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Title: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: guru-666 on May 03, 2007, 07:20:57 PM
I have used morphOS a little bit and found it to be great!  I think it's just what the doctor ordered.  It's mature and robust.   I want to hear form morphOS users and find out if anybody who bought a peg now thinks they suck of does not like the morph and needs OS4.  Becasue to me there is no point in fighting over this os4 (cool as it may be) given we have a winner with morphOS.
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: jj on May 03, 2007, 07:22:49 PM
not used it, never did get the free edition to work on my PPC equiped A1200 depsite many attempts, have always wanted to check it out, if only they would port to X86  :-)
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: Senex on May 03, 2007, 07:48:24 PM
I definitely like it and don't regret to have bought a Pegasos back then. But today I wouldn't buy an exotic hardware again, thus unless MorphOS would be ported to x64 some day, I'd just continue to use it as long as my Peg stays alive.
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: derringer3 on May 03, 2007, 07:56:38 PM
I tried to run on my 1200 too. Unfourtunatelly (and for the morphos team too) my mediator and voodoo card not supported. So only black screen.
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: guru-666 on May 03, 2007, 08:00:37 PM
most interested in people that HAVE used it.  Sounds like there are some issues on claasic hardware...
I have yet tohear anybody who has regreted getting a peg or somebody that did not like the morph once they did it running.
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: CannonFodder on May 03, 2007, 08:01:28 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: Methuselas on May 03, 2007, 08:02:13 PM
Quote

CannonFodder wrote:
Yes.



Traitor!  :-P  I kid, I kid. :roflmao:
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: d0pefish on May 03, 2007, 08:05:41 PM
I use it on my Amiga 4000 with Cyberstorm PPC and G-Rex.

Nice OS, opens up a few more possibilities for the old hardware and lets you get the most out of that PPC accelerator.  :-)
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: amiga4001 on May 03, 2007, 08:12:52 PM
Yes I like it very very much.
I used a amiga4000 with a cyberstorm before my peg2.
I still have this one waiting for OS4.0 for classic.
I have euae and whdload going on my peg and it runs all my old games very nice...apydia,turricans,K240 super.
I even connected an old suzy "the Arcade" joystick to it just to get the amiga feeling when playing.
I also use pagestream 3 and Fxpaint all work flawlessly.
And so do Artdepartment pro,mldonkey,aminetradio!!.makecd,Fpan,Xipaint,Samplemanager,Amigawriter..
And the list goes on and it runs these programs fast..
ANd there offcourse is Sputnik,Mosnet.
It feels like a amiga4000 cyberstorm equipped on steroids.
And I also like the settings you can perform.
All is very clear and easy to understand with this MUI4.


Downside off the OS..
No central place for all updates.
You have to look on different places for beta's,updates.
Printing is an issue with some programs.

If there is a new pegasos with morphos 1.5 I will buy this.
But I will also buy a OS4.0 system iff available.
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: jj on May 03, 2007, 08:13:39 PM
Has anybody got free morphos running on the same or similar hardware to mine?

A1200, 603e/175, 040/25 64mb ram
Latest powerflyer
3.1 roms
Rev 1a mobo
bvision
Z4 busboard
Hypercom
cybervision 64/3d
octagon scsi

I know morphos does not support powerflyer, but I have been told that as it will reconize the HDD on channel 0
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: McVenco on May 03, 2007, 08:15:10 PM
I wish I could use it. I have a Peg 1 but so far I can't even get a video signal out of it. I tried different AGP cards but it doesn't work.

So unfortunately I haven't used it yet. I'd love to though...
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: motorollin on May 03, 2007, 08:15:54 PM
I like MorphOS. It runs very nicely on my PegII. Sadly, I can't find much use for it since all of my Amiga needs are fulfilled by my A4000. I'm thinking of selling the PegII, even though for some reason I want to hold on to it :-?

--
moto
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: guru-666 on May 03, 2007, 08:19:09 PM
@moto
LOL, I love my 4000 also, though your PSU mod was well done....
I might be interested in your peg, you sound to take good care of your hardware!  You want to keep it becasue it is KEWL!
I have a question, how well does the peg run classic games?

