negative feedback to the guy we're talking about, I think I am allowed to say something here.
First, I noticed no a single person placed a single bid on the A3000 ZIP RAM chips he was selling prior to the A4000.
Also, it is easy to notice that Mr. Bidder 1 who was unfortunate enough to place a bid on his A4000 has been a member only for a very short amount of time.
I think Mr. Doommaster is having a very hard time selling anything at all these days.
Pity on the poor slob who placed a bid on his junk...
-
"...gas for my vehicle, eBay fees, my time to stand in the long lines at the Post Office to personally ship your package out, there will be a small handling / packaging fee added to the actual shipping cost. The handling / packaging fee varies according to the size and weight of the item, but is usually never more then $3.00 to $20.00. "
Ohhhhkaaayyy so we've established that he can just add $20 on the end of the auction for "handling" in addition to the shipping. Including gas, and his hourly salary while standing in line.
Nice :)
-
Hi, well my 2 cents, just started selling items on Ebay, no Amiga stuff tho,....they are my real computers, after all... :)
BUT, I have had 2 listings cancelled, and another listing I was bidding on was cancelled, but not until I had sent payment for it....
SO, whay don't we all 'report this item'? The seller uses profanity, and is not accurately describing the item, correct?
Maybe use EBay's %*&%#$ policies to our own good :)
Really, how can this person can deal on EBay for this long....
grumble...mutter....
:-?
-
LOLz, if Doomy can answer my questions, I'll buy his stupid A4000! (just kidding) :
I have a few questions for you:
1. One day, a person went to horse racing area, Instead of counting the number of human and horses, he instead counted 74 heads and 196 legs. Yet he knew the number of humans and horses there. How did he do it, and how many humans and horses are there?
2. If 1/2x +1/2(1/2x + 1/2(1/2x +1/2(1/2x + ... = y,
then x = ?
3. What place in this world can have their temperatures Fahrenheit and Celsius equal?
4. You have two block of clay in cube form and the edges are 10 cm. How many spheres with a radius of 5 cm can you make with that amount of clay?
5. Every month, a girl gets allowance. Assume last year she had no money, and kept it up to now. Then she spends 1/2 of her money on clothes, then 1/3 of the remaining money on games, and then 1/4 of the remaining money on toys. After she bought all of that, she had $7777 left. Assuming she only gets money by allowance, how much money does she earn every month?
6. If ax*x + bx +c = 0,
then what is x?
Thx!
-
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Best! Auction! Ever! :-D
EDIT:
When questions about shipping are asked, he says "read the entire auction". Somewhere in between the whole load of horsecr*p he writes is stated "Questions about shipping will not be answered."
So, shipping costs outside USA/Canada are supposed to be a surprise? For all I know he could be charging another $500 for shipping this thing to Europe, and he can simply get away with it.
There, another reason to not trust this fraudulous excuse for a human being.
Besides, an American citizen named Hans. No wonder he has issues :lol:
-
Oldsmobile_Mike wrote:
LOLz, if Doomy can answer my questions, I'll buy his stupid A4000! (just kidding) :
I have a few questions for you:
1. One day, a person went to horse racing area, Instead of counting the number of human and horses, he instead counted 74 heads and 196 legs. Yet he knew the number of humans and horses there. How did he do it, and how many humans and horses are there?
2. If 1/2x +1/2(1/2x + 1/2(1/2x +1/2(1/2x + ... = y,
then x = ?
3. What place in this world can have their temperatures Fahrenheit and Celsius equal?
4. You have two block of clay in cube form and the edges are 10 cm. How many spheres with a radius of 5 cm can you make with that amount of clay?
5. Every month, a girl gets allowance. Assume last year she had no money, and kept it up to now. Then she spends 1/2 of her money on clothes, then 1/3 of the remaining money on games, and then 1/4 of the remaining money on toys. After she bought all of that, she had $7777 left. Assuming she only gets money by allowance, how much money does she earn every month?
6. If ax*x + bx +c = 0,
then what is x?
Thx!
Well, just for the fun of it I found the answers to all except #2... can I tell the answers ? :-D
-
#2 is easy.
x = 42
-
amesie2 wrote:
I have one other thing if the computer is a piece of {bleep} why sell it for 499.00 just give it away to one of us guys who love these pieces of {bleep}.
You might think that your beatle is {bleep} and still selling it for the market price...
-
"NOTE: Shipping on this Amiga computer is only $40 (US and Canada only). ROW pays actual shipping cost."
