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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: Ivanhoe on March 12, 2007, 01:52:50 PM
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Hi
My Amiga One is in a rare case.
Previously I post on the ASB-Computer threadAnd I only
got one response.
The thing is that I have it working until I power off and
disconnected the cables.Then I connected again and doesn`t
seem to work.This was a month and a half ago.
And now I checked the tower from inside and I see a green light on the CPU so it seems to work.The machine gives noise too and the X-Arcade joystick seems to work too,as
it has a red light.
They try to change the graphics card on a PC shop near to my house but the monitor doesn`t power on neither with the new ATI Radeon card.
So I need help,Anybody knows how to get it working my machine again ?
Thanks in advance.
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Could be a dead battery? Weirdly enough the AmigaOne won't boot if the battery is dead...
Try replacing it with a new one! :)
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Thanks stianstr
Maybe the battery... well,but where is the battery?
The battery is not the PSU,no?
If I could find where is the battery maybe I could replace it or give it a try on a electronic repair center near my
house.
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It's here:
(http://www.amigaweb.net/images/AmigaOne_Battery.jpg)
The battery is (AFAIK) of type:
CR2032 which is pretty common in PCs.
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I agree with the rest.. It is most likely the battery.
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by Ivanhoe on 2007/3/12 17:11:04
Thanks stianstr
Maybe the battery... well,but where is the battery?
The battery is not the PSU,no?
and that was the last we heard from this one, he electricuted the amigaone and hilm self while trying to fix the problem... rip...
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Ha ha... no I don´t feel electrified yet.
Thank you guy for the Amiga One CPU scheme it´s very helpful.
My Amiga One G3 is now on the repair center and
now I will wait one more week to see if they can fix it.
If not anybody knows another Amiga dealer on Spain or near
Spain?
I live near France so maybe there is a chance to repair outside Spain.
The only Amiga shop I know on Spain is ASB-Computer... :idea:
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AmigaCenter (http://www.amigacenter.com) is in France.
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I need to get round to changing mine - I bought one about 6 months ago, and havent got round to it yet !
getting irritating too, it took about 4 goes of switching the PSU off, back on, pressing the case power button, and hearing the HDD and CD whirr and clunk respectively, before watching the monitor to see if there was any output.
oh- nitpick moment, thats an SE motherboard, not an XE !
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My Amiga One G3 is now on the repair center and
now I will wait one more week to see if they can fix it.
Why did you not try replacing the battery before doing that? And is this repair center specialized in Amigas? If not, then they wont know what to do and might do more harm than good, since PC's does not have this problem when batteries run out.
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PC's does not have this problem when batteries run out.
The only case I've ever heard of battery running out with PC was with a motherboard that had a manufacturing defect (one diode was reversed, and the battery wasn't charged properly).
The motherboards got replaced for free.
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The only case I've ever heard of battery running out with PC was with a motherboard that had a manufacturing defect (one diode was reversed, and the battery wasn't charged properly).
I only had that happening once on an old PC which had been in use for roughly 7 years. On the AmigaOnes, some are changing batteries like others their underwear. :lol:
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Piru wrote:
The only case I've ever heard of battery running out with PC was with a motherboard that had a manufacturing defect (one diode was reversed, and the battery wasn't charged properly).
Well then I have another case for you. I recently had to replace the battery in my Asus A7v mainboard which is some estimated 4 years old. And it is not a rechargeable type, IIRC it was also an ordinary CR2032.
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OK I apreciatte the comments of everyone,but why the batteries run out on the Amiga Ones and not on the PCs?
I suppose I can get a new battery of the type CR2032 on a computer center or similar.
It`s frustrating to have something new that don´t response
to the expectatives while other computers like my Amiga 500
are still functioning quite well.
Anyway I trust on the repair center.The repair center is not specific of Amiga or PC is more like a center that repairs
computers,videos,TVs,etc..
As the center is more Hardware oriented than Amiga or other computer oriented,I see the possibility to give new life to my Amiga One.
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It`s frustrating to have something new that don´t response to the expectatives while other computers like my Amiga 500 are still functioning quite well.
Not extremely surprising though. The A500 was mass-produced hardware while the A1s where in fact buggy evaluation/"developer" boards by a small (and now defunct) company.
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I agree
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OK I apreciatte the comments of everyone,but why the batteries run out on the Amiga Ones and not on the PCs?
They both run out.. But a pc will boot up and work just fine even when the battery is drained. On the pc the battery is only used for keeping the clock going right and keeping the settings in the bios. Also on the pc the battery can often last for over 10 years, while the amigaone suffers from a odd problem that causes the battery to drain much more quickly.
Swapping the battery is not something you need to send it the computer for, it is something you can do yourself. Just pop out the battery and take it to a clock store or computer store and pop in the new one.. Someone already posted a picture where this battery is located. The battery does not cost most than a couple of bucks max either.
As the center is more Hardware oriented than Amiga or other computer oriented,I see the possibility to give new life to my Amiga One.
The problem is like i said that PC's dont behave the same way and that there is infact nothing wrong with your amigaone at all if it is the battery.
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I wouldn't call this battery behaviour OK. First of all it's pretty stupid design to rely on the battery for the system to function at all. Second, there is no reason why the battery shouldn't last equal time as with PC.
I would call it either bad design or manufacturing error.
AmigaOnes have had some components in wrong orientation/missing before.
The first measure we are announcing is that we have pledged ourselves to the production and development of a platform where both users and developers are guaranteed not just a quality product but a total quality experience as well. This will be achieved through a combination of a strict set of Quality Assurance certifications and the AmigaOS only being available to licensed solution providers for the shipping of combined hardware and software solutions.
From the top of the company to the bottom, we are committed to championing the cause of quality for the consumer and will ensure that substandard products do not make it into the Amiga market where they can do irreparable damage to the reputation of the platform. Licencees will have to develop and resource a full customer solution, with guarantees on product quality, delivery, and most important of all post sales support, with firm commitments to repair, replacement and turnaround, elements that have blighted the platform over the last five years.
That much for the "quality control".
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I would call it either bad design or manufacturing error.
That is exactly what it is. But there is sadly not much one can do about this, considering that neither eyetech or mai logic exist anymore.
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Yeah they talk about quality,the ZICO specification that would be the mark of quality of this computer,technical support,reparation and availability of parts... and...
where are now ? why doesn`t Eyetech or MAI Logic exists
anymore?
Maybe the Amiga One users we must call Amiga companies
and ask them to support a platform that for me at least is new and we must support to keep the illusion of some Amiga
One owners.
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Tomas wrote:
there is sadly not much one can do about this
You could still replace the CR2032 with two size D batteries :crazy:
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Colani1200 wrote:
Tomas wrote:
there is sadly not much one can do about this
You could still replace the CR2032 with two size D batteries :crazy:
sounds like a cunning plan ! :idea:
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The battery was replaced by a similar battery to the CR2032
and the machine doesn`t seem to work on an electronic center.This time the monitor gives light,before doesn´t
gives light on the leds,but the U-Boot sequence does not appear on the screen.As I say the day before yesterday evaluating the machine the monitor didn´t give light.
This was yesterday afternoon on the repair center as I mentioned before,the evaluation of the battery.
OK,so the battery dóesn´t seem to be the problem
Could it be a problem on the G3 CPU.
Maybe in the near future someone will tell me the thruth
cause I don´t know at all.