@amiga4001
sounds like ti works great for you!

@McVenco
don't give up with help form moto or other you should be able to get it working...
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: motorollin on May 03, 2007, 08:43:13 PM
@guru-666
Classic games run really well under UAE in MorphOS. Newer games like Quake and Wipeout also run really well. I do want to keep the PegII for the cool factor. I know I'll use it now and again :-)

--
moto
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: McVenco on May 03, 2007, 08:49:08 PM
Quote

guru-666 wrote:

@McVenco
don't give up with help form moto or other you should be able to get it working...


Yeah, I already asked on 2 Peg forums what the problem might be. GFX card and harddisk don't work so I have a sneaky suspicion that the board may be faulty :-(
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: krize on May 03, 2007, 08:59:05 PM
I love it! Using a Peg2 with MOS as main machine at home..(now).

I like it more than my A4000 for desktop use. Playing all
video files smooth and still multitask without problem is something i
missed (and needed a pc) too do before. Not anymore :)

Also all emulators like Mame is frequntly used. Also streaming music
via Rdesktop, something my A4k struggles with is great to have.

Its very recomended. I only got it november last year, Im really glad
I bought it!
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: keropi on May 03, 2007, 09:11:23 PM
I succeded in running the 1st PUP version on my 1200/bppc/grex setup... it was just an empty OS, and passed it by...
Now I tried some times to run it on my 4000/csppc/grex setup, but without any luck... so I don't pay attention to it now :lol: ...
I wish they could add a boot manager of some sorts, like the linux distros...
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: Matt_H on May 03, 2007, 09:21:13 PM
I wasn't too fond of it when I first got it, but having installed a newer Ambient and other tweaks to the system (finally figured out how deficons work earlier this week) I'm enjoying it quite a lot. It's far more stable than my OS4 machine, very fast, very compatible, very Amiga.
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: rzookol on May 03, 2007, 09:22:28 PM
H've morphos on my Peg2 and a1200 ppc 240 mhz + bvision (i have only morphos on my amiga + Whdload games, no os3.x). It's really nice and compatible system (opus magellan is working in comparison to os4).
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: djbase on May 03, 2007, 09:34:08 PM
Quote
MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?


Yes, its a nice modern and fast amiga-like operating system.

Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: keropi on May 03, 2007, 09:52:54 PM
wtf, any guide to install in on classic 4000 ????
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: xeron on May 03, 2007, 09:53:15 PM
I use both and personally like AmigaOS4 a lot more than MorphOS.

They're both great, but OS4 just feels more polished and amigalike to me. If I had to get rid of either my Pegasos or my AmigaOne, the Peg would definately go.

There is room for both, I think.
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: oddmario on May 03, 2007, 09:57:33 PM
What fight about what?
Morph do not work !
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: krize on May 03, 2007, 09:59:22 PM
Oddmario: What do you mean ? Are you a MorphOs user?
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: djbase on May 03, 2007, 10:03:08 PM
Quote
wtf, any guide to install in on classic 4000 ????


All I did was to copy CD to HDD and edit startup-sequence. Thats all.

Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: keropi on May 03, 2007, 10:09:06 PM
is it so simple? I don't want to bin 3.9 on my amiga... also the kickflash/algorPRO roms get in the way... also am I supposed to have it on a partition smaller than 2gb? on the 2nd partition perhaps after 3.9?
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: guru-666 on May 03, 2007, 10:28:45 PM
@oddmario
you are a genius.....

@keropi
I think you can boot if from 3.9 after you copy it.  Not sure.  AZs you know my PPC card is toast.

@all
so far it sounds like morph works well for most users and can even work on some classic models.... So even once INC fails (I know they will) and hyperion looses (they might) who cares. there is already a new OS that works well and suits the community... I think we should be thankfull that genisi did this for us.  I respect that they don;t want to work with inc or hyperion... why should they work with amatures? I will support the morph team and I do urge them to get this OS working other CPU types IF possible!


Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: xeron on May 03, 2007, 10:46:40 PM
@guru-666
Even if OS4 development was completely stopped by all this stuff (though i doubt it), and MorphOS suddenly became very successful, i doubt i'd switch to MorphOS as my main Amigoid OS.

