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Title: GoldenGate 486SLC and OS3.9
Post by: keropi on January 27, 2007, 08:56:14 PM
Hello!

I installed the v1.31.27 GoldMineI disk on my HD using the install disk, but when I open any of the gg icons, like digger or setup, nothing happens!
I tried booting with the disk, and the icons work, is there an update available??? for 3.9 ????    :-?  :-?  :-?

also, anyone knows how much faster is the SLC2 50mhz board?
thanks!!!!  
Title: Re: GoldenGate 486SLC and OS3.9
Post by: cv643d on January 27, 2007, 10:35:24 PM
Do you use a Zorro busboard?

GoldenGate did not work on my Elbox busboard, only in my A4000D.
Title: Re: GoldenGate 486SLC and OS3.9
Post by: keropi on January 28, 2007, 01:47:58 AM
I use the original 4000 revB busboard...
I also use it with an ISA 1MB 5420 vga...
Title: Re: GoldenGate 486SLC and OS3.9
Post by: amigadave on January 28, 2007, 01:57:37 AM
What OS are you running on the GG?  I have not used my 486SLC in years, but remember that even with an ISA graphics card, sound card and IDE controller, the 486SLC @25mHz was painfully slow running Win3.1.  DOS 6.22 was okay, but I have bad memories of Windows in any form on the GG.
Title: Re: GoldenGate 486SLC and OS3.9
Post by: keropi on January 28, 2007, 02:10:20 AM
os? I cannot even get the damn thing started , lol!

edit: I plan to use it to play some dos games that play full speed on 386sx/20 , like alone in the dark, scorched earth, commander keen stuf...
old dos games... at least I hope I can play ! lol
Title: Re: GoldenGate 486SLC and OS3.9
Post by: Jakodemus on January 28, 2007, 07:52:19 AM
Have you tried it without the vga-card? Are you sure that the GC is connected properly? When the GC boots it should make a few beeps through it's pcspeaker.
Title: Re: GoldenGate 486SLC and OS3.9
Post by: spirantho on January 28, 2007, 10:09:46 AM
The GG runs fine under OS 3.9 (does here anyway!).

Do you say that booting off the disk makes the GG work (you say the icons work - what do you mean?)?

Run snoopdos and see what it comes up with - it must be missing a file somewhere.
Title: Re: GoldenGate 486SLC and OS3.9
Post by: keropi on January 28, 2007, 11:21:37 AM
I will test without the vga, but I have no ega monitor to plug... at least I will heare the 2 beeps...
By icons I mean the icon programs of the GG, those are: miner, setup , server, server setup. those do nothing when opened from HD on my OS3,9 installation. snoopdos does not give any info either, there is no "fail" ...
Title: Re: GoldenGate 486SLC and OS3.9
Post by: keropi on January 28, 2007, 12:18:58 PM
do u get any kind of gfx corruption from the ISA card?
sometimes the lines are missing from the boot screen, some times some characters are wrong... I even had flashing wrong characters once lol
my pc experience says the vga is busted... mauybe that is why with a full os3,9 it won't work....

edit: tried without the ISA vga, still nothing on normal 3.9 boot...

edit2: I had better success by installing the GG on the top slot, the CLI commands work on the 3,9 , only thing I get wrong characters from ISA vga... gonna try another soon...
Title: Re: GoldenGate 486SLC and OS3.9
Post by: keropi on January 28, 2007, 07:56:48 PM
damn, this is what I get, with another working on a pc vga, and other mem chips...

most times just freezes there....

(http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p55/restqp/gg-err.jpg)
Title: Re: GoldenGate 486SLC and OS3.9
Post by: keropi on January 28, 2007, 10:17:19 PM
:bump:

it sux I cannot get it working....
I highly suspect the MK2, as it also has probs with the kickflash.
Title: Re: GoldenGate 486SLC and OS3.9
Post by: Jakodemus on January 29, 2007, 08:02:40 AM
You should try reseatting the GG. I had a similar screen too, but after few reseattings the card started working.
Title: Re: GoldenGate 486SLC and OS3.9
Post by: spirantho on January 29, 2007, 10:20:20 AM
For what it's worth I get a very minor graphical corruption sometimes on the boot display (sometimes a few characters out), but it always runs fine.
I'm running my GG on an A1500 with an Apollo 2030@50MHz, 32MB RAM with Picasso II and Catweasel cards. The PC side has a 8-bit 3Com Etherlink II network card and a Soundblaster II 8-bit ISA card, with a 16bit Cirrus Logic-based 1Mb SVGA "Thunderbolt ISA".

You have tried disabling your CPU caches and stuff I presume...?
Title: Re: GoldenGate 486SLC and OS3.9
Post by: keropi on January 29, 2007, 11:00:09 AM
reseatting? Tried it in all 3 possible slots...

never tried to turn off cpu caches and such... I will try though with the orinal 030 to see if it works... even alone in the bus (except a videoslot sd) the card doesn't work OK, only the mk2 is left to be tested...
Title: Re: GoldenGate 486SLC and OS3.9
Post by: spirantho on January 29, 2007, 11:18:09 AM
I used to run it in my OS 3.0 A4000 until I towerised it (it only had a 68030@25 at the time)... but when I towered it it stopped working completely as it just doesn't get on with the Eagle backplane. I've never tried (or been able to try) with my CS-PPC.

You could also try disabling FastMem. That may slow down the CPU enough to run it nicely. Maybe...!
Title: Re: GoldenGate 486SLC and OS3.9
Post by: keropi on January 29, 2007, 12:07:59 PM
I will try that also...
Title: Re: GoldenGate 486SLC and OS3.9
Post by: keropi on January 29, 2007, 04:44:15 PM
just as I suspected....
I tried with the ec030/25 card (with an AGA display, pIV one was dead slow) the GG works fine...
why is the mk2 plagued with so many probs? bah...  :madashell:

EDIT: tried the command "cpu nocache" before gg , and it works! there are some floppy disk issues though... it cannot always understand the inserted disk... the 030 again worked fine.  :madashell:  :madashell:  :madashell:
Title: Re: GoldenGate 486SLC and OS3.9
Post by: spirantho on January 29, 2007, 05:26:06 PM
It's plagued with problems because the OS was never designed for a 68060 so the GG was never expecting such a fast CPU.

Have you tried it with no FastRAM or no CPU caches? If that works you could just write a little script to disable caches and/or FastRAM, run Digger, and then re-enable them after it's booted.