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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: Starke on February 19, 2007, 01:34:24 AM
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Ok Ladies and gentlemen, lets get out the boing balls and get them rolling!
Does anyone have a clue on the happenings of OS5?
Also, is there at all a future for Amiga, or are all of you expecting it to become another dead platform and company in a few years time?
I wanna hear peoples negativity, as not many of you see any positives, im sure this will be easy to retrieve in this posting!
Now, lets get down to some other things, I believe Amiga will still be alive in 10 years time, and If we are all lucky, with OS4 OS5 and maybe even an OS6, and that the Amiga Niche Market will start growing, this is what I forsee happening, all those who beg to differ, let the world Of Amiga.org know.
By the way, I really believe this is where certain members negativity can shine in this posting, so please, by all means, go NUTS!
Cheers!!
And have fun posting!
P.S.Anyone who knows any LINKS for OS5 that are useful information, please post them on this thread!
Cheers again!! 8-) 8-)
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starke your crazy!.....far as i know Bill's got 0S5 designers programmers silenced. sounds like the improvements mac made till they got their latest final ver. of mac os. I see us around, surviving without any real direction yet not abandoned entirely. like i said the other night, the software will move on but the hardware.....that's another question. :-(
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And have fun posting!
Hey some forums from over there!!
http://www.amiga.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2566&highlight=amiga+os5
P.S.Anyone who knows any LINKS for OS5 that are useful information, please post them on this thread!
Cheers again!! 8-) 8-) [/quote]
Hey heres a thread from over there!
http://www.amiga.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=2566&highlight=amiga+os5
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@Zyphoid And Beyond:
Thank you, you gotta be a little crazy!
I see, so you think that Amiga Inc has already planned OS5 to simply run on PC hardware and MAc Hardware???
Also, I think, theres a chance they want to try and over ride the other Operating Systems out there.
To do this, I wonder how legal it is?Like If they manage to be able to get OS5 Running all Mac and Windows software on it, as well as their own Amiga software on it, how legal is that?
Anyway, things happen, besides, legal or not legal, once it slips onto the market, even the black market trades may start happening if a product like that existed!
One way or another, it'd get out there!
Lets see what future joy rides we could all be having with Amiga. I cant wait for my next joy ride, how about you guys and gals out there??
Cheers!! 8-) 8-)
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even better link
yea legally cross platfom don't mean squat so long as the operative native software isn't compromised or changed.
remember the old os/2 win 95 battles... and even now mac's got bootcamp that emulates pc's with aros morph ect, linux and its open sources I would love it if we did cross platform. And whats the deal with Sony? they are entertaining talks at least that is the rumor.
http://www.convergence.org/platforms/amiga/futuresoft.html
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@zyphoid:
Talk to me man, is it true, that Sony and Amiga Inc may make a deal, due to the Wii winning over the sony's playstation, and the fact that sony is not allowed to use what the wii is using for PS4???
Maybe Amiga inc and sony are working on OS5 to accept PS3 and new PS4 games, and allow Amiga and sony PS4 to use something like virtual reality??
Let us know Any site information or links you have on the topic. For that matter, if you find any information regarding any deals Amiga Inc may be making with bigger companies, post them here.
THE AMIGA COMMUNITY DESERVE TO KNOW.
Cheers Bud, your turning out to be a ledgend already! 8-) 8-)
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I find it highly unlikely that Sony would "tarnish" it's image by associating with likes of Amiga Inc. (Given Amiga Inc.'s current form, holdings, players, reputation, status and etc.)
Regards,
AmigaEd
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well then dude your gonna really like this!!!
Sony to licence OS4
Hyperion fans break out the alcohol-free champagne (guaranteed not to cause suicides with 90% of anti-depressants) as Sony accept Hyperion's AmigaOS clone. OS4 will be bundled with the Playstation 3 beginning early 2007. Despite costing over 100 USD more than planned because of this bundling deal, Sony expect PS3's sales to be heavier than ever due to OS4 and its huge fanbase.
think i'll keep the link to myself 4now! ;-)
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ill believe this BULLCRAP when i see it...
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think about it..how else are we going to get our hands on the now coveted 3.2ghz chip you know the one mac didnt get and consequently abandoned in light of intels. with an engine (ps3) running at that speed and the software optimized for it wow now I'll get one! gee, where does this leave A1...assuming the deal goes through! :getmad:
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@zyphoid:
Well then, you may as well share the link with us.
I mean, many on here, if this link that your hiding actually exists, would be in awe.
And maybe they would start to actually be quiet and more useful towards Amiga's future!
Anyway, many here have been very useful in the past! Hopefull in the future thay can still be of use when Amiga starts growing again!
Cheers!! 8-) 8-)
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Oh yeah, and one more thing, Ive actually read it somewhere also, whereby sony and Amiga were having talks with one another!
Just search the net is the best bet! 8-) 8-)
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HAHAHAHAHA.