I'm glad we have both, but i'd much rather use OS4.
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: djbase on May 03, 2007, 10:50:13 PM
Quote
is it so simple? I don't want to bin 3.9 on my amiga... also the kickflash/algorPRO roms get in the way... also am I supposed to have it on a partition smaller than 2gb? on the 2nd partition perhaps after 3.9?


Yes, for me it was that simple. I have 2 Partitions each 20 GB, one for OS3.9 and one for MorphOS. By default it boots OS3.9, if I want to boot MorphOS I just change the bootdevice in the Early-Startup.

Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: JoannaK on May 03, 2007, 10:52:39 PM
I had one couple years ago ... actually had Peg1 first which was upgraded to Peg2 (sold it 2004 when found a project where it was badly needed)..

Hardware was good (this coming from HW designer) and I have never problems in it. Software was ok for what it was.. Gui works, and Shell is what's it supposed to be. There were not many commercial grade games/apps at the time but if you are used to get by what's available to Amiga systems it's not bad.

It was kinda amazing to see how seamlessly it could run new PPC stuff and older (often over decade old) 68K programs (yes, Mos had working Jit allready). Pitty though there were no decent web browser (still at works?) and some other apps I had accustomed to have (like M$ compatible text editor+spreadsheet) were lackin when comapared to most common OpenSouce variants.. But It's something a lot people can live with.  

Would I purchase one again? Perhaps, someday.
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: Van_M on May 03, 2007, 10:55:09 PM
If/when MOS 2.0 is released for the EFIKA, i will surely get a preconfugured box. Hopefully the price for one will be around 350 euros. Did MOS team keep on working on MOS after communication frose between them and Genesi (... and before they resumed) or they just put the whole project on ice? I'm asking this because MOS 1.5 (with serious improvements over 1.4) was expected, sometime around 2004. It didn't happen. If during these 3 years, they continued to hammer on MOS then MOS 2.0 should be light years ahead of the previous releases (and any other competition for that matter) with stuff like the Q/BOX, Altivec or even maybe 64-bit G5 support....  ;-)
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: guru-666 on May 03, 2007, 11:14:58 PM
@xeron
Not everbody will be happy all the time... there is no perfect world but it would appear that the next gen amiga OS has been released quite a while ago and any lamenting by bill m is just sour grapes from a looser and has no impact on the community. The community does not need (many don't want) Inc.  I suggest we ignore them.  If they come back with a working os4 that is better than morph they can sell it and find out who cares.  But to suggest that we need them or that they are important into days amiga market is a lie. There is no need to give them 20 question or special attention.  There patents are to old to matter anymore. Just so you guys know I don;t see red and blue I just see thing sthat work and things that don't... it's all amiga to me.
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: AmiDelf on May 03, 2007, 11:30:33 PM
Here is my MorphOS screenshot, downgraded from 1680x1050 to 800x600.

(http://home.powertech.no/micbergs/grabb/morphosnowsmall.jpg)

1680x1050: My MorphOS in 1680x1050 (http://home.powertech.no/micbergs/grabb/morphosnow.jpg)

I have my PegasosII connected to my Dell 22 inch LCD widescreen monitor. MorphOS gives such an brilliant picture. Better than OSX on my PowerBook, but that can be PowerBooks GeForce gfx which arent that good in 2D as ATI. I dont know.


I hope that some likes the screenshot.


Regards,
Michal
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: Damion on May 03, 2007, 11:33:17 PM
I sold my Pegasos several years ago, and even then MorphOS was fun, also fairly stable and useable. (I've
said it a million times here before, but I *loved* ANR.) The Pegasos was a nice machine, worked well and did everything
it was supposed to. I understand others feel differently (and I certainly respect the opinion of a certain few who do), but my overall experience with Genesi was positive. They even express shipped my board, international UPS, *for free*.

That said, I don't think I'd blow a huge wad of cash again to run MorphOS. For a fast AmigaOS experience I have
AROS, UAE, and my GVP A530 Turbo, LOL. ;-) However, I will buy an Efika if MorphOS is released for it. Don't think I could go wrong at that price, especially for what I'd use it for.


Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: Methuselas on May 03, 2007, 11:33:36 PM
Quote

motorollin wrote:

I'm thinking of selling the PegII, even though for some reason I want to hold on to it :-?

--
moto



Hold on to that Peg, Moto. Trust me. ;)
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: djbase on May 04, 2007, 12:07:08 AM
@ AmiDelf

Nice Desktop.  8-)

Here is mine -> click click click (http://www.amigaworld.de/pub/morphos_04052007.png)

Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: guru-666 on May 04, 2007, 12:18:13 AM
sweet screen shots!  Thanks guy this is very interesting to me!  Looks VERY amiga to me.   I guess if anybody wnat to chime in and tell me what makes os4 better than this that would be interesting also

Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: Edpon on May 04, 2007, 03:10:11 AM
@guru-666
  I'm starting to see the light man. I've been quietly watching for years, for Amiga / Hyperion / Eyetech to release an "Amiga" or a very Amiga feeling computer. Lately, I've been watching Genesi and their Efika very closely. I'm about a mouse click away from buying this cool computer. The only thing I worry about is the reversing, if you will, of CPU power and lack of DVD/CD drive. I was also told by a sales rep, that MorphOS should be shipping/downloadable by the middle of this month to go with it. The $399 Open Client Plus seems like a evenly matched computer, compared to the newly released Amiga specs; plus MorphOS is free and does look beautiful. I do have 2 questions for you and any other experienced MorphOS user;
1- Does MorphOS allow me to use my current 68K Amiga software, my disks in a added disk drive or some other way?
2- Does MorphOS truely "feel" like an Amiga did in the past? Because it sure looks like a fun OS
Thanks man.

Ed
 :-D  :-?  :-D
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: Matt_H on May 04, 2007, 03:41:08 AM
@ Edpon

Ooo, nice to hear about dates for MOS. Anyway, your questions (you'll get pretty much identical answers for OS4 as well)

1. Software: Yes, if it's system friendly. Old games need UAE. Disks will not work - there are no drivers for the Catweasel and the onboard floppy controller is a PC style one. If you make ADFs of your old disks you can use the images with something like diskimage.device, however.

2. Amiga feel: Absolutely. I switch between MOS and OS3.9 without having to switch operating mindsets like I do when switching between MOS and Linux. Taking the title out of consideration, you'll never know the difference.
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: AmigaMance on May 04, 2007, 04:20:07 AM
@rzookol
Quote
...a1200 ppc 240 mhz + bvision (i have only morphos on my amiga + Whdload games, no os3.x).

 What? I thought that WHDLoad doesn't work with MorphOS. :-?
 Perhaps this applies to peg users only??
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: Damion on May 04, 2007, 04:52:19 AM
Quote

AmigaMance wrote:
@rzookol
Quote
...a1200 ppc 240 mhz + bvision (i have only morphos on my amiga + Whdload games, no os3.x).

 What? I thought that WHDLoad doesn't work with MorphOS. :-?
 Perhaps this applies to peg users only??


Yeah, I'm assuming lack of an Amiga chipset on the Pegasos is your reason.

Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: TheMagicM on May 04, 2007, 05:21:49 AM
I loved it but regret that I gave my Peg I board back.  I should of just kept it.  It is so freakin fast/responsive.
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: krashan on May 04, 2007, 05:40:20 AM
I like to use MorphOS on my both machines (Pegasos II G4 and Efika) and also like to make it better (http://teleinfo.pb.edu.pl/reggae) :-).
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: takemehomegrandma on May 04, 2007, 07:27:03 AM
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I succeded in running the 1st PUP version on my 1200/bppc/grex setup... it was just an empty OS


Well, in that sense it resembles any other Amiga OS IMHO. How would you describe a fresh install of OS 3.1? ;-)

What you have after install is a foundation on which you can build whatever you want, the way you want it. Just like any Amigan should be used to do, right? But maybe some Amigans have had their classic systems running for such long time now, with a decade of extending it, installing new apps, patches, etc, that they have forgotten that what they actually got after they made their latest fresh install was nothing more than "just an empty OS"... ;-)
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: takemehomegrandma on May 04, 2007, 07:29:03 AM
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2. Amiga feel: Absolutely. I switch between MOS and OS3.9 without having to switch operating mindsets like I do when switching between MOS and Linux. Taking the title out of consideration, you'll never know the difference.


