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Title: A valid reason to buy Vista...
Post by: Karlos on April 18, 2007, 08:40:03 PM
Has anybody checked out the CryTek2 engine videos yet? The fact that the engine is DirectX 10 only seems to be the most compelling reason to get Vista (and appropriate hardware) to date :lol:

IMNSHO, this is far and away the best 3D game engine ever produced.Screenshot here... (http://www.hardwired.hu/img/wg/2/743/Crysis_44.jpg)
Title: Re: A valid reason to buy Vista...
Post by: X-ray on April 18, 2007, 08:45:59 PM
Ja, that is droolworthy.
Title: Re: A valid reason to buy Vista...
Post by: Karlos on April 18, 2007, 08:47:27 PM
You should see it moving. It's almost uncomfortably realistic. Absolutely everything looks, moves and interacts with startling realism.

There's a scene on the end of the video when something large explodes in the distance and the viewer is caught in the blast wave as it sweeps out. I've seen movies with less compelling visual effects.
Title: Re: A valid reason to buy Vista...
Post by: X-ray on April 18, 2007, 08:52:04 PM
What are the hardware requirements?
Title: Re: A valid reason to buy Vista...
Post by: Karlos on April 18, 2007, 08:55:44 PM
Not sure at the moment. I had to watch the videos sans audio at work.

Take the requirements for an "enjoyable" Vista experience and then augment those specs by the typical margin required by game fanatics.

So, I imagine a good core2 duo, as much ram as you can install and a fully DX10 compatible graphics card, again with as much ram as you can get, just for starters...

Bit of googling:

CPU: Dual-core CPU (Athlon X2/Pentium D)
Graphics: Nvidia 7800GTX/ATI X1800XT (SM 3.0) or DX10 equivalent
RAM: 1.5Gb
HDD: 6GB
Internet: 512k+ (128k+ upstream)
Optical Drive: DVD
Software: DX10 with Windows Vista
Title: Re: A valid reason to buy Vista...
Post by: X-ray on April 18, 2007, 08:59:24 PM
It's a tall ask.
However, it looks damn fine. I wouldn't mind Grand Theft Auto or the next Time Crisis rendered like that.
Title: Re: A valid reason to buy Vista...
Post by: X-ray on April 18, 2007, 09:01:08 PM
Oh, it's not so bad.
Title: Re: A valid reason to buy Vista...
Post by: Karlos on April 18, 2007, 09:03:23 PM
The engine is up for lisencing now, according to the vid. I would expect a lot of game production companies will by lining  up to lisence it.

The people behind it are producing a game called Crysis which looks pretty similar to Far Cry (unsurprisingly, of course) - do a search for that and you'll see a lot more.

Regarding the spec, I get the impression that's the realistic minimum ;-)
Title: Re: A valid reason to buy Vista...
Post by: X-ray on April 18, 2007, 09:05:32 PM
Ok I am checking it out...
Title: Re: A valid reason to buy Vista...
Post by: Speelgoedmannetje on April 18, 2007, 09:20:01 PM
Well, this kind of game would be revolutionary if the game character wears the gun lefthanded, so to say :roll:
Title: Re: A valid reason to buy Vista...
Post by: X-ray on April 18, 2007, 09:22:56 PM
Looks very good!
Title: Re: A valid reason to buy Vista...
Post by: PMC on April 18, 2007, 09:30:05 PM
Damn.  That means a new processor, which will mean a new motherboard to support it.  Then I'll need new memory and a new GFX card as I might was well go PCI express.  

Ah, with more resources required, I'll need another new drive.

All of a sudden that lovely game engine looks expensive!
Title: Re: A valid reason to buy Vista...
Post by: X-ray on April 18, 2007, 09:33:29 PM
Ja, for me the cost would be the OS and the GFX card. I have the dual core and the RAM already.
Title: Re: A valid reason to buy Vista...
Post by: Karlos on April 18, 2007, 09:41:25 PM
For that I'd be inclined to go for a quad core :lol:
Title: Re: A valid reason to buy Vista...
Post by: Karlos on April 18, 2007, 09:51:34 PM
Now that's what I call attention to detail (http://www.hardwired.hu/img/wg/2/743/Crysis_45.jpg) :lol:
Title: Re: A valid reason to buy Vista...
Post by: CannonFodder on April 18, 2007, 10:19:07 PM
So that explains the delays to OS4.

Hyperion are busy porting this engine to run on Radeon 9200 based 800Mhz PPC's. ;-)
Title: Re: A valid reason to buy Windows MEII...
Post by: bloodline on April 18, 2007, 10:28:09 PM
I'm sure some company will build a rival engine using OpenGL 2.0... well you have to be optimistic...
Title: Re: A valid reason to buy Windows MEII...
Post by: bloodline on April 18, 2007, 10:31:58 PM
Just look at the dev tools (near the end of the video).. one could easily build a complete game in weeks...
Title: Re: A valid reason to buy Vista...
Post by: FluffyMcDeath on April 21, 2007, 05:58:38 PM
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Karlos wrote:
The engine is up for lisencing now, according to the vid. I would expect a lot of game production companies will by lining  up to lisence it.


