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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: Starke on February 13, 2007, 11:48:59 PM
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Dear Amiga People,
(No, I dont hate macs,nor do I like them though)
Check out this thread, its quiet interesting.
Ive already posted some comments, feel free to read them.
Cheers
And
Heres the Link:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/story/0,,2006031,00.html
May you all be entertained by the biased views of people, and may you all realise reality!
Cheers 8-) 8-)
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I found the article quite entertaining... even if a little bit presumptuous.
This one is kinda funny:
Quote: "Unless you have been walking around with your eyes closed, and your head encased in a block of concrete, with a blindfold tied round it, in the dark - unless you have been doing that, you surely can't have failed to notice the current Apple Macintosh campaign"
Well... I haven't seen a Macintosh ad for quite a while (8-9 years at least) to be honest... I don't watch TV cause I can't stand the commercials (in general), I adblock all of them on the Web, and I haven't seen any Mac ads in the papers or heard them on the radio...
Quote: "Mitchell and Webb. They are a logical choice in one sense (everyone likes them), but a curious choice in another, since they are best known for the television series Peep Show - probably the best sitcom of the past five years"
Oh my. I watched one episode of that sitcom and found it completely awful... Never watched another one. If that's the best, one can only immagine what the worst one is like. Is the British TV becoming the same crap as the American one?
Quote: "If the ads were really honest, Webb would be standing there with one arm, struggling to open a packet of peanuts while Mitchell effortlessly tore his apart with both hands."
:lol: I love this quote! And I happen to agree with it... Using a single mouse button is really painful.
All in all, I don't *hate* Macs, but from my point of view, there's no difference with the PC, especially since they moved on the x86, now it's like a wolf in sheep's clothing. I see no difference whatsoever from the hardware point of view, and I never really cared for MacOS. It's like the pot calling the kettle black.
Personally I find Linux way more interesting even if not nearly as interesting as AmigaOS ever was.
But I can understand why the author feels so annoyed by Apple advertising. I find the same over here with Telus, I just can't stand them ;-)
Just my 5 cents.
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Don't care to read it, and no, I don't watch TV either.
I just want to say that I like Macs, just nowhere near as much as I like my A3000. I used to emulate a Mac on my Amiga, (mainly to run a DooM level editor so I could write DooM levels to play on my Amiga). I was always amazed how much faster an emulated Mac runs on an Amiga than on a Mac (unemulated) with the same processor!
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AWESOME.
Well done, true supporter then.
I suspect you may get a new case with the new board then also, when it comes out in a few months!
Cheers 8-) 8-)
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anyone thats used a new intel mac with os 10.4. knows hows
awesome they are. there is no denying that.
it pisses over windows. and linux.
what can i say. The new macs ARE THE MODERN AMIGAS.
and this is how amiga should of turned out.
I love my imac it's awesome.
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My friend owns a New Mac laptop.
And the OS on it, just simply reminds me off a rip off of the original Amiga 3.9, and now the OS4. At the same time, there are windows features in it(self explanatory, as Bill Gates immitates Mac)
Docks, what a fuken {edit by admin: profanity} this steve jobs is, he is becoming like a second Bill Gates.Amiga had that before Mac!
All that aside, I do agree though, Mac is not bad, however, it still isnt an Amiga OS, yet alone, nothing like the new Completed OS4(2007).
All in all, It'll be another couple a years before many people will have gone back to the new Amiga systems, that will be coming out with Hardware at a more reguarlar and constant pace.(soon)(sam440ep will definately give some spark, but the moana board will be interesting to see what happens to EX Amiga users, if they go back, or not)
So, Im staying with Amiga, Not touching the single mouse button MAc {bleep}, and I geuss, you also havent seen the New Linux OS, it {bleep}s all over the nw Mac OS.
If I were at home, Id post the link here, but Im at work, so I may do it later tonight, before my valentines date.
Cheers 8-) 8-)
Also, I gathered you know that Wii won over sony, and that the new sony ps4 will not be allowed to use the latest hands free things with it.
But this is where Amiga can regain market.
Obviously the new OS4(2007)(completed) can play ps3 games directly on the new Amiga systems.