That sums it up pretty good IMHO! :-)

Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: djbase on June 08, 2007, 01:19:32 PM
It is so nice...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zg6F2ctl8kQ

 ;-)

Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: amigadave on June 08, 2007, 04:43:31 PM
I haven't had the chance to see much of AmigaOS 4.0 yet (other than a few demos at AmiWest last year that did not impress me too much), but from the few demos of MorphOS I have seen, I would have to say that it looks great and I want it.  I wonder how slow it is going to be on my CSPPC 233mHz 604e?
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: amigadave on June 08, 2007, 04:47:26 PM
I wish both MorphOS and AmigaOS 4.x would be released for the old PPC Macs so we would have a large supply of hardware to run the two OSes on.  That would prompt me to spend the money to fix my G4 PowerBook (again). :lol:

I would gladly spend up to $250 USD for either OS if it were released to run on any PPC Mac.  Not because it is a better OS than OS X or Windows XP Pro, but just because I am an Amiga user!

P.S. I would also buy either if they are ported to x86, but that would be a lot more work and I don't see that happening any time soon.
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: pVC on June 08, 2007, 05:36:21 PM
I've been long time Amiga fanatic (classic) and Peg1 user for 2-3 years, but now also have been using OS4 with A1XE for some time. I'd say both OS4 and MOS are really nice systems, but somehow MOS seems to be more compatible with old Amiga software (at least than Final Update of OS4). OS4 has nice softreboot, which boots even faster than Pegasos :)

But there's one thing which makes OS4 impossible to be my main computer. It hasn't advanced in file handling area. Workbench has basically the same functionality than in 3.x... whereas MOS's Ambient has progressed more to DOpus Magellan direction. That wouldn't be that big flaw if there would be working Magellan or similar for OS4, but there isn't at the moment. Old 68k Magellan works on MOS, but not in OS4... and no sign yet of the promised new version. You have to rely on DOpus4 or similar, which is pretty clumsy nowadays. And I really think, that these kind of functions should be in OS itself nowadays.

USB support is MUCH better in MOS, thanks to Poseidon. And I also like MUI4 more than Reaction, but that's a matter of taste... anyway as a long term Amiga user, I feel more home with MUI than Reaction.

Prefs system is bit messy on OS4. The old way of having separate prefs programs for everything isn't quite capable of today's amount of options. It would need some evolution from the 20 year old system. I think MOS has also taken a step forward with this.

At the end, I still feel to be home with my A1200/060/everything most (typing this message with it now ;), but Pegasos has taken a place as my main computer. OS4 at the moment is pretty much a nice toy for me. If there wouldn't be Pegasos, I guess OS4 would be entertainment machine for movies etc, but until there's better file handling possibilities, I guess A1200 would be mostly in use still :)
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: magnetic on June 08, 2007, 05:42:41 PM
Amigadave

You are going to get to try out my peg2 with mos soon :)

@ Xeron

Please tell us how in the world OS4 is better than MOS in any way?

Just to give the Classic Amiga guys who never tried morph a story:

 I had an A4000T with Phase5 PPC, Cybervision PPC, Vlab Motion, Toccata, video toaster, 20gb storage, w/ OS 3.9 + cybergrafx 4

I LOVED this machine. Then I got into the developer program of Phoenix consortium and got my Peg1 with MOS 1.3. Before long I did not use the 4000T AT ALL except for video editing with vlab motion/vT 4000. The peg ran all the software I ran on my 4000T but better and faster!

Soon, I sold the 4000T and got a Peg2. Love every second of it. Now, my Peg is quad boot:

OSX Tiger
Ubuntu PPC
Gentoo Linux PPC
Morphos 1.4.5


its great.

magnetic
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: guru-666 on June 08, 2007, 06:18:47 PM
@magnetic
to be fair you can't use the peg to do video editing.  the problem is there is NO software for either morph OR os4.