And hopefully porting it to an operating system that people are willing to buy. For e.g. Dell has gone back to shipping XP due to demand.
Title: Re: A valid reason to buy Windows MEII...
Post by: bloodline on April 23, 2007, 12:50:43 PM
Looks like you don't need Windows MEII (Vista) after all...

http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=39095

I rather like the part about running DX10 games in MacOSX on x86 systems... that's what I like to hear ;-)

-EDIT- note that "The Inquirer", now refer to Windows Vista as Windows MEII (pronounced M.E.2)... I would appreciate an effort to refer to it as such on all amiga Fora :-)
Title: Re: A valid reason to buy Vista...
Post by: stopthegop on April 28, 2007, 04:10:21 AM
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A valid reason to buy Vista?  


Dementia
Title: Re: A valid reason to buy Vista...
Post by: NoFastMem on April 29, 2007, 12:47:39 PM
Oh XP, I used to treat it with such disdain. Much to their own detriment, Microsoft managed to hone XP into a relatively usable and stable OS in the five intervening years. Oops.
Title: Re: A valid reason to buy Vista...
Post by: bloodline on April 29, 2007, 01:40:31 PM
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NoFastMem wrote:
Oh XP, I used to treat it with such disdain. Much to their own detriment, Microsoft managed to hone XP into a relatively usable and stable OS in the five intervening years. Oops.


Exactly, I realised many years ago, that it was in M$'s interest to make sure that their operating systems were flawed... that way they could ensure that users would upgrade. The Windows 9x systems were perfect for this business model... but after the joke that was WinME1... M$ had no choice but move the consumer over to the more stable NT platform... introducing WinXP... now users would experience a system that lacked the design flaws of the 9x systems and would therefore function effectively for the task which it was designed.

Strike one against the old business model!

Then Longhorn was delayed... now users grew comfortable with the XP platform... and being actually quite a well designed system it behaves predictably and thus can be relied upon. The delays meant that M$ had no choice but to update XP and keep it useable!

Strike two against the old business model!

Now MEII (Vista) has been released... it break compatiblity with existing software and hardware (much like Windows 2K did, when released... but that hadd a year or so in the wild to allow it to gain support, before it was released to the consumer as XP)... and it lacks any real features that users need, not to mention that all "new" features have been present in *NIXes and MacOS X for years...

No user wants MEII... The OEMs would prefer to phase it in over time... but that is totally against M$ business models...
Title: Re: A valid reason to buy Vista...
Post by: Vincent on April 29, 2007, 09:50:50 PM
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stopthegop wrote:
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A valid reason to buy Vista?  


Dementia

:lol:

@tpg
I'm the same.  I used 2k for years and it was great, used XP once or twice with no luck at all.

Eventually after all the hotfixes and SPs I decided to give it another go and what a surprise I got - it was actually useable on a daily basis!

I've got a feeling Vista'll be the same.
Title: Re: A valid reason to buy Vista...
Post by: iMiga on April 30, 2007, 11:42:48 PM
I personally like WinXP, certainly my favourite of the Windows operating systems, and I pretty much think they 'cracked it' with XP Professional (however I still like Madriva because it's different :P)

Bloodline has a good point about the Microsoft business models. Vista is not a good option now, but may be in 2 or so years time once the teething problems have been ironed out.

My recipe for stable computer and internet life at very low cost, or no cost ;) :
Windows XP
Spybot
Ad-Aware
AVG Free

Oh, and hello  :-D
Title: Re: A valid reason to buy Vista...
Post by: Van_M on May 03, 2007, 02:00:46 PM
If wonder if the recommended specs on crysis will be enough. Most of the times you have to add another 30% to the venders recommnded specs in order to enjoy the game with advanced graphics settings and such.
Title: Re: A valid reason to buy Vista...
Post by: NoFastMem on May 05, 2007, 05:05:53 PM
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iMiga wrote:
My recipe for stable computer and internet life at very low cost, or no cost ;) :
Windows XP
Spybot
Ad-Aware
AVG Free


Add a Core 2 Duo to that list and you're golden.

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Oh, and hello  :-D


Hi! :-)
Title: Re: A valid reason to buy Vista...
Post by: NoFastMem on May 05, 2007, 05:11:18 PM
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Van_M wrote:
If wonder if the recommended specs on crysis will be enough. Most of the times you have to add another 30% to the venders recommnded specs in order to enjoy the game with advanced graphics settings and such.


Mmm, I wonder if, in a case like this where the advances in realism of the engine are really being pushed, high recommended specs are touted to emphasise the complexity of the software.