However what hasnt been noted is the dealings that Sony and Amiga are doing behind closed doors. Amiga used to have a virtual reality, now since wii won over sony, this is sony's way back into the market for the PS4, and hence, It may well be Amiga's only chance to gain a huge young market, of gamers for now.
At a later stage though, the Amiga Computer systems will once again shine, I just hope Amiga and Sony come to an agreement before half way of this year!
Cheers 8-) 8-)
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Returning to reality for a moment.
You don't have to use a one-button mouse in a mac. In fact Apple's own mighty mouse has three buttons and a scroll wheel that goes up and down and left to right. Just plug in anything you like and off you go.
Macs are great, if a little pricey. I wouldn't be without mine.
If Sony ever want anything from Amiga, they will just buy the patents/rights and use it. I wouldn't hold my breath for any magic partnership.
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Starke wrote:
My friend owns a New Mac laptop.
And the OS on it, just simply reminds me off a rip off of the original Amiga 3.9, and now the OS4. At the same time, there are windows features in it(self explanatory, as Bill Gates immitates Mac)
Docks, what a fuken asshole this steve jobs is, he is becoming like a second Bill Gates.Amiga had that before Mac!
All that aside, I do agree though, Mac is not bad, however, it still isnt an Amiga OS, yet alone, nothing like the new Completed OS4(2007).
All in all, It'll be another couple a years before many people will have gone back to the new Amiga systems, that will be coming out with Hardware at a more reguarlar and constant pace.(soon)(sam440ep will definately give some spark, but the moana board will be interesting to see what happens to EX Amiga users, if they go back, or not)
So, Im staying with Amiga, Not touching the single mouse button MAc {bleep}, and I geuss, you also havent seen the New Linux OS, it {bleep}s all over the nw Mac OS.
If I were at home, Id post the link here, but Im at work, so I may do it later tonight, before my valentines date.
Cheers 8-) 8-)
Also, I gathered you know that Wii won over sony, and that the new sony ps4 will not be allowed to use the latest hands free things with it.
But this is where Amiga can regain market.
Obviously the new OS4(2007)(completed) can play ps3 games directly on the new Amiga systems.
However what hasnt been noted is the dealings that Sony and Amiga are doing behind closed doors. Amiga used to have a virtual reality, now since wii won over sony, this is sony's way back into the market for the PS4, and hence, It may well be Amiga's only chance to gain a huge young market, of gamers for now.
At a later stage though, the Amiga Computer systems will once again shine, I just hope Amiga and Sony come to an agreement before half way of this year!
Cheers 8-) 8-)
your a funny guy. and you obviously have no idea....
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. jesus man. your either an enthusiastic 12 year old. or your just overly idealistic. and not realistic.
PS4 lolololololol!. yeah I modded my C64 the other day to play ps3 games. :roll:
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Starke wrote:
So, Im staying with Amiga, Not touching the single mouse button MAc {bleep}
Go and spend $5 on a 2 button mouse
Obviously the new OS4(2007)(completed) can play ps3 games directly on the new Amiga systems.
:crazy: Funny, dont see any mention of that on Hyperions OS4 website, would have thought that'd be a major selling point worth bragging about.
So how's the 533Mhz SoC of the SAM440 gonna run code meant for a 3.2Ghz Cell CPU? (wont even mention the lack of SPE's, or the fact OS4 doesnt support nvidia gfx chips)
BTW, OS4 Final was released 2006
Amiga had created a Virtual reality machine back in the day
No they didnt.
A company called Virtuality made the 1000CS VR game system with an A3000 inside it, nothing to do with Amiga (the company)
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Go to wikepedia, and youl find the Virtual Reality machine as part of Amiga, and not part of a different company.
OK
Amiga may have gotten someone to do the work for them, but who gives a fuk, the world is full of getting others to do the work, and then selling for your own gain, get over it rockstar!
We are in 2007, not in 1980's!
Cheers! 8-) 8-)
And even back then comapnies always got others to build things for them, and then put their brand name on it.
HOLDEN is the worse case scenario for this, theyve always done it since the first car, just changes the badge. What a bunch of aHoles!
Id rather my *********** type of cars! 8-) 8-)
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yep, you def are no older 12.
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Its simple, do some hardcore research the next few days, and Im sure after many websites, and much reading, you will find the not so easy websites to find, with the valuable type of information, and the realistic type of information.