IMHO the 4000T is a way more usefull machine, you should not have let yours go.

OS3.9 is still the best amiga OS out there, just becasuse all the hardware and software you can run.
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: Framiga on June 08, 2007, 06:41:33 PM
i have PAR + its capture card up and running onto my MOS for PowerUP system (far from a NLE solution anyway).

Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: Framiga on June 08, 2007, 06:47:01 PM
OS4 whatever people thinks, its a more complete OS.

Which one is better? no clue... i'll tell you when/if i'll get a copy of OS4 onto my system (the only way to compare the 2 OSs)

Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: guru-666 on June 08, 2007, 08:02:10 PM
@framiga
Just based on what YOU said here, I have to disagree with that, try to run PAR + capture on OS4.


morph is more compleat and actauly available, I'm not usre what I would call OS4 at this point.
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: Framiga on June 08, 2007, 08:11:43 PM
just based on what you said, you have no the freaking clue of what are you speaking about.

PAR is totally indipendent from the OS but the GUI (easily promotable with NewMode).

I don't know (as you) if the PAR will works on AOS4 hence, your wasting your time with such comparision.

Obviously i'm speaking about MOS for PowerUP and an eventual Classic Amiga OS4.

Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: pixie on June 08, 2007, 08:21:42 PM
Krashan wrote:
Quote
I like to use MorphOS on my both machines (Pegasos II G4 and Efika) and also like to make it better (http://teleinfo.pb.edu.pl/reggae) :-).

Naughty naughty... joking at us, mere mortals who don't have access to MOS on EFIKA... :-P
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: guru-666 on June 08, 2007, 09:18:52 PM
@Framiga
work on your social skills... they are lacking.  You are a  genius... LOL

It's obvious, MOS is better than OS4, there is more hardware and software to run.  

Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: Jupp3 on June 08, 2007, 09:49:34 PM
I remember doing the first MorphOS tests on my A1200. I think it was 0.3.

It was really hard to setup, depended on lots of classic amigaos stuff to work back then, was a bit slower than my 060 due to emulation (175MHz PPC) and was quite unstabile aswell.

But still it felt awesome. It was unbelieveable, how the whole system ran just on PPC processor, only needing some serious bugfixing etc. :-)

On the other hand it felt a bit "wrong", as the expensive 060 chip was left totally useless. But I saw it as a "way to the future", running on machines with only PPC chip, as it was becoming harder & more expensive to update classic amigas...

So then came Pegasos 1. I saw it at local demonstration, and it certainly was a lot more stabile (I had updated MorphOS on my classic a few times) and looked like something "almost usable". Anyway, that's when Pegasos 1 made it onto my shopping list, and when finally available for general public, I bought one.

1.3 worked ok, and later released 1.4 even better. Obviously I also updated to Pegasos 2 when the update offer became available.

Then came long delays in releases, and even if major update is still not released, the 3 worst bugs / missing features were fixed (namely support for Radeon 3D graphics, bugs in DVD access (only first 4GB could be read properly) and HD support (there was some max limit, which I can't remember now)). Also MUI and Ambient have improved a lot since then. Even if I'm quite happy with the current system, there are some rather minor things I don't like, such how it isn't possible to change the 32bit pointer to new one (4col pointers probably should work, but that's why I haven't even bothered testing them). Also memory fragmentation slows the system down after a few days, if it's in use constantly. But that kind of small fixes and new hardware accelerated graphics system make the next version worth waiting for :-)

So what do I use it for then? Basic networking (forums, irc...), software development (OpenGL & SDL based own projects, written with GoldEd), media playback (videos, audio) and games (mostly MAME)

And yes, I do realize that I could do most things on other systems aswell, and some might argue I might be able to do them even better (especially web browsing, but I don't really browse "too demanding" sites that much, and I have linux box running anyway)

Last but not least, it's also "Something Completely Different" after spending whole day developing with Linux at work :-D
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: djbase on December 13, 2007, 08:07:49 PM
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amigadave wrote:
I haven't had the chance to see much of AmigaOS 4.0 yet (other than a few demos at AmiWest last year that did not impress me too much), but from the few demos of MorphOS I have seen, I would have to say that it looks great and I want it.  I wonder how slow it is going to be on my CSPPC 233mHz 604e?


