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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: LawlessPPC on February 18, 2007, 05:20:58 PM
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Does anyone no if such a thing exists or have users here created one.
eg:-
boots into a gui
mounts or boots CD
allows eazy archive extraction
works with graphics cards
TCP/IP stack
060 libs or ppc libs
maybe could do even more
maybe even worth a bounty
could save alot of headaches
L8rs LawlessPPC
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Hmm.. RTG support might be difficult to fit on disk... at least if it's not known what hardware the Amiga contains ;) But maybe if there's several disks and some archiving involved ;)
But friend for example has boot disk which has tcp/ip stack and smbfs.. in boot it mounts samba share from other computer and uses rest of the needed files from there.
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Well it's not much but I've adjusted a Workbench 3.1 floppy so that I can boot into it and have use of the IDE CDrom in an A4000. Another one I can boot into and have use of a Zip drive on the rear 25 pin socket of an Oktagon 2008 SCSI card in an A4000. The Zip disk or CD can contain a complete Workbench and Work. So this is really handy for easily setting up new hard drives :-)
A4000 Mad
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Ahhhh, the days when I used to boot the Workbench floppy then load Deluxe Paint to scribble on.
:-)
I think the best things to put on an Emergency Boot Disk would be a CD file system, Ordering/DOpus and maybe DiskSalv.
Why stick to a floppy when you could have an emergency SRAM card for the PCMCIA slot though... booting from the mystic CC0: !
;-)
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these are all the things I am looking for. Anybody know of a possible tutorial that exists
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I am also interested in this, does anybody have any ideas as to what would be a good boot disk for a standard A600 (Workbench 2.04 disk but maybe with a few extra utils).
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eg:- boots into a gui
mounts or boots CD
allows eazy archive extraction
works with graphics cards
TCP/IP stack
060 libs or ppc libs
Ermm, I dont see the point, sorry.
why would you need a TCP/IP stack? do you have a lot of internet software on floppy?
Same with the 060 and PPC, the programs designed for these CPU's wouldnt fit on a floppy.
The rest is ok.
I get the point of making a boot floppy for CD's, and if you had a small harddrive I guess you could stick your games on CD, add the mountlists for the graphics card and even TCP/IP if it was a network game but that would be on the game CD, not a floppy.
As for making the above, copy your workbench floppy then strip everything you dont need from that floppy (ed, multiview, arexx, installer, etc) then copy your graphics card files from your hdd to the correct places, same goes for the CD mount stuff and TCP/IP.
If you dont want to load workbench each time edit the startup sequence to add the mount CD0: and if you need to connect to the ISP before the game load that up too (set quiet or whatever so it doesnt just pop up a connect screen)
Easy archive extraction without the workbench? well add LHA or whatever but making a button to bring up a file select and then dumping that info to lha x is a bit much, use CLI :)
The actual program selector could be done with echo and IF commands if you didnt want a snazzy interface.
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the idea is basically blank system up and runnning in as short a time as possible. The rtg part is to save swiching to my scandoubler. So i can boot and do install with as little fuss as possible. Maybe I dont need all these features but it would be interesting to see what could be done.
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I think I made once a boot floppy with RTG in it - it required a careful removing of everything not needed and left perhaps 2-3 kB free. Those RTG and 060/PPC files take quite a lot of space.
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Nobody could possibly want to boot even a basic Workbench at 10K/s these days other than in the event of a catastrophic hard drive failure.
If you get DiskSalv 2 it has a program to make a bootable emergency disk. Handy if you get into bother.
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I just made VirusZ boot floppy, sadly it can become essential
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I once put together a CD with boot floppy to run a Video Toaster for emergency use. I did a fresh install to the hard drive and burned all the files onto a cd. I then made a boot floppy to mount the CD and assign all the resources to the CD. Since the Workbench files were also on the cd I only need a few files on the floppy to get it to work.
In addition I believe there was compression programs for executables to reduce the file size. Very useful for floppys. There is also a program I remember called reorg. This was useful to keep the floppy from doing alot of seeking and helped reduce boot times.
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Oh Jeezuz! Stay away from Reorg... the number of times that's killed my hard disk...
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Stay away from Reorg... the number of times that's killed my hard disk...
0 (zero)
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No! 3 (three)!
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Disturb Reorg and kiss goodbye to your entire hard disk contents. Sometimes it will crash the machine, other times it will just lock.
Not sure whether it's worth using, even for floppies.
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I've got a boot disk, that has AZ and one of the older versions of Diskmaster2, and its been a life saver on a few occasions.
I haven't used it in a long time, (I think it was powerpacker?) but when I had an A500 with a small HD, it was to unpack executable programs in order to save space. Would something like that work with programs on a floppy? It might with a TCP stack at least.
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Back in the heavy floppy usage days, I used to mount a RAD:, diskcopy the contents of the floppy into the RAD: Open quarterback tools and get it to defrag the disk in memory (the RAD), which it did really fast and was kinda cool to watch. Then diskcopy the contents of the RAD back to the floppy and it's reorganised. :-D