The ps3 has layer that prevents direct hardware comms with the O.S. it's called the Hypervisor. Sony isnt allowing anyone direct access to MOST of the playstation 3's hardware. including the SPE's and the Nvidia RSX or the RSX RAM.
Even if somehow this actually took off.
(which would make me jerk off quite severely)
I dont think SONY would give Hyperion access to it.
OR anyone else for that matter. but i could be wrong.
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@mikrucio you may have a point there
anyway boys here goes the link i found it on....
http://pulp.wrongpla.net/news/article168.html?4fed30b7941e1f408326e3b2d365a103=c2e0443ef17d0a8793eb7045de358507
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Interesting.
Any reason for it to be called wrong planet???
By any chance, is it the fact that its not the most accurate information??
Cheers! 8-) 8-)
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Hey peoples:
http://tech-head.com/amiga.htm
restart my pc i must
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good point didn't see any news passed 2006 i emailed sony and hyperion directly! lets see what political ans. i get keep you posted
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Read it and be amazed.
http://www.jameswoodcock.co.uk/?m=20060808
Its a sign, that what I say may be true, even if sony doesnt agree with Amiga being allowed to use sony games on Amiga, sonay has no choice, as the games can be directly played on an Amiga system.
People Please read the whole article before commenting, thank you.
P.S.I told you guys theres a chance sony and Amiga may have to make a deal! Also because of the wii situation may just have helped Amiga's status for sony, regardless of it being a Niche market!
Cheers!! 8-) 8-)
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Edited by Argo :Personal Attack
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Starke wrote:
Read it and be amazed.
http://www.jameswoodcock.co.uk/?m=20060808
People Please read the whole article before commenting, thank you.
As a muician who started on the Amiga, I know all about MOD's... I have no idea what this has to the fever induced delirium that is otherwise known as OS5...
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Does anyone have a clue on the happenings of OS5?
Do you? Or even better, do you have any clues on the OS4 sellings/reviews from customers?
Also, is there at all a future for Amiga, or are all of you expecting it to become another dead platform and company in a few years time?
Let me consult the crystal ball...
Now, lets get down to some other things, I believe Amiga will still be alive in 10 years time, and If we are all lucky, with OS4 OS5 and maybe even an OS6, and that the Amiga Niche Market will start growing, this is what I forsee happening, all those who beg to differ, let the world Of Amiga.org know.
As a fortuneteller, you are great. Now you must also practice some voodoo (not the gfx card;-) ), to make sure all this happens.
By the way, I really believe this is where certain members negativity can shine in this posting, so please, by all means, go NUTS!
You have already gone NUTS, that's enough for all of us here.
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AmigaOS 5 was supposed to be a hosted environment that could work on top of another operating system or an unhosted native version. (According to the now blocked Q&A session with Fleecy Moss on AmigaWorld.net .) It would work on any processor and allow cross-platform development for other operating systems but require the native OS for maximum performance.
My thoughts: Not needed any more now that Java 6 is out and open-sourced. Now we just need an OS 4 version of Java, a decent web browser, and new hardware to run OS 4 on. Also, SDL is very cross-platform compliant but still requires a recompile of the source to work on other platforms. If a build system based on Java or LLVM could make SDL apps binary compatible between platforms we'd have something.
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@SamuraiCrow :
So, I thought OS5 was going to be a standalone OS that can run on any platform, and computer system, ie PC, or MAC or Amiga Hardware??
Also, when you say hosted environemnt, do you mean, one needs to have another OS underneath it?? And if so, that'd be crap wouldnt it, I mean, what about those of us that would want to run OS5 on its own??
Cheers!!
And yes, I agree with you, Cant wait till the new hardware hits the shelves.
Mr.Hardware man Russ will be pleased, as I am eagerly awaiting!! 8-) 8-)
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@Cass:
Lovely insightedness from you part there!
Tell me, do you give your brain a workout, or does this stuff come natural to you??
Cheers!!
P.S.Read various other posts on here, and you'll realise most of them have given some type of answer on what they believe is happening or may happen, or so forth! 8-) 8-)
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Starke wrote:
@Cass:
Lovely insightedness from you part there!
Tell me, do you give your brain a workout, or does this stuff come natural to you??
Cheers!!
P.S.Read various other posts on here, and you'll realise most of them have given some type of answer on what they believe is happening or may happen, or so forth! 8-) 8-)
You tell 'em dude!
OS5 will be out REAL SOON NOW!!!!
JUST TWO MORE WEEKS!!!!!!!
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@ Shillard:
WOW man, you've just blown me away there, are you feeling ok?
This is the first time your actually with me, glad to see it, read it and hear it.
Thanks bro!
Have a nice Day! 8-) 8-)
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Bloodline:
My point was only to point out that, Amiga system can play sony stuff, whether sony wants or allows us to or not, we can play it!
Cheers!!
