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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: MickTheLip on March 04, 2007, 11:32:11 PM
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Bought myself the above on EBay.Now I need to know how to install them onto my Amiga 1200.I've got the origional software but can't work out how to use it.HELP!!!!!
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I've installed the software but not sure how to access/mount the CDrom I've never had any experience with scsi software/hardware on the Amiga before!!
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Hmmm..... This would connect to the PCMCIA slot of an A1200 so I guess you are using a right angled gadget? It also looks like you already have a CDrom in your A1200 Tower. So I guess you are using IDE fix or EIDE fix? If so, you should be able to use 'Find Device' in the IDE fix drawer to locate your CD-Rom and find out its unit number. Tick the box 'Show All Device Types' before clicking on 'Scan'. It should show up under 'squirrelscsi.device'. You should also see the unit number of the new device.
It is then a matter of having the correct dos drive in Workbench:Devs/DOSDrivers. You can probably make a copy of and then modify the driver CD0 or CD1 that makes your current CDrom work.
Can you tell us anything else that might help us to help you? :-)
A4000 Mad
EDIT - I may have wrongly assumed that the Squirrel interface and CD-Rom were for the A1200 in your sig. If it is for an A1200 Desktop then kindly disregard this post :lol:
G'night :sleep:
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Sorry I'm using A1200 desktop with Squirrel interface to add the CDrom.I've installed the software that came with it.There is a SCSIMounter tool but when I run this it shows no SCSI hardware at all.Could this be because of termination problems or what?
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:lol: :lol: :lol:
I was right that I was wrong. Sorry but I really have to go to bed now. I'll try to be of help tomorrow in the unlikely event that no-one else has :-)
A4000 Mad
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Just quickly before I put my tired brain cell to bed.........
If you have an IDE fix drawer in your A1200 Tower, bring the whole drawer or just 'Find Device'to the A1200 Desktop on a floppy disk. Find out what you can as per my post above.
That'll teach me not to stay up half the night watching the moon :lol:
G'night,
A4000 Mad
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Hi Mick. Congrats on finding the Squirrel. A darn good piece of equipment.
If you've installed the Squirrelprogram, then you're halfway.
Is there a CD0 in your DEVS drawer? Take it out of STORAGE if its not there. From the WB, click once on CD0, and choose info from the icon menu. The device and unit# of your CDdrive should be listed. Write squirrelscsi.device and whatever unit number your CD is and then save.
edit: of course, the last device in the SCSI chain HAS to be terminated.
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I've been investigating the power supply which appears to be working fine.Its when the power enters the custom made interface on the rear of the CDrom that things go wrong.I cannot find any power showing up on the molex connector which connects the custom interface to the CDrom.
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It's suddenly started working again! When I I use the SCSI Mounter progrm that is part of the Squirrel software it does not show the CDRom.I'm not sure if this is down to having no terminator or if its the wiring on the custom inerface?If there is no terminator could this be the problem and what number should I set the jumpers to on the SCSI chain baring in mind that for the present I'll only be using the CDRom on the Squirrel interface.
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Having left the power on the CDRom is still able to eject and load CD's.The programme for installing the CDrom which is in the Squirrel software does not find it.Could this be due to needing a terminator.The manual says the CDRom is numbered as 3 should I change it?The other question is about the SCSI cable sockets on the back of the Power CDRom.There are 2 female SCSI sockets on the back but which 1 do I need to plug the Squirrel into and I presume the terminator goes into the other SCSI socket.
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If all you have connected to your A1200 is the CD drive, then there is no need to worry about what unit number the CD is set to. Its when you have different items like ZIP drives and scanners hooked up, that you have to make sure that each device has a different number. At the end of the chain, you have to terminate it.
1200===CD===terminator
1200===scanner===CD====terminator
1200===CD===scanner===Zip===terminator
It doesn't matter which port on the CDDrive you put the SquirrelSCSI and the terminator.
Again, make sure that your CD0 in your DEVS/DOSDRIVERS drawer is listed with SQUIRRELSCSI.DEVICE and has the same unit number as the CDdrive.
