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Title: Aminet and file substitutions!
Post by: Jose on February 27, 2007, 05:46:26 PM
Probably the best way to know is to ask them directly but since this is of global interest I though I'd make this thread.
I've recently tried to get reqtools.library and I noticed that older versions completely vanished. This must be generalized, because some time ago I tried to get a version of SongPlayer and couldn't find but the more recent/buggier/more bloated version that doesn't run so well on classic machines to say the least (anyone got it working at all ?)

Is this on purpose or just some bad decision making/lack of time ? Is there any place these files are being kept ?
Title: Re: Aminet and file substitutions!
Post by: cgutjahr on February 27, 2007, 06:27:15 PM
@Jose:

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Is this on purpose or just some bad decision making/lack of time ?

Aminet's policy always was that the uploader/author decides what happens with his package: If he uploads a newer version with the same filename, or uses the Replaces: directive in his readme header, the older package gets removed from Aminet.

This policy stems from a time where (the lack of) diskspace was an issue, but there are actually other good reasons to handle the issue like that:

1. The software on Aminet is the property of the respective authors, we're just hosting it. If an uploader wants to have its package removed, renamed or turned upside down there's not much we can do about it. I guess many developers actually prefer to have only the most recent version of their package available, because it simplifies support and forces you to report bugs instead of silently reverting back to an older version.

2. There's no infrastructure in place (yet, see below) that could be used for storing older revisions of a package without messing up the standard dir structure. Aminet is a mess that badly needs some cleanup anyway, with 15 different ports (from different authors) of wget, 5 versions of apache etc. - keeping old, deprecated packages in the same tree would make things even worse.

That said, we do have plans to make older packages available seperately, e.g. in a special repository that keeps track of different versions etc. But how (and when) this is going to be implemented exactly is unclear as of yet, and our todo list is rather long by now.

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Is there any place these files are being kept ?

Since early 2005, removed packages are no longer deleted but moved to a storage directory. They are not available to the public though.
Title: Re: Aminet and file substitutions!
Post by: Amiduffer on February 27, 2007, 08:10:16 PM
Surely, some of the older Aminet CD's should have older versions?
Title: Re: Aminet and file substitutions!
Post by: zipper on February 28, 2007, 04:38:23 PM
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Is there any place these files are being kept ?


My collection of Aminet CDs - sets 1-3 and CDs 10-52 :roll:
Title: Re: Aminet and file substitutions!
Post by: Wol on February 28, 2007, 06:03:09 PM
@jose


I use SongPlayer 1.53 on A4000, it's sooooo fast.

PM me if you want it .


Wol.

Title: Re: Aminet and file substitutions!
Post by: AmigaMance on February 28, 2007, 06:56:29 PM
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This must be generalized, because some time ago I tried to get a version of SongPlayer and couldn't find but the more recent/buggier/more bloated version that doesn't run so well on classic machines to say the least (anyone got it working at all ?)

 It runs without problems here, it's just much slower than SongPlayer 1.53 but has support for .ogg files.

EDIT: Speaking about the availability of older file versions on aminet, i installed the new TextEditor MUI class today and it messed up my keybindings completely. I launch the MUI preferences to restore them manually but after i restore my settings, it corrupts them again.
 Luckily, i make frequent backup of my system partition and i copied v15.19 of this class back on my MUI classes directory.
Title: Re: Aminet and file substitutions!
Post by: Jose on February 28, 2007, 08:36:47 PM
@cgutjahr
Right, I guess it's up to the authors then...

@Wol
I got it for some time now too, it rules:) I was just giving it as an example cause it wasn't there when I tried to get it.