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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: Vanzzig on June 15, 2003, 03:39:46 PM

Title: ISA Ethernet Card
Post by: Vanzzig on June 15, 2003, 03:39:46 PM
Good morning all folks.
I have a question about what kind of networking software I need for ISA Ethernet card (3Com) to my A4000. Can I use Miami or do I need a drivers for it?
I bought it cheap and haven't had time to try it yet.

/Hans Kettilstein
Title: Re: ISA Ethernet Card
Post by: KennyR on June 15, 2003, 04:13:29 PM
Um, as far as I know an A4000 has no ISA slots.
Title: Re: ISA Ethernet Card
Post by: Terminills on June 15, 2003, 04:22:19 PM
The A4000 has ISA slots. I don't think they're active tho.
Title: Re: ISA Ethernet Card
Post by: Framiga on June 15, 2003, 04:26:00 PM
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Um, as far as I know an A4000 has no ISA slots.

yes A4000 has ISA slots but they carry only the power lines.

To activate it, you must install a BridgeBoard card.

The problem is that there aren't drivers for ISA cards.

CORRECTION:

so . . .yes MiamiDX has a MNI driver for GoldenGate2 card (ISA bridgeboard card) with Ethernet 3COM support.

The problen now, is to find a GoldenGate2 card :-)

Ciao



Title: Re: ISA Ethernet Card
Post by: Vanzzig on June 15, 2003, 05:15:59 PM
So, who produced these GoldenGate2 card? Or what does it cost in the second hand?
Title: Re: ISA Ethernet Card
Post by: olegil on June 15, 2003, 05:19:42 PM
I would estimate the price at about 3 gazillion kg of gold.

Why not go for a Mediator instead? PCI kicks those dead rats asses (you know, the ones ISA suck through garden hoses?) so hard you'll never look back :-)
Title: Re: ISA Ethernet Card
Post by: Framiga on June 15, 2003, 05:26:58 PM
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So, who produced these GoldenGate2 card? Or what does it cost in the second hand?

quite impossible to find it! and very expensive too.

I suggest you, to buy a XSurf2 Zorro card (115,00 EUR) perfect for LAN and DSL connection.

Ciao
Title: Re: ISA Ethernet Card
Post by: bloodline on June 15, 2003, 05:32:29 PM
To be honest, if you really fancy keeoing the A4000 going, get some PCI board and use cheap PCI network card (and a PCI Sound card and a PCI Gfx card).

Your Amiga will thank you, by being much better.  :-D
Title: Re: ISA Ethernet Card
Post by: Lo on June 15, 2003, 05:52:43 PM
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 I bought it cheap and haven't had time to try it yet.
Title: Re: ISA Ethernet Card
Post by: Lo on June 15, 2003, 05:55:24 PM
OooPs,..I meant to say a little black boxBB SOHO Gateway solves many old problemos'
Title: Re: ISA Ethernet Card
Post by: Framiga on June 15, 2003, 06:06:16 PM
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To be honest, if you really fancy keeoing the A4000 going, get some PCI board and use cheap PCI network card (and a PCI Sound card and a PCI Gfx card).

Your Amiga will thank you, by being much better.


yes ofcourse but . . . .you must before buy a Mediator card for A4000D (bad idea IMHO) or a PowerTower/Mirage4000 with Mediator card in bundle . . . not sure the  cheepest way :-)

If the user need only an Ethernet card fot its A4000, the best choise, is a XSurf2.



Title: Re: ISA Ethernet Card
Post by: Oli_hd on June 15, 2003, 08:16:43 PM
Hi,

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what does it cost in the second hand?

£69.99 from Eyetech (www.eyetech.co.uk (http://www.eyetech.co.uk/search.php?SearchStr=&SearchCat=ALSO)

As for everyone saying go for a PCI bus, ermm well its a great option and if you are going to buy lots of upgrades for your A4K then do, otherwise go for an IOBlix with the ethernet option like me.  :-D
You get more serial and par ports than you will ever need as well as ethernet.

Otherwise go for the X-Surf 2 (Or the original second hand)
Title: Re: ISA Ethernet Card
Post by: bloodline on June 15, 2003, 08:28:09 PM
If I had one of those pretty original commodore A4000T's (not the crappy AT reissue) I would get a meditator in a flash...