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Thanks for all the information.Will have to find a terminator.By adding a terminater will the Squirrel interface then recognise the CDRom?
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Just thought I've got a SCSI Sony CD-RW Rom in a Pentium 3 PC.Would it be possible to exchange it for the CDRom that is in the Power CDRom case.Just a thought I had if I terminated the Power Computing CDRom and it did'nt show up in the software that comes with the Squirrel.
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here is the procedure to fit a scsi squirrel cd & software.
switch off amiga connect scsi squirrel into pcmcia slot
plug into scsi cd.
the early type has a seperate pwr supply, later type is built in, switch on pwr, then switch on amiga.
insert software disc 1
it will then recognize your cd device a window will popup
showing your device in the right hand side click once & save,when finnished,it should have put a cdo icon in your sys/devices/drivers drawer it should also have named it CD2 OR CD3 , click once & choose info, in the tooltypes you will see UNIT=0 change this to 2 or 3 save,
then double click the cd icon to mount it.
put in your cd & you should see it on your wb screen (hopefully)
NOTE you have to have the scsi cd plugged in & switched on BEFORE you switch on the amiga.
hope this helps you out.
mike
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Thanks for all your info.When installing it gets as far as the window which lists the Squirrel SCSI in the left column but does not show up the CDrom in the right column.The CDrom opens and closes on pressing the eject button and after closing spins up and the light comes on briefly.My Power CD rom is the one with the external power supply but it has been replaced with a multivoltage one.Does anybody know what voltage the origional power supply was?It places an Icon for CD0 in my devs draw but altering it to the numbers suggested still doesnot recognise my CDrom!!
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@ twizzle
Sorry if this duplicates what you have said but your post was not here when I went off to continue working on this in an A1200 Desktop.
Hi Mick,
Well I did threaten to return :lol: You could have a hardware problem by the sounds of it, but a ramble and a few screenshots might help you or somebody somewhere with something
My one of these.............
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o164/Cyberstorm604e/squirrel.jpg)
.......... plugs into the bottom socket of this Sony CDrom.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o164/Cyberstorm604e/CDrom.jpg)
I have no jumpers to set and nothing goes in the top socket (yours is probably a lot different by the sounds of it and may indeed need a terminator). I can only push in the tiny buttons to increase or lower the unit ID number. It is currently set to 3.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o164/Cyberstorm604e/FindDevice.png)
In the above screengrab I have used 'FindDevice' taken out the 'IDE Fix 97' drawer in an A4000 Desktop. I simply ticked the box 'Show All Device Types' and then clicked on 'Scan'. On the left you can see that the CDrom is showing up as a 'squirrelscsidevice' and on the right as Unit 3 in the list. You might want to *check* that you do have 'squirrelscsi.device' in Workbench:Devs
NOTE that I have not used 'FindDevice' for any setting up purposes. It is just a good way of checking that your A1200 can see your CDrom on the PCMCIA slot. *All* you need to get your CDrom working is a CD0 icon in Workbench:Devs/DOSDrivers that is set to the correct device type and unit number.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o164/Cyberstorm604e/CD0-Edit.png)
The above screengrab shows what Amiduffer was telling you about. i.e. clicking once on the CD0 icon, selecting information from the menu and changing the unit number and device type.
However, it appears that doing this only changes the 'CD0.info' file and not the mounlist of CD0 itself. Below is the mountlist viewed in DirectoryOpus. So you need to make sure that the bottom two lines are correct in something like DirectoryOpus as well. i.e.
* Device = squirrelscsi.device
* Unit = 3
Oh... the icon CF0 that is also in the screengrab is for working a Compact Flash card in the PCMCIA slot.
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o164/Cyberstorm604e/DopusReadCD0.png)
I guess I should finish off with a screengrab showing the icons of an inserted OS3.9 CD. And for newbies or those interested, the great game icons are what you get when you use the WHDLoad installers :-)
(http://i120.photobucket.com/albums/o164/Cyberstorm604e/OS3.png)
Possibly remotely interesting stuff:-
The screengrabs were taken using CyberGrab on a ToolsDaemon menu so as not to take a grab showing the prog itself. The ILBM screengrabs were then loaded into PPaint and coverted to PNG with maximum compression. The PNG files were then put onto a Compact Flash card and taken to a USB card reader on this PC. (I had to remove the Squirrel and CDrom so as to be able to insert the Compact Flash card into the PCMCIA slot of the A1200 Desktop of course)
Well that's my brain cell exhausted for today.
