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Title: Workbenc 2.05 help
Post by: baz136 on March 16, 2007, 06:58:54 PM
I, I have recently got a working backup of workbench 2.05 (thanks a1200) my original discs were screwed. Anyway, I also had crossdos on another workbench disk and found out it was a 3.00 version of workbench. Now I was wondering is it possible to use some crazy way to get atleast the doss driver on the 2.05 disc or even write an adf to a floppy? I heard of some amiga basic code you could write to do this, is there an easier way?
Title: Re: Workbenc 2.05 help
Post by: amigakit on March 16, 2007, 07:18:09 PM
We have written the program EasyADF to do this and more.

See EasyADF PCMCIA CF Transfer Kit:
 
http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=440

Works with A600s and A1200 - you dont need a hard disk as it is self-booting but can be HD installable
Title: Re: Workbenc 2.05 help
Post by: baz136 on March 16, 2007, 07:22:09 PM
Very nice :) Is there another way (free) to do this? I found a java floppy disc reader but not writer. I just need to transfer 1 file, seems a bit of a waste lol
Title: Re: Workbenc 2.05 help
Post by: Thomas on March 17, 2007, 07:08:56 AM
I don't fully understand what your problem is. You want CrossDOS and you say that you have CrossDOS on "another workbench disk". So why don't you just use it ?

If you miss the PC0 dos driver, here it is:

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Code: [Select]

/* $VER: PC0 40.1 (31.8.93)
 *
 * CrossDOS file system entry
 *
 * This file enables CrossDOS on the built-in floppy drive normally
 * referred to as DF0:. PC1 does the same for DF1. By creating new versions
 * of this file and changing the Unit line to use other numbers, you can
 * make CrossDOS available on other devices. For example, changing the value
 * of Unit to 2 would create a mount file that would enable CrossDOS on DF2.
 */

FileSystem = L:CrossDOSFileSystem
Device = mfm.device
Flags = 1
Surfaces = 2
SectorsPerTrack = 9
SectorSize = 512
Reserved = 1
Interleave = 0
LowCyl = 0
HighCyl = 79
Buffers = 5
BufMemType = 0
StackSize = 600
Priority = 10
GlobVec = -1
DosType = 0x4D534400

/* The Unit field is controlled by tooltypes in the PC0 icon.
 *
 * Unit = 0
 */


Bye,
Thomas
Title: Re: Workbenc 2.05 help
Post by: baz136 on March 17, 2007, 07:59:21 AM
thank you :) the disc with crossdos is corrupt, read errors etc
Title: Re: Workbenc 2.05 help
Post by: baz136 on March 17, 2007, 11:47:48 PM
Quote

Thomas wrote:
I don't fully understand what your problem is. You want CrossDOS and you say that you have CrossDOS on "another workbench disk". So why don't you just use it ?

If you miss the PC0 dos driver, here it is:

Quote
Code: [Select]

/* $VER: PC0 40.1 (31.8.93)
 *
 * CrossDOS file system entry
 *
 * This file enables CrossDOS on the built-in floppy drive normally
 * referred to as DF0:. PC1 does the same for DF1. By creating new versions
 * of this file and changing the Unit line to use other numbers, you can
 * make CrossDOS available on other devices. For example, changing the value
 * of Unit to 2 would create a mount file that would enable CrossDOS on DF2.
 */

FileSystem = L:CrossDOSFileSystem
Device = mfm.device
Flags = 1
Surfaces = 2
SectorsPerTrack = 9
SectorSize = 512
Reserved = 1
Interleave = 0
LowCyl = 0
HighCyl = 79
Buffers = 5
BufMemType = 0
StackSize = 600
Priority = 10
GlobVec = -1
DosType = 0x4D534400

/* The Unit field is controlled by tooltypes in the PC0 icon.
 *
 * Unit = 0
 */


Bye,
Thomas


I'm trying to get this to work but I dont know how. I used 'ed' to create the file, But when I double click on the PC0 file i created it does not execute. Im using Workbench 2.05. The screen flashes black with the error at the top saying that there is no execute program or what ever it says when there is not a program to run the file. Any ideas?