But I don't :-(
Title: Re: ISA Ethernet Card
Post by: Vanzzig on June 16, 2003, 07:06:52 PM
OK sounds great... I think...
Were do I get this stuff? IOBlix and X-Surf 2.
And what do it cost?
If someone knows a reseller in sweden I would
be glad.
Title: Re: ISA Ethernet Card
Post by: B00tDisk on June 16, 2003, 07:50:50 PM
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Vanzzig wrote:
OK sounds great... I think...
Were do I get this stuff? IOBlix and X-Surf 2.
And what do it cost?
If someone knows a reseller in sweden I would
be glad.




You might consider a USB solution with a USB to Ethernet media converter...opens up a whole new world of expansion possibilities!

Title: Re: ISA Ethernet Card
Post by: Framiga on June 16, 2003, 08:29:05 PM
Quote:

Vanzzig wrote:
OK sounds great... I think...
Were do I get this stuff? IOBlix and X-Surf 2.
And what do it cost?
If someone knows a reseller in sweden I would
be glad.

Try to visit Individual Computer's site at:

http://www.jschoenfeld.de/indexe.htm (XSurf2)

Ciao


Title: Re: ISA Ethernet Card
Post by: Crumb on June 16, 2003, 09:22:22 PM
I'm using a cbm 286 bridgeboard to activate the isa slots of my 4000T with an NE2000 without problems...
You can use your 3com too if you find a cbm bridgeboard... a 286 or 386 would be a good idea, 8086 ones use 8 bit isas and you may have problems, I don't know...
download etherbridge.lha from Aminet.
Title: Re: ISA Ethernet Card
Post by: Dr_Righteous on June 17, 2003, 12:48:54 AM
Bridgeboards can be picked up cheaply on Ebay... I see them on there all the time. Usually they're 286's... I've been waiting to find a 386 or 486 one before I pick one up.

You know, I'm kinda suprized Elbox hasn't taken the Mediator to the bridgeboard level yet... Hmm...
Title: Re: ISA Ethernet Card
Post by: Atheist on June 17, 2003, 10:15:44 AM
I don't think they ever made 486 and higher boards.

386, maybe.

AmigaOne! Sans x86, msos, bs!!!
Title: Re: ISA Ethernet Card
Post by: AmiDog on June 17, 2003, 11:45:38 AM
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Vanzzig wrote:
OK sounds great... I think...
Were do I get this stuff? IOBlix and X-Surf 2.
And what do it cost?
If someone knows a reseller in sweden I would
be glad.

GGS-Data (http://www.ggsdata.se/) (Swedish) may have it...
Title: Re: ISA Ethernet Card
Post by: Dr_Righteous on June 18, 2003, 06:55:11 AM
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Atheist wrote:
I don't think they ever made 486 and higher boards.

386, maybe.

AmigaOne! Sans x86, msos, bs!!!


Actually, they did... Goldengate boards come in 486SLC/50MHz...

For those who aren't up to speed on old PCs, the 486SLC is a 486SX designed to work in 386 sockets... No FPU onboard. One of the cooler chips made by Texas Instruments (sometimes rebadged by Cyrix).
Title: Re: ISA Ethernet Card
Post by: bluefunk on June 18, 2003, 08:18:09 AM
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Crumb wrote:
I'm using a cbm 286 bridgeboard to activate the isa slots of my 4000T with an NE2000 without problems....


3COM cards are not NE2000 compatible, but you can use every card which has a dos packet driver...

--
Bluefunk
Title: Re: ISA Ethernet Card
Post by: Oli_hd on June 18, 2003, 10:25:27 AM
Hi,

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Were do I get this stuff? IOBlix and X-Surf 2.

I got mine from vesalia.de (http://www.vesalia.de) ,  the ethernet card at the moment is £35 but you have to e-mail for a price on the IOBlix.
Title: Re: ISA Ethernet Card
Post by: Terminills on June 18, 2003, 12:52:23 PM
I don't remember if they made 486's but some company made a pentium one ... I think it was called pentilater or something along those lines.  I'd like to get my hands on one of those with a voltage adapter to allow a 450 k63.  :-D
Title: Re: ISA Ethernet Card
Post by: Floid on June 18, 2003, 05:27:05 PM
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Crumb wrote:
I'm using a cbm 286 bridgeboard to activate the isa slots of my 4000T with an NE2000 without problems...
You can use your 3com too if you find a cbm bridgeboard... a 286 or 386 would be a good idea, 8086 ones use 8 bit isas and you may have problems, I don't know...
download etherbridge.lha from Aminet.
This *is* doable??? Aigh, I wish I'd known this when my accellerated 2000 was sitting next to me!

Care to elaborate on the minimum/maximum requirements?

I had a 2286 I'd popped a 286-to-486(SLC?) 'chip' into, but never fabricated a good solution to extend the daughtercard the extra inch above the riser.