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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: mikrucio on January 29, 2007, 11:27:08 PM
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I am a keyboardist and composer. We are about to release our debut album (Power Metal). Im doing a cover of ron klarins battle squadron title track and 1st level track rolled into one for the album as a bonus song, showing our musical roots lie in the Amiga.
Iv tried to contact Ron asking him permission to do this.
this was about 2 months ago now.
His web site is in german which leads me to believe that he cant speak english. Does anyone have any other means to contact him. or any german speaking people pop him an email asking him to contact me. please.
tobyslair@hotmail.com
regards
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most germans also speak english. I can read and write german, but I urge you to write him in english, just because there is a huge chance that he can understand you. He may have decided to make his site in german, becasue he lives in germany?....
(in stark contrast to the few americans that can speak anything other than "american"...)
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"Most Germans" (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3922978514075251375) in fact do not speak English, it's largely dependant upon age/region.
guru-666 wrote:
most germans also speak english. I can read and write german, but I urge you to write him in english, just because there is a huge chance that he can understand you. He may have decided to make his site in german, becasue he lives in germany?....
(in stark contrast to the few americans that can speak anything other than "american"...)
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His name is Ron Klaren. His website is http://www.ronklaren.nl/.
He is not German but Dutch. Most Dutch people speak English. In my opinion this has mostly to do the fact that we subtitle and don't dub original movies and TV-series. A lot of the TV-programs are in English, so there you have it.
Good luck contacting him!
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nini nony, I grew up in germany and no matter what region you are in you will learn english in school. (unless you are realy realy old) :lol: Cute commercial... but he is actualy speaking english.
anyhow, if you need help let me know.
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Woops yeah i misspelt it.
Yes i have already CONTACTED HIM THROUGH HIS WEBSITE>
as mentioned over 2 months ago.
So should i just keep trying?
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Well after failing to notice the fact that ron's site
hasnt been updated in 2 years. tells me 2 things.
He is dead.
Or he no longer works.
If we use his tunes in our CD. And give him clear and direct credit. are we capable of being sued?
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by mikrucio on 2007/2/4 21:28:33
"are we capable of being sued?"
You are always capable of being sued, no matter if you are in the wrong or not.
Lawsuit = (1*Client) + (1*Lawyer)
You - $$$$$$ = (1*unreasonable client) + (1*unethical lawyer)
You - $$$$$$ = (1*Client + $) + (1*Lawyer + $$$$$)
Have Fun,
AmigaEd
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News!!
i contacted me local copyrights dept.
in australia it's APRA.
They said since I have tried to contact the original composer.
many times. and As long as i have documented proof. (emails and amiga.org)
And as long as I Credit Ron Klaren for the track.
The only thing I am entitled to do is pay Ron royalties.
which in my case is $144 per 1000 cd's.
So if Ron ever complains I'd be happy to give him his royalties.
SO IT"S ALL GOOD!
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Its always easier to ask forgiveness than to ask permission.
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Erm? Have you tried the obvious? Like calling the phone numbers (http://www.ronklaren.nl/pages/meer-info.php) on his homepage? (Ofcourse at a time when he would be awake =).
And his site has actually been updated in 2007, the copyright notice at the bottom is rather clear.
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YAY!!! I called him!! and he answered!!
it's all cool now.
for future reference if anyone wants to get ron
his OTHER email address is ronklaren@xxxxxxxx
And he CAN speak english!! WOOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOO.
regards to all.
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Email address removed.
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:lol:
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That's good to hear! Maybe you could edit his emailaddress so that spam bots can't spider it though?
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guru-666 wrote:
most germans also speak english. I can read and write german, but I urge you to write him in english, just because there is a huge chance that he can understand you. He may have decided to make his site in german, becasue he lives in germany?....
(in stark contrast to the few americans that can speak anything other than "american"...)