Thanks :)
Title: Re: Workbenc 2.05 help
Post by: rkauer on March 18, 2007, 12:12:59 AM
Put this file in the DEVS:DosDrivers/ drawer and reboot the Amiga!
Title: Re: Workbenc 2.05 help
Post by: baz136 on March 18, 2007, 12:26:33 AM
sweet thanks, ill try that in a sec :)
Title: Re: Workbenc 2.05 help
Post by: Matt_H on March 18, 2007, 12:43:50 AM
I think Devs:DOSDrivers/ was only introduced with Workbench 2.1. If that's the case, you'll need to append the above onto your Devs:Mountlist file. Don't forget the # symbol at the end.
Title: Re: Workbenc 2.05 help
Post by: weirdami on March 18, 2007, 04:55:01 AM
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the disc with crossdos is corrupt


How much is it worth to you? I could sell you mine, manuals and all. I guess I should see if the disk works.
Title: Re: Workbenc 2.05 help
Post by: A4000_Mad on March 20, 2007, 02:36:12 PM
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I don't fully understand what your problem is


Welcome baz136

Yeah I tried to help with this before there were any replies, but couldn't figure out what you were actually asking. Eventually I gave up concluding that one of us must be under the alfluence of incohol :lol:

If I now get the gist of it, you are booting into an A1200 with Workbench 2.05 and trying to use PC0. You could also try putting 'fat95' into the L drawer of your Workbench floppy and double clicking on MS0 to read PC formatted floppy disks.

(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o164/Cyberstorm604e/MS0B.jpg)

This avoids all the jumbled up file names and under Workbench OS3.9 you actually get an icon for the floppy disk with a Windows logo on it :-)

A4000 Mad
Title: Re: Workbenc 2.05 help
Post by: Thomas on March 20, 2007, 04:50:10 PM
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You could also try putting 'fat95' into the L drawer of your Workbench floppy and double clicking on MS0 to read PC formatted floppy disks.


No, you can't. Fat95 needs mfm.device (or something similar) to read PC-formatted floppies. Mfm.device is part of CrossDOS. So if you don't have CrossDOS, Fat95 is of no help.

Bye,
Thomas
Title: Re: Workbenc 2.05 help
Post by: A4000_Mad on March 20, 2007, 07:22:39 PM
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Fat95 needs mfm.device


Well spotted mate. I've just fully checked this out and you do indeed need 'mfm.device' in the Devs drawer of your Workbench 2.05 floppy as well, together with 'fat95' in the L drawer and MS0 anywhere you like on the disk (just so that you can double click on it). Then remove your Workbench 2.05 floppy and insert a PC formatted floppy and you will get an icon for it. Not a 1.44MB disk for the A1200 though unless you have a special floppy drive. You can of course format Amiga disks in a PC running Windows 98 with the format capacity set to 720K. I know XP can't format a 720K disk but off the top of my head I'm not sure about ME or 2000.


BTW i like your avatar Thomas. It gives the impression that you have a shocking or very unusual problem, but then your post goes on to give hope  :-)

A4000 Mad
Title: Re: Workbenc 2.05 help
Post by: Flashlab on March 20, 2007, 07:28:56 PM
You can format 720k in XP!:

Just type

format a:  /t:80  /n:9

in CMD.
Title: Re: Workbenc 2.05 help
Post by: Amigaz on March 20, 2007, 07:33:27 PM
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Flashlab wrote:
You can format 720k in XP!:

Just type

format a:  /t:80  /n:9

in CMD.


And in Vista  :-D
Title: Re: Workbenc 2.05 help
Post by: A4000_Mad on March 20, 2007, 07:46:36 PM
 8-) In XP I had only tried to right click on A\: and select 720K capacity.

What is this Vista like then? The staff at my local computer shop said not to buy it for another 6 months or so as there were hardly any drivers for it at the moment.

A4000 Mad
Title: Re: Workbenc 2.05 help
Post by: Amigaz on March 20, 2007, 07:51:58 PM
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A4000_Mad wrote:
 8-) In XP I had only tried to right click on A\: and select 720K capacity.

What is this Vista like then? The staff at my local computer shop said not to buy it for another 6 months or so as there were hardly any drivers for it at the moment.

A4000 Mad


Vista runs great here but as you say drivers and file compatability is a problem, only prob is that Vista eats 500mb RAM just to boot :crazy:
The thing I like with Vista is the improved TCP/IP stack which gives me higher download/upload speeds compared to Win XP
But I've kept Win XP so I can boot it if it in case I want to use my M-Audio 24bit soundcard for recording my vinyl records to cd since there's no Vista drivers yet for it  :-(  
Title: Re: Workbenc 2.05 help
Post by: Tomas on March 20, 2007, 07:57:05 PM
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In XP I had only tried to right click on A\: and select 720K capacity.

You must have a weird version of XP then, because the 720k option is missing here even when you tape a HD disk or use a DD disk. The only way for me to format it is by using the manual command.
Title: Re: Workbenc 2.05 help
Post by: A4000_Mad on March 20, 2007, 08:17:46 PM
@AMIGAZ
Thanks for the Vista info.

@ Tomas
I think you misunderstood mate. I was saying that selecting 720K was the only thing I had tried to do. The option is of course missing from my XP as well.

A4000 Mad