Hence theres a bigger chance that sony may either see this as a good thing, and join, or maybe even buy out Amiga Inc, and make Amiga big again??
Call it, Sony Amiga Systems??
Or if they decide to be with Amiga inc, then that would be great too!
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Starke wrote:
Bloodline:
My point was only to point out that, Amiga system can play sony stuff, whether sony wants or allows us to or not, we can play it!
Cheers!!
Only a Sony PS3 can play PS3 software. And, until someone writes a PS3 emulator (and AMD/intel processors get a bit more powerful), only a PS3 will play PS3 software.
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OK then, whatever, I must've mis read some articles then.
Anyway, is CD32Freak, hnl_dk, Jd997Uk, IKIR, KAY, SEER, MAD, Elektr, are these people still on these forums??
Just curious, as I saw some postings from a while back, and i think I vaguely remember IKIR!!
Anyway, for some reason my 1060 sidecar isnt being recognised by my A1000. SO Im going to have to pul it apart again on the weekend, DAMN IT!
Maybe I jsut need to re attach something, Ill check that the AST Rampage and EasyFix ECH-30+ HD cards are still plugged in properly while im at it.
Im thinking it may be the connection between the A1000 and the 1060 sidecar from the side of the A1000???
ANyway, hope it all gets working again on weekend!!
Just to save me from having to read, hey bloodline, do you know if I can run Workbench 3.1 on my A1000?? Thats assuming I can get my sidecar working, then I'll end up upgrading my A1000 a bit for fun, while a wait for the new HArdware to come out for OS4 or OS5, whichever happens!
Cheers!! 8-) 8-)
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Starke wrote:
OK then, whatever, I must've mis read some articles then.
Anyway, is CD32Freak, hnl_dk, Jd997Uk, IKIR, KAY, SEER, MAD, Elektr, are these people still on these forums??
Just curious, as I saw some postings from a while back, and i think I vaguely remember IKIR!!
Anyway, for some reason my 1060 sidecar isnt being recognised by my A1000. SO Im going to have to pul it apart again on the weekend, DAMN IT!
Maybe I jsut need to re attach something, Ill check that the AST Rampage and EasyFix ECH-30+ HD cards are still plugged in properly while im at it.
Im thinking it may be the connection between the A1000 and the 1060 sidecar from the side of the A1000???
ANyway, hope it all gets working again on weekend!!
Just to save me from having to read, hey bloodline, do you know if I can run Workbench 3.1 on my A1000?? Thats assuming I can get my sidecar working, then I'll end up upgrading my A1000 a bit for fun, while a wait for the new HArdware to come out for OS4 or OS5, whichever happens!
Cheers!! 8-) 8-)
I'm pretty sure you can't install the 3.1 ROMs into the A1000 as commodore never built ROMS for it... though perhaps some A500 ROMS might fit?
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NEWS RELEASE: Hyperion releases OS 5 to run on Commodore 64(with SuperCPU) with Vic compatibility. Also said to be timex sinclair compatible. :crazy:
I may have misread some of the article, I don't believe the part about Timex. :lol:
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Starke wrote:
@SamuraiCrow :
So, I thought OS5 was going to be a standalone OS that can run on any platform, and computer system, ie PC, or MAC or Amiga Hardware??
Also, when you say hosted environemnt, do you mean, one needs to have another OS underneath it?? And if so, that'd be crap wouldnt it, I mean, what about those of us that would want to run OS5 on its own??
It was supposed to have a native version ALSO and yield maximum performance under the native OS but still support other OSs.
Anyway, there is an effort by the maintainers of OpenGL to come out with a new API for handheld devices called OpenKODE 1.0 (http://www.khronos.org/news/press/releases/rel41.html) . It is really redundant to have a hosted OS when you can have native performance from an API like OpenKODE or SDL.
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@SamuraiCrow:
So, are you saying that, I could have an Amiga mobile, and have this OpenKODE on it, or can I just have the OpenKODE on it??
And, No, I am at work right now, so I cant just sit here and read a 30 minute article!
Cheers!! 8-) 8-)
P.S.Awesome, so one will be able to run OS5 on its own! Also, You wouldnt happen to know the limitations of hardware, like I mean, I think I asked, but didnt receive an answer on this!
Will It run on PC hardware current?
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@ amiga92570:
If what you say is true, gimme a couple of links, so I can read up on it.
Cheers!! 8-) 8-)
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@ Bloodline:
Thanks for the advice.
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by Starke on 2007/2/19 6:39:02
Hey peoples:
http://tech-head.com/amiga.htm
restart my pc i must
may the force be with YOU.... :lol:
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@c64_d0c :
Can you help me in my other thread, regarding my A1000??
Would be appreciated!
Cheers!
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sorry but i never owned or used a amiga1000....
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@c64_d0c:
Thats ok, atleast your on schedule and ROCKIN!!!!
You Like Dream theatre??
OR
classical Nine Inch Nails??
Cheers!! 8-) 8-)