Well, its useable, even on my slower 180 MHz CSPPC.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJHB85nJwew

Sorry, not the best quality, will make a better video later.
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: A1260 on December 13, 2007, 08:30:18 PM
 :-x
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: nasty on December 13, 2007, 09:15:44 PM
Never tryed MOS, (might be a stupid question)but what was the reason for not supporting the mediator?
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: jj on December 13, 2007, 09:28:57 PM
Unwillingness from elbox to help/write drivers ?
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: Wilse on December 13, 2007, 09:35:53 PM
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guru-666 wrote:
 I want to hear form morphOS users and find out if anybody who bought a peg now thinks they suck of does not like the morph and needs OS4.  Becasue to me there is no point in fighting over this os4 (cool as it may be) given we have a winner with morphOS.


I have to admit my Peg1 has been gathering dust for a while - about a year I think. My A1 is rarely used these days either.

Both systems are very nice though. It's just that I tend to use my Mac for just about everything these days.

At a push I'd go for OS4 over MOS although I couldn't put my finger on exactly why.
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: Acill on December 13, 2007, 09:53:09 PM
Been a MorphOS user since the 0.3 days, got a Peg II and sold my PPC A3000T. I have never regretted it even once.  MOS is by far the best Amiga system ever. I even argue its better then OS4. When 2,0 come out soon it want even be a question as to which is better.
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: djbase on December 13, 2007, 09:55:16 PM
I don't wanted to bring up the fight again. Each system will find its group. Both will have fun and thats the point.
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: Tempest on December 13, 2007, 11:09:44 PM
Yes, I like MorphOS  :-)

It's a very nice, compatible (os3.x) and fast OS, very Amiga like but with it's own identity.
Here (http://home.xmsnet.nl/toto/mos-shots/) are some screenshots of my current setup. It's MorphOS 1.4.5 with the latest Ambient and MUI4.

BTW I'm selling my spare Pegasos II board (G4@1000/256MB), pictures here (http://home.xmsnet.nl/toto/PegasosII/). If interested send me a PM.
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: amigadave on December 14, 2007, 12:20:17 AM
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Acill wrote:
Been a MorphOS user since the 0.3 days, got a Peg II and sold my PPC A3000T. I have never regretted it even once.  MOS is by far the best Amiga system ever. I even argue its better then OS4. When 2,0 come out soon it want even be a question as to which is better.


Is version 2.0 of MorphOS guaranteed to run on the PegI and PegII boards?  I thought I had read that it would not, but that does not make sense, even if it is targeted at another platform, they should still support their previous user base.
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: zylesea on December 14, 2007, 12:54:00 AM
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amigadave wrote:

Is version 2.0 of MorphOS guaranteed to run on the PegI and PegII boards?  I thought I had read that it would not, but that does not make sense, even if it is targeted at another platform, they should still support their previous user base.


Yes it is guaranteed. MOS 2.0 supports all Pegasos models and Efika.
Even for PuP there might be an update, but that one - if it comes -
will definitely not include new hardware support.
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: zylesea on December 14, 2007, 01:08:29 AM
@ guru-666

I am MOS user since the 0.4 release. Used 0.4 a lot (had a 68040 and
0.4 was faster and many apps run more stable on 0.4 than on 3.x). Then
i got my Peg with MOS 1.0, but initially that was not too stable for
me. With the April fix things became better and since around
January/February 2003 I use it as my main OS.
MOS is my favorite OS and I never ever
regretted a single moment to have bought the Peg, but am happy to have
this lovely computer and OS.
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: amigadave on December 14, 2007, 01:32:13 AM
@zylesea,

There is a lot of discussion about wanting AOS4.0 on a PPC Mac, here and on other forums.  What do the MOS coders think about porting MOS to the PPC Mac?