... but then ....
"A large heavy cardboard shipping box costs about $5.95. The foam costs about $7.99 per sheet (1 to 2 sheets needed to completely surround and protect the computer). The handling charge is only $5.00. So, $20 plus shipping should cover everything."
$20 handling + $40 shipping.
Stated clearly in the auction :crazy:
-
gizmo350 wrote:
Wow, that guy has an attitude! And why does he rant on about his personal life in an ebay auction? And why does he mislead people then get all pi$$y when they ask him questions? That boy ain't put together right... :crazy:
He obviously doesn't take his lithium as prescribed.
-
You won't get, as they are not listed in the auction, the 040 card, PSU, hard drive, the battery he took off the mother board, kickstart roms which he has probably removed, keyboard, mouse, power cord, OS disks, manuals, etc
I asked the guy if these parts were to follow the computer, and if the computer would start when connected to power...
But... no answer... would that be a shock?
-
All payment methods what are accepted are clearly a sign to avoid at all costs and as for
Buyers outside the US will have to mail cash
that is even worse.
-
I asked the guy if these parts were to follow the computer, and if the computer would start when connected to power... But... no answer... would that be a shock?
I don't know if this was you but someone asked him to be more specific about the machine on the auction.
Here's what he wrote"
The motherboard revision is B. All revision B motherboards include Commodore's 68040, 25 MHz board. The battery was not replaced because an Amiga 4000 does not need it. The hard drive is the standard 120 MB drive. The two drives shown in the picture are the high quality Chinon high-density disk drives. I am keeping them. I plan to install them in one of my Amiga 2500 computers. As clearly stated in the auction, one disk drive is included. It is a Chinon 880K drive. DF1 drive faceplate will be included. The Kickstart is version 3.0. Workbench 3.1 is installed on the hard drive. The Amiga 4000 keyboard and mouse, both in like new condition, are not included. I plan to use them with one of my Amiga 2500 computers. I never bothered to upgrade this Amiga 4000 because the Amiga 2000 computers are much nicer, higher quality computers. So, I upgraded them with KS 3.1, WB 3.9, video board, FF/SD board, 2-meg chip ram, 68040 / 060 board, ethernet board, lots of fast memory, and the best of the best Amiga software. I plan to buy one of the new Amigas for running Amiga OS 4.0, so I do not need a low-quality, poorly designed Amiga 4000 or 1200 computer. I am having a hard time understanding why you guys love these pieces of {bleep}. Even Dave Hanie said that the Amiga 4000 and 1200 are pieces of crap and that Commodore should never have released them. Anyway, I hope this answers your questions.
-So he say's it's a revision B mother board, but he STILL didn't say this one had an 040, just stated that all revision B motherboards came with 040s, so this still needs to be clarified. Classic Doomy trick (as you'll see more below with the keyboard/mouse)
-The battery was indeed not replaced.
-The 2 drives in the picture?? Yeah, No, you don't get those. You get a non-standared double density drive that never shipped with an A4000, and also it will be missing the face plate for df1. Nice.
-No Workbench disks, but he did install a "copy" of it on the HD though. I hope AI here's about this!
-No keyboard or mouse, he's keeping these for himself because they're in such great condition
You can see how he tries to trick people with lines like this:
The Amiga 4000 keyboard and mouse, both in like new condition, are not included.
He's not lying, but he hopes people just are skimming and see what they want, ie: keyboard and mouse are in like new condition, which they are, they're just aren't included.
The guy is very shady.
-
I wrote to him with this:
Q: If the Amiga 4000 is so {bleep}, why do you have one? May-08-07
A: Because it was good for bragging rights (oh, look at me, I've got an Amiga 4000). But, as far as the Amiga 4000 being a usable computer, it was not. I actually got more use out of my Amiga 2000 computers. I mean just look at the Amiga 4000, it does not have SCSI or a built-in flicker fixer / scan doubler and the AGA chipset is not all its cracked up to be. Also, the Amiga 4000's motherboard is the lower quality surface mount technology. The Amiga 2000 and 3000 computer,s motherboards are the higher quality thru-hole technology. Let us face the facts, the Amiga 4000 and 1200 are poorly designed, low quality pieces of crap. Dave Hanie was right when he said that Commodore should have never produced and released them.
Q: You are Mad.
He is bonkers isn't he ?... or is it me?