Just like the company soft3, it is real, and it is now partnered with Amiga, but yet you all still doubt it, whats wrong with you, the information is all over the net, just look very hard to find it, as Amiga is a niche market, it will take longer to get the real deal information!
Isnt that obvious to all you nut jobs downsizing your beloved Amiga platforms, I dont understand this one factor, also read my lovely posting on the Link I had posted in my first post, Im sure you will kringe at the fact that Ive put Amiga in with the other platforms spoken of!
But to those that arent kringing, well, your true supporters and really do wish Amiga to Rise again!
Cheers
8-) 8-)
P.S.Dont go against me, its simple, just inform me if you wish, but Im definitely done well in my posting on the I hate Macs postings of the provided link.
P.S.S.And no, I mightened always say it right here on my posts, but atleast I have done the hard research to find out what really is going on behind the scenes of our beloved platform!
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I got an idea, why dont all you people stop bit chin in amongst eachother here, including to me, and actually have a nice forum conversation, whereby you show me links and webpages and be very informative about the Current Amiga situation, instead of the current Amiga situation which is still in your heads from some years ago!
Cheers!! 8-) 8-)
P.S.I can be an Ahole too if you'd like! You guys choose!But be warned, I can also talk like all you have to me, insulting your intelligence, or more like your ignorance!
P.S.S.Maybe Ill get hayden, sammy, Bug racer, derringer, stopthegop, etc, etc to help me out too. But does it have to come to this??
P.S.S.S.Lets stop the crap!I gave you a link, not to discuss about it, but for you guys to post your comment on that particular web post on that particualr link I had given!
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@starke
"Power supply make noise? install new fresh system from heart!
make steady the power from your hand. use the power from STARKE to feed you beast inside you. move mountain from power source! give in to you desire!"
Thats what it sounds like when you talk.
like a bad chinese product riddled with bad grammer, and unintelligence.
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Well, my apologies kind stud. Like the studs on a wheel you are. They are loose.
While we are at it, it is really simple here, I am just annoyed at how beligerant many of the Amiga people are on these forums, In fact, I bet, more than 50% on these forums dont even own an Amiga any more, and they just like to Bit-ch around.
As for grammer, well, what can I say, I type faster when I am at work, so that I do not get in trouble, hence, it seems your the one who has noticed that I am not a touch typist.
Interesting character you are, I have not heard a single post, while your talking to me, or anyone who was actually helping me in any of my previous posts, whether it be Amiga market or where ever else you have made a comment, speech, or remark, that has been positive.
Maybe you should give it a try, to start writing positive remarks, whereby you try to actually be informative.
Oh, I forgot, you are one of the others on these forums that simply wish to fight, well my man, maybe go outside, pick on someone bigger than you, make sure you got a knuckle buster, and waste your fumes and anger there, before coming back onto the Amiga forums!
Thank you
Have a wonderful day(Smiles)
And happy hunting!
Kind Regards
Amiga Man
Cheers 8-) 8-)
P.S.Oh no, you still havent posted a comment on that initial link that I asked people to look at, well then, why are you even bothering to write to me here on this post I have made?
Let us see, why don't you grab yourself a pen and paper, search the internet vigorously, and in the mean time actually post a comment on the Link above.
Mmmmmm, Thinking, as you mightened be too bright on this here, let me give you the link again on this post!
Here it is my friend!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/story/0,,2006031,00.html
Oh yeah, and instead of commenting against me in the posted link, its not about me, but about the society of Macs and Pc's, I just made people aware about whats new in the Amiga field, for most of the people who made a post on this particular Link, as many didnt even know about the sam440ep board, yet alone OS4!
Cheers Again 8-) 8-)
Let me know how your people bashing skills come along, I got a friend Psycho Sam who's always looking for a fight.
One more thing, have you noticed the words are better now, why, because Ive been using the keyboard slower, you happy Mr.Happy trigger?
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Im not looking for a fight man. you need to realize that there are people who have been on these forums for over 10 years that have supported the Amiga and know exactly how this industry works.
You have to understand that every now and then people like you come along. and post things that have been posted a million times before.( I am not implying to this thread )
They have ALL the ideas on a way to make Amiga come back.
and think that they can single handedly bring about change.