If I had money to BURN I would buy a PegII G4@ 1gHz, but I don't, so I will settle for MOS for pup.  It would be nice to be able to run both MorphOS2.0 and AmigaOS4.0 on my old Mac Powerbook G4.
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: djbase on December 14, 2007, 11:45:40 AM
Ok, I uploaded a second video showing a bit more.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lKe5DZcreI


Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: Colani1200 on December 14, 2007, 01:00:38 PM
Nice... Looks pretty snappy too. I hope 2.0 will finally come out with Efika support. I recently bought one, just in case...  ;-)
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: keropi on December 14, 2007, 01:20:12 PM
In MOS we trust

 :-D  :-D  :-D
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: Crumb on December 14, 2007, 01:24:33 PM
I used it on Classic and peg1 and it was very nice. You have to tweak it a little but compatibility is very good. It lets you use 68k, PowerUp and WarpOS software

@McVenco
You could connect a serial cable and see if there's any debug output.

@keropi

Boot manager? simply choose the partition in the early boot menu. It will boot without problems.

If you have doubts about how to install MOS on your classic write me to jcagigal (at) gmail (point) com and I'll help you. It's pretty easy.

Algor/Romulus is no problem to load MOS/OS4. Simply disable it pressing right or left mouse button. Be sure that you are using a modern bootmodule and a modern luciferin.

@Edpon

you can connect your amiga HDs directly. It won't be a problem. Just take care of priority or pass as argument "bootdevice=YOURMOSPARTITION"
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: keropi on December 14, 2007, 01:28:15 PM
still I believe a real bootmanager is way better than early-startup-menu.
I now have a triple-boot A4000D, OS3.9 + MOS + OS4 , but since it is a grex4000D amiga OS4 is pretty much lame at it...
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: djbase on December 14, 2007, 01:29:55 PM
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Crumb wrote:
Algor/Romulus is no problem to load MOS/OS4. Simply disable it pressing right or left mouse button. Be sure that you are using a modern bootmodule and a modern luciferin.


I don't have to dissable the flash of my Algor when booting into MorphOS. Seems only OS4 has problems with that for whatever reason.
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: Crumb on December 14, 2007, 01:31:40 PM
@keropi

You could fit a 2nd gfx card to use OS4... a cv64 with passthrough connected to your scandoubler for example. You'll lose one pci slot but it's better than nothing.

I think there are bootmanagers in Aminet. It's not hard to create one.
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: keropi on December 14, 2007, 01:33:29 PM
crumb you are right! I have a spare CV64 ! I totally forgot about the zorro part of the G-Rex4000D  :-D
I will sacrifice the 512i sound card then  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

edit: better solution!
I grabbed a 2nd PicassoIV so I replace the Arxon scandoubler
on 3.9 it will only work as a scandoubler with voodoo3
on MOS it will be dead, as only voodoo3 is needed
and on OS4 it will work as a sd/ff+pIV  :-D
I think it will work great, and I get to keep the 512i  :-D
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: Matt_H on December 14, 2007, 02:58:15 PM
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DJBase wrote:
Quote

Crumb wrote:
Algor/Romulus is no problem to load MOS/OS4. Simply disable it pressing right or left mouse button. Be sure that you are using a modern bootmodule and a modern luciferin.


I don't have to dissable the flash of my Algor when booting into MorphOS. Seems only OS4 has problems with that for whatever reason.

MOS chokes if I don't disable my Algor. What modules and bootloader are you using?
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: Levithicus on December 14, 2007, 04:04:21 PM
I am thinking of buying a efika board and put it inside a 1200 case if MOS 2.0 is released for it.
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: jkonstan on December 14, 2007, 05:55:31 PM
How do I obtain MorphOS for my Efika board that I recently purchased ?

 :-)
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: pixie on December 14, 2007, 06:33:14 PM
@jkonstan:
First you need a goat, then you must sacrifice its first born in the new moon. It's that easy ;-)
Title: Re: MorphOS users.. do you like your OS?
Post by: Matt_H on December 14, 2007, 08:21:26 PM
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jkonstan wrote:
How do I obtain MorphOS for my Efika board that I recently purchased ?

 :-)

You don't. Not yet, at least. Development hasn't finished.