-
I especially like this part :
Doommaster wrote:
Amiga 4000's motherboard is the lower quality surface mount technology. The Amiga 2000 and 3000 computer,s motherboards are the higher quality thru-hole technology.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :crazy: :roflmao: :devildance:
-
YOU knoe yous he is a prick...duh.. however contzero... he is also right about the fact thet the 1200 and 4000 are much lower build quality than the 2000... all you need to do it take them apart you can feel the differnece.
However ifcourse the 4000 is a better box as it has better technology.... dommy is a trouble insane troll. but he is not as wrong as you would like him to be... sorry....
anyway back when lot's of people used amiga this was a well know fact.....
-
"Also, the Amiga 4000's motherboard is the lower quality surface mount technology. The Amiga 2000 and 3000 computer,s motherboards are the higher quality thru-hole technology"
:pint: :-? :crazy:
-
@guru
Bah ! The way the case is built totally irrelevant, the functionality is all it counts. The A2000 is condemned to Zorro II bus, which is a real bummer as it's 16 bit and slow. It's good for old school gaming, but pointless to upgrade to a gfx board/ethernet. IT crawls (I have a A2000 with GVP040(33MHz)/32mb ram/ ECS spectrum/ X-surf, so I know what I'm talking about). My A3000 on the other hand, flies when compared to the A2000 with a warp engine(28MHz) and picassoII board.
-
yes yes the 2000 is slower....but the quality is not just the case it the mobu and the surface mounts just like dommy claims.
However, we both know that the 4000 is more fun. but you know you can put piccasso IV and phase5 060 in the 2000 making it a fantastic machine... don't you wish you had one like that?
I would alos like to note that it obvious that the doom master suffers from some kind of mental illness, do we realy need to feed his ego or worsen the condition y talkign about his ever auction? Just ignore them.
-
guru-666 wrote:
but you know you can put piccasso IV and phase5 060 in the 2000 making it a fantastic machine... don't you wish you had one like that?
It would still be slow ... The only way to make a snappy A2000 is to have a gfx board in a 32 bit space instead of zorro 2 space. GVPs G-Force cards have a special expansion for a special kind of spectrum card. It would be snappy and fast cause it will be on its 32 bit bus.
I bet my A3000 with warp engine/picasso2 would feel snappier than the A2000 picassoIV/060 combo.
-
"Also, the Amiga 4000's motherboard is the lower quality surface mount technology. The Amiga 2000 and 3000 computer,s motherboards are the higher quality thru-hole technology"
He is kidding right :lol:
Neither of the two mentioned make any difference as to how they function and in no way is one better then the other.
My guess is that the one bider that had placed a bid is just him bidding for himself to make it look like he has interest. The only interest in this A4000 is negative from what I can see given all the questions he is getting and this thread as well as many many others that have been posted here.
The A4000 and 1200 were in many ways superior to past Amigas AGA for one thing. Yes I agree that not having SCSI was a small issue but SCSI add on controllers were and still are easy to get. The A4000T was by far the best Amiga but fairly limited in supply. I agree that the A3000(t) construction was very solid but who cares as unless your going to be banging it around or throwing it out a window what does that matter.
My 2 A4000d's are still running today one of them I have had since 1995.
-
Seems the auction has been pulled - or did I miss the conclusion?
-
Then I guess, according to the previous posts the A3000 is the best of both worlds.
It supports Zorro III, and 68060/PPC accelerators including the CS Mk III yet it uses "higher quality" through hole technology.
Lack of AGA funtionality can always be compensated by having a Gfx card like the CV64/3D.
Guess what Amiga I have? :-D
-
Many people DO think the a3000 is the best. I would say it's a GREAT box and maybe the best amiga made.... man I wish they would have made the 3000+ rather than the 4000. My only beef with the 3000D is the case. It great looking but it a mess to work on! YOu have to takethe whole damn thing apart to spat things out! seriously bad internal design!
I have a 3000, but I perfer my 4000T....
-
guru-666 wrote:
However, we both know that the 4000 is more fun. but you know you can put piccasso IV and phase5 060 in the 2000 making it a fantastic machine... don't you wish you had one like that?
I have a Blizzard 2060 and have put my Picasso IV in it. I put the PIV back into my CS-MKIII 4000D, and a Spectrum 28/24 in the 2000. The performance just isn't there.
I think we've speculated in another thread before about what it would take to expand the 2000 in Zorro III or PCI fashion. In the end doing so would require a realization of what seem to be several pipe-dreams, and would just end in what should be better Amiga hardware.
