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Title: What a find! 1084S-D2
Post by: Matt_H on June 04, 2003, 08:38:47 PM
My school was throwing one of these out! I can't believe it. Well, actually I can. They don't know anything about Amigas and probably think it's broken. It may be, though. I haven't tested it yet. By the time I got to it, it was covered in dirt and about to be thrown on the back of the truck. Good timing, eh?
It's in great cosmetic shape. No yellowing, it even has the front panel door. Just the thing to replace the barely-working 1902A the 500's currently hooked up to.

Now I need to go about getting this thing cleaned up. Anything I should be aware of?  :-)
Title: Re: What a find! 1084S-D2
Post by: seer on June 04, 2003, 08:41:13 PM
I know the 1084S, but what's the differnce with the D2 version ??

Now I need to go about getting this thing cleaned up. Anything I should be aware of?

Don't pour water in it ;-)...
Title: Re: What a find! 1084S-D2
Post by: Matt_H on June 04, 2003, 09:06:08 PM
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what's the difference with the D2 version??


Eh... I don't know for sure. I think it has to do with the production run. This one has a badge on it in the same style as the 1200; it's from late 1992. My older one has a 2000 style badge and an option to tint the entire display green; it's a D1 from early 1991.

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Don't pour water in it ;-)...


I'll keep that in mind, thanks. :-)
Title: Re: What a find! 1084S-D2
Post by: seer on June 04, 2003, 09:10:28 PM
I'll keep that in mind, thanks.  :-)

You're welcome.. As I'm from the other side of the water, I can't give any advice on what products to use, but there are special sollutions to clean the display and other sollutions to clean the casing.. Eh, wasn't there a thread here about some kind of wondercleaner ? Mr Sheen or something ?
Title: Re: What a find! 1084S-D2
Post by: N7VQM on June 04, 2003, 09:16:24 PM
IIRC, the D2 designation indicates that a different flyback transformer was used in the high voltage section.  
Title: Re: What a find! 1084S-D2
Post by: Phantom206 on June 04, 2003, 10:18:45 PM
WOW! A Commodore 1084S monitor... Don't laugh.. I have the same monitor since 1991 and is working normal, with no service... Beat that pcs..... :-D  :-D
Title: Re: What a find! 1084S-D2
Post by: iamaboringperson on June 04, 2003, 10:21:26 PM
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Now I need to go about getting this thing cleaned up. Anything I should be aware of?
MrSheen?  :-D
Title: Re: What a find! 1084S-D2
Post by: browny on June 04, 2003, 10:24:48 PM
@Phantom206,
I`ve got the commodore 1084ST,That`s a `T` more than you got,Nah,nah, na nah na  :-D
Oh s**t not Mr sheen again !!
Title: Re: What a find! 1084S-D2
Post by: seer on June 04, 2003, 10:26:28 PM
I`ve got the commodore 1084ST,That`s a `T` more than you got,Nah,nah, na nah na  :-D

From Atari right ?  :-D  RDRFN
Title: Re: What a find! 1084S-D2
Post by: browny on June 04, 2003, 10:28:37 PM
Go on then SEER, Why ATARI?
Title: Re: What a find! 1084S-D2
Post by: seer on June 04, 2003, 10:29:08 PM
Atari ST
Title: Re: What a find! 1084S-D2
Post by: iamaboringperson on June 04, 2003, 10:30:24 PM
i have had a 1084S-D2 for 10 years! its a shame it stopped working about 4 years ago :(



quiz: the 'S' stands for Stereo, however, do you know what the D in D2 stands for?
Title: Re: What a find! 1084S-D2
Post by: browny on June 04, 2003, 10:34:00 PM
No definately commodore C= ! :-D
Title: Re: What a find! 1084S-D2
Post by: Darth_X on June 04, 2003, 11:19:08 PM
I have a 1084DS (don't remember if its D1 or D2).

D is the model number perhaps because its the 4th generation 1084 monitor?

Shame the speakers went on mine, everyone else I know who got the same model have normally working speakers. :-( LOL!

Title: Re: What a find! 1084S-D2
Post by: iamaboringperson on June 04, 2003, 11:22:55 PM
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Darth_X wrote:
I have a 1084DS (don't remember if its D1 or D2).

D is the model number perhaps because its the 4th generation 1084 monitor?

