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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: mikerus on February 22, 2007, 12:28:08 AM
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Hi all. I've just unearthed an old a600 from my childhood and have been playing all my old games. Having searched the web and these forums i'm not sure it's possible but does anyone know if I can download roms on my PC and get them working on my actual a600. cheers for your help.
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Not unless magically, you can put physical ROM chips through the internet. :lol:
No, the only way is either buying the Rom chip, or burning the OS onto EPROMs.
If your 600 is working, why get bother with getting new ones?
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Amiduffer wrote:
If your 600 is working, why get bother with getting new ones?
This might be a crazy guess on my part, but I'm guessing maybe if he wanted to run os3.x perchance? Or maybe his A600 is one of the unfortunate ones with 2.05 Rev 37.299 - this would prevent the use of the onboard IDE, though even if that isn't a problem it's always a good thing to update from 2.x to 3.x, the old games that rely on 1.x and the OCS are already gonna be incompatible with 2.x so you may as well be up to date.
Anyway, either look on ebay or check out www.amigakit.com, they'll have A600 kickstart 3.1 ROMs in stock - make sure you get the 600 ones though, there are differences between the roms for the different Amigas.
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The KS 3.x ROM is 1MB in size, so if you have extra ram you can "soft kick" your A600 to run KS3.0 or KS3.1. All you need is a utility such as relokick and the KS 3.x ROM image. Only trouble is, you would have to load this disk every time you want to use Workbench 3 stuff. Easier option is do as Marco said and buy the A600 3.1 ROM.
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He might also mean download game disks and transfer. Some people call games roms, lol
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TjLaZer wrote:
He might also mean download game disks and transfer. Some people call games roms, lol
I think so too. :)
Best way I went about this was using a DD disk over to the amiga to use PC2Ami or whatever that program was called on Aminet, then I had a parallel cable to transfer whatever I wanted. Though this may be tuff if you dont have an expanded A600 with at least 2MB.
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download the ADF disk images. Burn them to a CD
and use ADFtoDISK ON YOUR AMIGA, available from AMINET.
peace of cake.
unless of course you dont have a cd drive for the A600.
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Or just buy Cloanto's AmigaExplorer and serial null-modem cable! :-D
All you need is in the package! A cheap software, a peecee and the "ROMs" :lol: (ADF's in truth).
Oh, and a bunch of blank disks.
:-D
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Simple sneakernet solution: Format a 720k disk, copy a zipped ADF to the disk, should fit. Transfer the Zip to the A600 and copy to RAM* and unzip. Then write the ADF to disk. Can be done easily. You have to have CrossDOS or other PC file system driver on your WB disk. Also copy ADF2DISK to it as well.
* recommend 2MB Chip RAM on A600 for this to go smoothly, but 1MB should suffice.
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Having searched the web and these forums i'm not sure it's possible but does anyone know if I can download roms on my PC and get them working on my actual a600. cheers for your help.
By roms i guess you mean games? Then yes, you can download some files amiga disk files with extension .adf and these can then be copied over to your amiga and be used to make a real floppy out of these images.
What kind of workbench do you have on your a600? You can read standard 720k dos formatted floppies on your amiga if you have WB 2.1 or higher. You have to use a null modem cable if you have wb 2.05 or below.
Here are some adf games released legally for free with the permission of the orginal game publisher/dev: http://amiga.emucamp.com/g_dl_a.htm (http://amiga.emucamp.com/g_dl_a.htm)
Here is another site with all amiga released team17 games: http://www.dream17.co.uk/ (http://www.dream17.co.uk/)
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Thanks for your replies guys. You're right, I meant games. Sorry about the confusion. I've got workbench 2.1. So how do I go about getting an .adf file to run on my amiga? Are all amiga disks 720k? I can't tell the difference between these and my 1.44Mb floppies for my PC. And how do I format the disks? Thanks again for all this help guys.
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amiga disk files are 880ks. you need to compress them before writing to floppy.
cover the empty hole on a 1.44 floppy with a sticker (not the write protection hole). format the disk with the command
format /T:80 /N:9 a:
on your windows. get lha from aminet. get adf2disk from aminet. extract these on your pc and put them into your floppy. get a adf and compress it with lha. put it into floppy. now boot workbench and put your floppy into your a600. put the lha somewhere on your path (usually, workbench:c). extract the adf file to ram: (well, anywhere else is also ok.). put a formatted floppy into drive. write the adf to disk with the adf2disk command.
when you get tired with all compressing and stuff, get yourself one of these (http://cgi.ebay.com/New-PCMCIA-to-Compact-Flash-Adapter-PC-Card-CF-Reader_W0QQitemZ150093932855QQihZ005QQcategoryZ48545QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem). you can read compact flash cards on your amiga with the help of cfd and fat95 utilities found on aminet. a600 is a great kit for writing adfs.
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There are PCMCIA CF card readers bundled with software for Amiga for transfering files like this one (http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=440&osCsid=8214b5a03352689ec8601df26f1034f5) if you want to take the easy way out...
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Thanks Countzero this seems like what I'm after. I've formatted my floppy disk and i've downloaded adf2disk.lha from aminet. What do you mean when you say 'get lha'? Is this a windows program for compressing? If I search aminet for lha i just get lots of files with extension .lha. Or do I need a .lha file for each .adf file? Sorry about this but I really don't know what i'm talking about! Thanks again for all your help guys.
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lha is a file compression tool for the amiga. think of it like zip or rar for the amiga. you can get lha here (http://aminet.net/package/util/arc/lha_68k). just get the file file lha_68k from that archive and rename it to lha.
Creating a lha archive at windows can be tricky. try this :
you have the adf2disk.lha downloaded from aminet right ? make a copy of it. open that archive with your favorite windows archive tool. put your adf inside. remove the adf2diskrelated files. now you have a lha file containing your adf.
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mikerus wrote:
Thanks Countzero this seems like what I'm after. I've formatted my floppy disk and i've downloaded adf2disk.lha from aminet. What do you mean when you say 'get lha'? Is this a windows program for compressing? If I search aminet for lha i just get lots of files with extension .lha. Or do I need a .lha file for each .adf file? Sorry about this but I really don't know what i'm talking about! Thanks again for all your help guys.
http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/software/amiga/compression/lhA_e138.run (http://www.chebucto.ns.ca/software/amiga/compression/lhA_e138.run)
lha is basically the zip/rar format of the amiga world..
I believe winrar and winace supports lha as well.
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Right I think I'm getting there. I have one .lha file containing adf2disk and a an .adf file of my game. Do I need to archive lha.lha into this file as well? You're also going to have to explain to me what to do with all of these files on my amiga in simpler terms than before. Really sorry but I'm a bit thick as you may have already worked out. Lol! Thanks so much for all your help. I'm really excited about playing some of the old games I've lost the disks for. Cheers.
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no, you need to keep lha as executable, so you can run it.
As I said, copy lha to workbench:c (here workbench signifies whatever you called your system partition). then you copy the lha archive containing your adf to somewhere on your hd, and run the command "lha e your_file.lha"
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If you have a harddrive in your A600, you're probably way better off transferring files via parallel null modem than by floppy. And the added bonus of using Amiga internet software over internet connection sharing.