There are several accelerators with local 32-bit buses -- off the top of my head I can think of the GVP 040 Combo (2000) and the CS-MKIII (some kind of PCI,) then there's video cards with PCI buses (P-IV, maybe others,) but none of them truly capitalized upon.
The main exception in my mind would be the bus in the CS-MKIII, to which you can connect a video card or the G-Rex PCI bus (for which I would just about give a vital organ to own, or maybe just some blood plasma :-))
-
shillard wrote:
Seems the auction has been pulled - or did I miss the conclusion?
Nope, was sold to a newbie for $510US, got 2 bids!
-
jimbo100 wrote:
shillard wrote:
Seems the auction has been pulled - or did I miss the conclusion?
Nope, was sold to a newbie for $510US, got 2 bids!
Any chance he might get what he ordered (or thought he did) before this decade is out?
I can only imagine the face of the poor newbie..."Why! But Why did I order from this guy?!?" :headwall:
-
And it was sold dispite this:
and the fact that I reported his listing to ebay as I beleived it violated EBay policy.
[Response]
Question about payment for item #150120353177 - Amiga 4000 Computer, Extremely
Nice Condition !I am not bypassing anything. eBay still gets their money. I do
email you an invoice using eBay's form, I just do not use their checkout form.
eBay sent this message to Donna Marsh (retrogeek001).
Your registered name is included to show this message originated from eBay.
Learn more.
[Question]
Item: Amiga 4000 Computer, Extremely Nice Condition ! (150120353177)
This message was sent while the listing was active.
by a potential buyer.
You state in your auction that:
Do not use eBay's check out. RetroGeek Auctions will email you an invoice. When mailing us your payment, make sure that you include a letter telling us what the payment is for and to neatly print your return address on your payment
envelope. Thank you very much for looking at this auction.
EBay has stated in previous E-Mails that this generaly indicates a SCAM, while I would be interested in purchasing an A4K from the amount of questions asked and the details provided I don't beleive I'd bid on this one, surely bypassing EBays payment methods means that EBay would miss out on some sort of auction fee and there fore would be against EBay policy, Hey I might be wrong but ive
only got experience in selling on the local version of Ebay.
[Below is sent by ebays mail system and contredicts what he is saying]
Details for item number: 150120353177
Item title: Amiga 4000 Computer, Extremely Nice Condition !
Item URL:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150120353177&sspagename=ADME:B:AAQ:US:1
End date: Thursday, May 10, 2007 12:28:16 PDT
Marketplace Safety Tip
Always remember to complete your transactions on eBay - it's the safer way to
trade.
Is this message an offer to buy your item directly through email without
winning the item on eBay? If so, please help make the eBay marketplace safer by
reporting it to us. These "outside of eBay" transactions may be unsafe and are
against eBay policy. Learn more about trading safely.
Is this email inappropriate? Does it violate eBay policy? Help protect the
Community by reporting it.
Learn how you can protect yourself from spoof (fake) emails at:
http://pages.ebay.com/education/spooftutorial
This eBay notice was sent to retrogeek001@comcast.net on behalf of another eBay
member through the eBay platform and in accordance with our Privacy Policy. If
you would like to receive this email in text format, change your notification
preferences.
See our Privacy Policy and User Agreement if you have questions about eBay's
communication policies.
Privacy Policy: http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/privacy-policy.html
User Agreement: http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/user-agreement.html
Copyright © 2006-2007 eBay, Inc. All Rights Reserved.
Designated trademarks and brands are the property of their respective owners.
eBay and the eBay logo are registered trademarks or trademarks of eBay, Inc.
eBay is located at 2145 Hamilton Avenue, San Jose, CA 95125.
-
Still think he's a complete numpty!
Retro
-
Nah, you don't have to use ebay's checkout. You can pay however you want if the seller is ok with it. I just sent out two money orders yesterday.
There isn't much wrong technically with his auction, except for the fact that he's asking for CASH (foreign currency??? huh???) and that he's just a complete ass.
-
love the urls for his images:
http://home.comcast.net/~retrogeek001/My2Babies.jpg
-
sir_inferno wrote:
love the urls for his images:
My2Babies.jpg
I guess they are mailorder babies then. Wonder if he has a mailorder bride as well :-)
Though I find it pretty harsh that he keeps calling one of his kids "piece of sh*t". Doomy sure must have had a bad youth...
-
he deleted the jpg...
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
-
OK folks,
I'm going to lock this thread. Just add this topic to the collection of "Beware of Doomy" posts and move along.
Nothing more to be said.
Regards,
Ltstanfo