Shame the speakers went on mine, everyone else I know who got the same model have normally working speakers. :-( LOL!



bzzzt wrong!  ;-)

monitors that had a 'P' - had 'Philipps' CRTs
monitors that had a 'D' - had 'Daewoo' CRTs!

the daewoo ones are always newer

the '2' is the seccond revision of those with Daewoo CRTS


 :-)
Title: Re: What a find! 1084S-D2
Post by: Darth_X on June 04, 2003, 11:53:37 PM
LOL.. I have a terrible memory. And you are correct.. it is indeed a Daewoo CRT! :-D

Title: Re: What a find! 1084S-D2
Post by: melott on June 05, 2003, 01:17:02 AM
Hmmm...... :-)

I bought my 1084S-D in 1985 or 86  (I think) for my
C=64.  Since, I've used it for my A500 then my A3000
then back to switching between my A1000 and A500.
After all these years it still works great.
The case has a little yellowing but the tube has a
good picture and the speakers are still good.
It was an expensive monitor when I bought it but
I guess now I can say it was worth it.
I guess I never really thought about it as long as
it worked.

Mel Ott
 :-D  :-D
Title: Re: What a find! 1084S-D2
Post by: Matt_H on June 05, 2003, 05:13:39 AM
Huzzah! Got it working. Take that, school! :-D
This has been a great week for me. I think I just saved myself... $80? That's about what these are worth these days, yes? Maybe a bit less.

I think I'll put this one with the 500 and the 1942 with my new 600...

Sadly, all my household's old (80s era) 1084s died a few years back. Probably could have fixed them, now that I look back. Geez, I think we binned 3 at once. Shame.

As for cleaning this new one, I saved even more money by using a small pin, vacuum cleaner and damp tissues instead of Mr. Sheen-type products.
Title: Re: What a find! 1084S-D2
Post by: Tesral on June 05, 2003, 05:17:16 AM
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Phantom206 wrote:
WOW! A Commodore 1084S monitor... Don't laugh.. I have the same monitor since 1991 and is working normal, with no service... Beat that pcs..... :-D  :-D



Sob, my old 1084S bit the dust a few years back  Most likely the result of too many trips to the computer club in the back of a station wagon.  I just got an offerot pick up a whole load of A500 stuff including a monitor.  I have accepted same.  
Title: Re: What a find! 1084S-D2
Post by: Tesral on June 05, 2003, 05:22:04 AM
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I think I'll put this one with the 500 and the 1942 with my new 600...


I have a 1942.  I don't like it.  It's fine in NTSC but VGA level screens it just sucks.  I suppost I should suck it up and get the Idek Illyama fixed.
Title: Re: What a find! 1084S-D2
Post by: N7VQM on June 05, 2003, 05:31:33 AM
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by melott on 2003/6/4 19:17:02

It was an expensive monitor when I bought it but


Ain't that the truth!  I got a 1084S when I got my A500 in late 90 and it cost me $300.  I think I bought it from Tenex.
Title: Re: What a find! 1084S-D2
Post by: DethKnight on June 05, 2003, 06:00:21 AM
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WOW! A Commodore 1084S monitor... Don't laugh.. I have the same monitor since 1991 and is working normal, with no service...


ditto 1084S-D2 currently being used for my Gamecube and DVD player. Watching an Adam Sandler flick onit this very moment.

cost me $169 us when I bought it,(possibly safe harbor or some such place) $80 wouldn't touch it now, in fact you may have to pry it from my cold dead fingers some day.
Title: Re: What a find! 1084S-D2
Post by: Matt_H on June 05, 2003, 04:25:33 PM
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I have a 1942.  I don't like it.  It's fine in NTSC but VGA level screens it just sucks.


Yeah, the VGA modes are pretty bad, but at least the option is there. They can be hacked to a reasonable state with MonEd. Then again, I can't imagine I'll be doing too much DblNTSC work with a stock 600. I hope I still have that extra Commodore VGA adaptor...
Title: Re: What a find! 1084S-D2
Post by: jeffimix on June 05, 2003, 09:01:23 PM
From what I figure, 1084 (even the S models) aren't typically owrth that much, problem with them is not that they're bad screens, but they're all so old that they can go bust at any moment. :-| . I'd be very surprised if any of the remaining functional 1084ses remained functional for another decade.

and, oh yeah, 640x400 interlaced???. Nice TVs but sub par resolution for modern monitors (I sure hope that Amiga Ones don't get distributed with a monitor of that low res)
Title: Re: What a find! 1084S-D2
Post by: D00kie on June 05, 2003, 09:13:19 PM
The D stands for Digital, I'm pretty sure I read that in the manual.
It was designed to accommodate Commodore's crappy Colt PC as well as
an Amiga. I think it could synch up to a 24Khz EGA signal for a
(yeeech!) PC.
Title: Re: What a find! 1084S-D2
Post by: iamaboringperson on June 05, 2003, 11:47:31 PM
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D00kie wrote:
The D stands for Digital, I'm pretty sure I read that in the manual.
It was designed to accommodate Commodore's crappy Colt PC as well as
an Amiga. I think it could synch up to a 24Khz EGA signal for a
(yeeech!) PC.
nope! the monitors are analogue!  ;-)  the 'D' is for 'Daewoo' and a good CRT it is too!  :-)