G'night :sleep:
A4000 Mad
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Thanks for all your information.For some reason the software is not reading the CDrom.This shows up when I run the CD configeration program which is included inthe Squirrel software.The program inserts a CD0 into the devs draw and whose information I've changed to what your screengrab shows but it has the added line of FLAGS=1 Each attempt of reinstalling the the software rewrites the CD0 information back to
Activate=1
Device=cd.device
UNIT=0
FLAGS=1
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Looking at the back of my Power CDrom it is not too different.Mine has a powerpack input 2sets of audio sockets and the unit number is changed by jumpers on the CDrom itself.The manual says that the CD rom is suposed to be terminated internally and the unit number is set as 3.I am very suspicious of the drive being brcken but most drives show up even if they cannot read the CD don't they
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Yes a drive with no CD inserted or one that cannot read a CD due to a faulty lens prehaps, should still show up...... unless it is completely broken.
I've just sent FindDevice and a copy of the CD0 that works my CDrom to the e-mail address in your profile as LHA files. Hope that is of some help :-)
Hmmm... After looking again at the mountlist in the screengrab above, prehaps you should just check that you have 'CDFileSystem' in the L drawer of your Workbench as CD0 will look for it.
FileSystem = L:CDFileSystem
A4000 Mad
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I had a similar problem with mine.
I got the install disk (latest one) here;
http://amiga.resource.cx/exp/search.pl?amiga=1200&cat=scsi
I installed in novice mode and it worked, been fine ever since!
As a side note, it only ever works automatically if you install in novice mode, in my experience of the squirrel.
I hope this helps...
:-D
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hi look at a4000 mad`s piccys,in the find device window you can see the scsi cd is listed No3 sony click once on it & save.
when finnished change CDO to CD3 save.
cd icon info tooltypes UNIT=0 change to UNIT=3 save.
you wont see a scsi cd icon permanly on your wb screen until you put a cd in , :-)
there is a CD0 icon in your scsi drawer this is for using CD32 games.
in disc 1 there are all the readme files needed to help you setup your device.
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Thanks to everybody for all your help but sorry to say I now believe the CDRom is broken.I am thinking of removing the CDRom out of the case and installing a Sony CDRW in its place.I'm thinking that the origional interface found in the case would plug straight into my CDRW.I could then use the terminator on the other socket.Will have to check first to see if I can alter or change the number on the CDRW I presume.
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hi, dont condem your scsi cd yet?
having had the same problem a few weeks ago,
i found that my scsi connector was faulty :-(
luckily i had a spare to try and my cd was then recognized
& now works :-)
(hopefully my friend can repair the faulty 1)
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Make sure you haven't bent some pins in the PCMCIA slot. This certainly happens with the Surf Squirrel as it doesnt quite line up with the slot on the 1200.
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The software recognises the Squirrel interface so I would think that end of things at the PCMCIA are fine.I'm now looking for another SCSI CD/RW to see if that will work.If I can get an external one all the better as I'll have spares to play around with.Going to have to wait on EBay as getting one from around this area is hopeless.
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In the meantime I'm going to reinstall everything from scratch.It's at this point I realise another possible problem.I was told it was OK to install Workbench 3.1 on my 1200 which has 3.00 roms.I read on a Ebay sellers auction that the Squirrel needed to be installed on 3.1 roms.This sounds wrong as it can also be used on a A600 in all the documents I've read.I've got a set of 3.1 roms which I can install if necessary but I was going to wait untill I got another SCSI CDrom or better still a CDRW.
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You DON'T NEED 3.1 ROMs to run a Squirrel.
I've had one once upon a time. But running WB 3.1 on 3.0 ROMs could make a mess on your handlers....
Try install a clean 3.0 OS before any funny modifications.