Or try to "reunite the brothers" so to speak.
some of them have some knowledge about the industry (computers in general) someone of them just sound like little kids.
When you come about saying things like the new Amigas with OS4 can run Playstation 3 games. you tend to bring yourself in the little kiddy section.
I suggest you relax a bit. and learn more about the industry. before you come flying around again saying
"I know how to bring the Amiga back"
and if you stay on these forums for long enough. you will prob see yourself in a few months. another kiddy that thinks he knows about the industry..
No hard feelings. just need to relax a bit.
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I read it. Great, yet another article written by a person who doesn't know crap about computers. Most of it was {bleep}ing about the social aspect of the platform and advert campaign. Who cares? I like windows, I like *nix, I like OSX. I use them all for what they are good for. I don't care what some "journalist" thinks.
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Starke wrote:
Go to wikepedia, and youl find the Virtual Reality machine as part of Amiga, and not part of a different company.
Its simple, do some hardcore research the next few days, and Im sure after many websites, and much reading, you will find the not so easy websites to find, with the valuable type of information, and the realistic type of information.
Just like the company soft3, it is real, and it is now partnered with Amiga, but yet you all still doubt it, whats wrong with you, the information is all over the net, just look very hard to find it, as Amiga is a niche market, it will take longer to get the real deal information!
Blabla.
At university, we had a standard rule for gathering information:
"Much that is useful is not on the Internet, and much that is on the Internet is not useful".
Of course, you can switch "useful" with "true", especially when it comes to wikipedia. It's a nice source of information, but don't trust anything you read. (like why isn't anything mentioned about soft3 on the Amiga.com website? If there was a partnership I'm pretty sure they would have mentioned it somewhere).
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McVenco:
Because they cant be BOTHERED updating their website, as they are all too busy this time round, trying to get the hardware and the rest of the jargon, along with the legal side of things together!
Cheers
And Have A Nice Night! 8-) 8-)
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Reason : Watch your language!
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Koafder:
Thats cool, I didnt like the postings either, but at the same time I gladly took the opportunity to make these idiots aware that Amiga isnt dead, and still humming.
Thats all I did, make those who may have not been informed, aware!
At the same time, I admit, some days are worse than others for me, I have a lot of info that Ive read and so forth, but at the end of the day, I cant keep it all in my head, as much as Id like to believe it all stays in my own Cache, or memory banks, it doesnt all the time.
Hence, It must be because I forget to save it from the RAM, before rebooting my system in the mornings!(smiles)
Cheers
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the new OS4(2007)(completed)
I thought the final was released (completed) last year (2006)?
Not touching the single mouse button MAc {bleep}
"The Single Mouse Button" indeed is a problem - but only if you have a laptop. If you do, you can "just live with it", or use a normal mouse, like you would on any non-portable mac.
can play ps3 games directly on the new Amiga systems.
I think you mixed that up with PS*1* emulator, which it has :-)
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@ Jupp:
Yes, maybe I did mix it up.(smiles)
Cheers,
Oh and, its my mate that owns the Mac, he got sick of PC's recently, and got rid of them all, when yet, I think he moreso got sick of the OS on it, as Mac systems themselves also use PC hardware dont they?
Anyway, Ill let him know about the two mouse button!
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Jupp3 wrote:
the new OS4(2007)(completed)
I thought the final was released (completed) last year (2006)?
Not touching the single mouse button MAc {bleep}
"The Single Mouse Button" indeed is a problem - but only if you have a laptop. If you do, you can "just live with it", or use a normal mouse, like you would on any non-portable mac.
No, just put two fingers on the mouse pad... and click... then you have a right mouse click :-)
More natural than two buttons actually :-D
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But the Mac knows about Amiga love!
(http://pix.blakespot.com/download/7374-2/airball_30inch.jpg) (http://pix.blakespot.com/view/computers/screenshots/airball_30inch.jpg.html)
Anyway, my Mac (http://pix.blakespot.com/view/computers/macpro/IMG_8822.JPG.html) and my Amiga (http://pix.blakespot.com/view/computers/a1200_tower/) talk all the time on the LAN. Why can't we all just get along?
:-)
blakespot
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Guys?