Hey all,
Don't mean to resurrect this thread with almost entirely o/t subject matter... but in regard to the above "side discussion".... My brother is in Munich right now... he speaks a bit of German (most Germans are at least very appreciative of his effort), but the idea that "most Germans" speak English is a myth. he has encountered *very few* Germans that speak English well enough to converse, making things like renting a Motorcycle difficult. Anyhow, if you travel to Europe, make sure you've studied up enough language to accomplish whatever it is you intend to do... betting on the locals to speak English is a bad idea, it's simply a matter of chance. (Interestingly, he seems to think he encountered far more English speakers in Turkey than in Germany, LOL.)
cheers
Damion
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My brother is in Munich right now... he speaks a bit of German (most Germans are at least very appreciative of his effort), but the idea that "most Germans" speak English is a myth. he has encountered *very few* Germans that speak English well enough to converse...
You're brother sounds like the considerate type who makes an effort to communicate in the local language instead of expecting English.
On the other hand, I have also heard stories of Americans travelling in Europe (sometimes acting very brash with big Stars & Stripes pasted across their jackets). In this case some of the local people who actually understand English very well fiegn ignorance.
Happened to a friend of mine who was travelling in France. He doesn't speak French very well. Went into a small pub and nobody spoke English there. When he finally explained he was Canadian, they were all very welcoming and had a lovely conversation with him --- in English! :lol:
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I think the younger generation speaks more English, but i have meet older germans on my vacations to Spain and they are either stubborn or dont know English at all. There was even someone who loudly complained in a currency exchange bank, because they did not speak in German and the German couple refused to communicate in English. :-o
Odd how they expect people in Spain to speak German when they are simply visitors in the country.
I think the main problem with some european countries like Germany is the fact that they dub the tv. In countries where they air the tv in original language the people also seem to generally have a much better understanding of English even though both countries have English lessons in public schools.
I myself learned 90% of it from watching American tv and playing video games.
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ral-can wrote:
You're brother sounds like the considerate type who makes an effort to communicate in the local language instead of expecting English.
Thanks! Yeah, he's (usually, lol) a pretty thoughtful guy. It does help that we spent time learning German from some of our family... basic things like hotels, restaurants, or asking for directions are fine. Other things like having to fill out paperwork for a vehicle rental can still be a challenge, though.
On the other hand, I have also heard stories of Americans travelling in Europe (sometimes acting very brash with big Stars & Stripes pasted across their jackets). In this case some of the local people who actually understand English very well fiegn ignorance.
A friend of mine is like that. He thought France "sucked" because a restaurant he dined at didn't have an "American menu" -- and by this he didn't mean an English menu, but a menu specifically with American food. He didn't understand why they were "short" with him after he had expressed his annoyance about the menu... :shrug:
Happened to a friend of mine who was travelling in France. He doesn't speak French very well. Went into a small pub and nobody spoke English there. When he finally explained he was Canadian, they were all very welcoming and had a lovely conversation with him --- in English!
LOL, that's a good one. :-)
Tomas wrote:
I think the younger generation speaks more English, but i have meet older germans on my vacations to Spain and they are either stubborn or dont know English at all. There was even someone who loudly complained in a currency exchange bank, because they did not speak in German and the German couple refused to communicate in English.
Odd how they expect people in Spain to speak German when they are simply visitors in the country.
I think the main problem with some european countries like Germany is the fact that they dub the tv. In countries where they air the tv in original language the people also seem to generally have a much better understanding of English even though both countries have English lessons in public schools.
I myself learned 90% of it from watching American tv and playing video games.
Yeah, I've met quite a few stodgy old Germans myself. Funny thing (similar to ral-clan's example above), once you throw out even the smallest bit of German (a simple greeting will do), their faces brighten up, and all of a sudden they're very friendly! Happened to me on more than one occasion. Even my own great-grandfather was more interested in me after my grandmother taught me a few simple things to say. He was absolutely thrilled that his long-lost American relatives were learning a little German. (BTW, I ended up learning a decent amount from watching movies... Das Boot and Wings of Desire are a few that come to mind. Still two of my favorites.)
cheers
Damion
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Just to chip in: I believed for years the whole dubbed-vs-subtitled movies, and I'm glad to hear reaffirmation of the same from those in other countries (Netherlands, Norway, etc). One other source that's usually underestimated is of course video games! (as mentioned by our Norwegian friend). All foreign gamers speak considerably better English than non-gamers.
English is becoming the lingua franca, just like Latin was before that, and Greek before that.
Any guesses on which one will be the next one?
My guess is going to Chinese, with second some dialect from India.
Cheers!