terminator4 wrote:
greedy Ebayers?
- I'm not sure about "greedy". it's the going market rate, sometimes below market rate in my opinion. If you can't afford it then I suggest sticking to free emulators. BTW, to use a ROM legally, you should own one of the machines. ;-)
I came here to escape greedy Ebayers after all.
yetihw wrote:
Welcome back, I like you a lot already. You are definitely honest and will speak your mind.....Bravo.
Anyway I've spent a small fortune on my Amiga 2000 and have not succeeded in getting it to run consistently or right for that matter. I spent the money to learn the OS and the hardware, whatever.......
My advice for you to consider is to stay with emulation for now then look at one of two options
1. The Efika running morphos with as I understand a relatively seemless Amiga emulator for nearly all old programs.
2. One of the trillions of promised Amiga OS4 boards that also has a somewhat seemless Amiga "classic" emulator. It looks like the Sam board or samatha may actually materialize.
I too love the old machines and the "feel" of running Native but having gone down that road myself through Ebay I wouldn't recommend it to anybody. I mean as far a nostalgia goes you can get many 8 bit computers for 20 bucks and other 16 bit machines for 100 or so. The Amiga market is nuts plain and simple in fact I've seen several Amiga 2000 video toasters go on ebay for next to nothing but the same boards in those machines go for 130 dollars and up. Its become a fool or be fooled market with bits of information and compatibility fragments scattered throughout the web, which leaves us the newbies or the outta touch till now at the guru's mercy.
Don't do it. Start over with a new product and go from there.
My 2 cents
Neil
I also found an ST but I left that behind.
Chubbyrain wrote:
Time is on my side and I can always use an emulator in the meantime. I just want an actual unit for those moments of nostalgia that demand a 'hands on' tactile experience.
DonP1 wrote:
I am puzzled why you would want to throw away $150 if you have an emulator. Is having the actual hardware really worth it?
DonP1 wrote:
For one, it's a lot easier hauling around the entire system with software in a 1GB thumbdrive than it is to go down to the basement in winter just to play the hardware.
PaperMario wrote:
pretty good price for A1200, but only if it's a ntsc model.
asked for mine simliar amount.
I saw one recently that sold for $250+ on ebay(computer only).
value. I don't know why some people use eBay prices as a measuring stick for an item's worth. That mindset is completely ludicrous.
ral-clan wrote:QuoteDonP1 wrote:
I am puzzled why you would want to throw away $150 if you have an emulator. Is having the actual hardware really worth it?
Why fix up an original classic car when you can buy a modern kit car replica? Why go rock climing when you can just go to one of those rock climbing gyms?
Anyway I've spent a small fortune on my Amiga 2000 and have not succeeded in getting it to run consistently or right for that matter. I spent the money to learn the OS and the hardware, whatever.......
My 2 cents
Neil
jbuonacc wrote:
computer recycling places that could be had for a few dollars. it's this endless search for the $20 system that has warped my perspective over the years. and at the same time i have a $2000 synthesizer, a $1000 laptop, a $500 set of monitors, a $500 audio interface, etc, etc... all this and i still don't want to pay more than $20 for a C64! :-P good way to get started, i guess...
gdanko wrote:
This is because eFraud is a pit of vipers! The price something fetches on eBay is by no means an accurate measure of its value. I don't know why some people use eBay prices as a measuring stick for an item's worth. That mindset is completely ludicrous.
da9000 wrote:
... because afterall, you want it for free, because you THINK it's worth as much as an Atari, etc...
terminator4 wrote:
... an amiga 1200 can be worth as much $400, with network card, rom 3.1/os 3.1 and 16mb and 68030 board. but definitely more than $150.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150098912316
Screw you!!!!
That's call the power of free market. People pay what they feel is important. People sell that stuff for what people are willing to pay. I guess you can offer whatever you want for hardware. That is your right. If you want to be a cheapskate, that is your right too. If you put your stuff out in a public forum, it is also someone elses right to tell you off.
As for "trolling", it's usually reserved for inflammatory, insulting, incorrect, inaccurate, absurd, or off-topic type of statements that are usually aimed at pissing people off IE: Yahoo's now disabled News Discussions. It's doesn't really work unless you are weak and take the 'bait'. Trust me if you want to see trolling, I could show you REAL trolling.
I guess I'm one of those GREEDY ebayers. God forbid I want to make a little money to actually live. Charity is sweet, but it doesn't help you eat. Sorry but I live in the world of reality sometimes. The world revolves around money. To get power you need money. Very few people listen to a poor man. True I might not have liked selling some stuff to Boogiegail of all people, but at least I eventually got my money to be able to get food to eat.
Sure it's nice to get deals. I respect that. If you want to be a skinflin be that way. But I also respect peoples right to make money, no matter how "dirty" it might be to some people. I also respect peoples decision to by what ever the hell they want.