I'm not going to sit here and wade through another deluded "starke-fest". The only thing I can add to the conversation is that no, the Mac isn't for everyone but;
1) The current Mac OS X is exactly what the Amiga should have been, in every respect.
2) Anyone (like Starke) who raves against it has obviously not actually used or owned a Mac running OS X 10.4 or later.
I moved from the PC to the mac about 5 months ago, and my 2.16ghz Core2Duo is incredibly fast, incredibly stable, incredibly quiet (about 5-10dB), and because of my professional needs, seemlessly accommodates a ergonomic keyboard and 3-button wireless mouse.
As a matter of fact, it CAME with a 3-button mouse, replete with scroll button, but considering I spent 14 hours a day working on the machine, I needed something a bit more ergonomic.
Note to Starke, and really everyone else. If AI had gone the Apple route 5 years ago, we'd all be running Amigas now. They didn't, so quite frankly, stop kvetching about things you have no clue on... OS X *IS* what the Amiga should have been.
Wayne
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Starke wrote:
While I appreciate your support of this site, I am beginning to believe two things based on your conduct here;
1) You are roughly 12 years old, or you are in desperate need of English tutelage. The latter I could accept because English is not everyone's primary language. My point is that the way you phrase things serves as an irritant to others.
2) You do not play well with others, nor are you accepting of the opinion of others. Being on the Internet, you meet an incredible variety of people. It is very rare and creepy -- unless you're on a fan site like amigans.net -- to find a place where everyone holds the exact same opinion. If you cannot accept and understand the opinions of others, then that's a serious shortcoming on your part.
Considering your feelings on the matter, I might suggest that you'd be happier over on Amigans.net where you might be amongst more like-minded individuals.
Wayne
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Blakespot:
Thats a really nice setup man.
and no, as I said before I dont hate macs, I even got friends who use them, I just wouldnt get one though thats all.
Cheers
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Starke wrote:
and no, as I said before I dont hate macs, I even got friends who use them, I just wouldnt get one though thats all.
Then this thread, labelled "I hate macs" is completely pointless and trolling.
Wayne
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WAYNE:
THis posting got out of hand, because people on here didnt listen to the first post made here, which was, simple in my eyes to understand, and comprehend.
I only wanted to let people have a look at another posting site, nothing to do with Amiga, as to get feedback on what they thought about it.
As I also said, My friend owns a Mac, I have worked on Macs before, but at the end of the day, although better than PC, or moreso the OS on it, My heart still belongs to the Amiga Platform!
End This Forum if you wish, I dont care any more, I just am bewildered at how fellow Amigaians seem to take things out of context.
I thought it was simple enough to just post a link, have people view it, make a comment on the posted link on here, and thats it, BUT NO, instead they start trying to get me fired up, and I let them.
SO As Mentioned in another posting, anyone who does it, I will say
@whoever(name goes here for thos not intelligent enough)
BUGGER
End post.
Anyway, not to worry, I just think more people like Sicky, StopTheGop, HiMem, Derringer3, Gertsy, BugRacer, Jkirk, etc, etc should be here, rather than the clowns, gunners etc, who know exactly how to wade of the actual Post!
YES
I know, I initially came in here like it, but I have gained much knowledge, moreso from my own spare time in researching, which is a shame, I believe a good idea would be to have a clear a at all times clearly visible section called something like, Up to date Amiga Info, or IMPORTANT TO NEWCOMERS, or IMPORTANT TO NON REGUARLAR USERS.
In here one would ofcourse have all relevant information, that people would hopefully read first before even making their first post, and, it will give passer byers, who arent joined to Amiga.org, a chance to see the latest in Amiga!
Cheers
Good nite
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@Chubbyrain
Macs are great, if a little pricey. I wouldn't be without mine.
Same here, I currently have a G5 iMac and it is a brilliant machine and Mac OSX does everything and more that I want :-)
At some point in the future I am going to give this machine to my kids (so they won't start their computing lives with Windows) so I can upgrade to a Mac Pro which I intend to buy as soon as Leopard is released!
Mac OSX is what Amiga OS should have developed into many years ago..... we are so far behind :-(
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If you're crying for attention, then earn it by doing something good instead of ripping on other peoples preferences and opinions.
I don't like Windows either, but I have friends who use it. You don't see me writing inflammable posts on forums for that reason, do you?