God forbid I want to make a little money to actually live.
Charity is sweet, but it doesn't help you eat.
huronking wrote:
Ok, so anyone have a piss-yellow A1200 for sale?
:-D :-D :-D
jbuonacc wrote:
?? not sure i understand this one... a stock Falcon030 is worth a good bit more than a comparable(?) A1200, and a nice ST setup will get more than an A500. they're not exactly spec'd alike, but as for comparing competing models...
jbuonacc wrote:
and of course everyone knows that Atari's product design and quality control were always leagues beyond that of Commodore/Amiga. ;-)
Chubbyrain wrote:
I wish I had a basement. I'd keep the wife in it and the Amiga upstairs in the warm.
da9000 wrote:
@jbuonacc:
As for 'RetroGeek', I wish you good luck (also keep in mind he might be 'monitoring' these forums and acting accordingly; just had to throw the conspiracy theory in there :-D )
Personally I've never really had major problems with the Amiga build quality, but it certainly wasn't top notch.
terminator4 wrote:
Really I agree with everyone here (RARE RARE LOL)
Ebay is not 100% by itself the answer. But you can develop "pricing trends" - say every week amiga 2000 sells for 50-75$ (barebone almost) you're not going to price it at $125 then.
Amiga 4000 sells for $300-350 - then you cannot price it for $500 and expect to sell it (ebay or outside ebay).
As for Doomy and the A500... I don't know if you've read through forums, it seems you're new here, but I don't think he's what you call "a poor guy". And it seems like you're playing with fire... so don't come crying back if you get stung (as many, MANY, people have in the past; here, check this out: http://www.toolhaus.org/cgi-bin/negs?User=retrogeek001&Dirn=Received+by)
there probably isnt a truelly perfect auction setup online but the millions of ebay transations completed successfully says something for it.
amigas are not now and never have been a cheap hobby. you want cheap entertainment: get a pc
terminator4 wrote:
On Ebay: the biggest {bleep} is that Seller Protection Policy with paypal (it's nonexistent). So sellers get screwed. Buyers want paypal b/c its offering credit payments and buyer protection (questionable too). Who wins? Ebay. Who loses - sellers. Which is why so few people want to take paypal.
gdanko wrote:
Case in point is the A600 they use those cheap plastic tabs on the case instead of more screws. While the case can be taken apart without breakage you need to have the hands of a surgeon!
gdanko wrote:
But some local guy sees an extraordinarily clean A4000 go for $800 on eBay. In the meantime he has some yellowed hunk of junk but doesn't perceive there is a difference because it still boots up and works. He wants to gouge you for 700-800 for a local transaction because of unrealistic eFraud pricing.
gdanko wrote:
Plus, he swears everyone else is vulgar. I cannot imagine all of the vulgar and lazy non-paying eBay users are coincidentally enthusiasts who respond to his auctions.
gdanko wrote:
One thing I find particularly amusing and interesting about Doomy is his "he only did it in retaliation" excuse. He seems to have used this one for just about all of his negatives.
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Does he really believe anyone is going to buy his defense that he was always the victim who was attacked first? Especially with the reputation he has created for himself it will be extremely difficult to garner any credibility.
Chubbyrain wrote:
I'm no jobless cheapskate. I'm just being realistic. I think people are confusing their love of Amiga with it's actual financial worth in 2007. I don't see the sense in paying premium price for rendundant technology and I won't. Would you pay $1000 for a 20 year old television? I think not. You'd go buy the latest one for that as you'd get more for your money.
Chubbyrain wrote:
Ebay is a free market and people can charge what they like for hardware (Even Dragonlady and her $699 A1200) but that doesn't mean the buyer has to agree. At the end of the day, something is only worth as much as someone will pay for it.
Chubbyrain wrote:
If you get someone with more money than sense then good for you. But don't expect that to be the norm. It's a buyers market.
Chubbyrain wrote:
Rembember, the average person in the street would just laugh at your Amiga computer and what you think it's worth. They can by their XYZ brand PC that'll do more for the same money. You can argue all you want about how much better than the PC the Amiga is, but a modern PC destroys a 1993 Amiga in every application you could put it to.
Chubbyrain wrote:
The only people really interested in buying your Amiga are those within the Amiga community. Do you really want to rip them off?
KThunder wrote:
ebay has kept more amigas alive and in circulation than any other site or store.
think about it if you had an amiga that you wanted to get rid of and you knew you would only get 20 bucks for it on ebay would you go though the hastle or just junk it.
totally different story if you can get 150 or more for it.
KThunder wrote:
amigas are not now and never have been a cheap hobby. you want cheap entertainment: get a pc
Re: Looking for a non-yellow working NTSC A1200, paying $150
no, i don't believe they did. still holding out, i think.
why, do you have one for sale?