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Title: 060 upgrade!
Post by: PG on January 26, 2007, 11:53:40 PM
Well, im proud to say that i think i have everything needed if you have a A1200/040 turbocard and are thinking of upgrading to 060.
I also do repairs, upgrades of A1200 turbocards.
Please dont hesitate to contact me if you want help with a A1200 accelerator card.
Title: Re: 060 upgrade!
Post by: amazing on January 26, 2007, 11:55:38 PM
u think a blizzard 030@50mhz can be upgraded to 060?
Title: Re: 060 upgrade!
Post by: PG on January 26, 2007, 11:58:28 PM
No way...:)
Title: Re: 060 upgrade!
Post by: darksun9210 on January 27, 2007, 12:00:55 AM
awesome!
but what about an A1200 blizzard PPC board?
i have a 040 based PPC card, and an 060 chip in a box -which i want to swap with the 040, but i'm hampered by a pronounced lack of courage when it comes to waving a soldering iron around either!  :lol:
 
Title: Re: 060 upgrade!
Post by: prowler on January 27, 2007, 12:13:20 AM
I have to agree, I personally would not want to try and upgrade the BPPC card I have in fear of breaking it :P Having said that, I would really love to upgrade the 040/25 on it to an 060.
Title: Re: 060 upgrade!
Post by: darksun9210 on January 27, 2007, 12:49:04 AM
yeah, i'm tempted to look for another PPC board in case this one dies for some reason (touch wood, throw salt over shoulder, tug forlock, *insert random superstitious act to ward off bad luck here*), so melting stuff off of it really doesn't bear thinking about!  :lol:
Title: Re: 060 upgrade!
Post by: PG on January 27, 2007, 01:17:24 AM
Oh, come on..:)
If you have a 040 just upgrade it.
Title: Re: 060 upgrade!
Post by: darksun9210 on January 27, 2007, 01:33:17 AM
hmmmm... on the blizzard PPC have you seen the size of the jumpers you have to move around to change the CPU voltage from 5volts to 3.3volts? magnifying glass, a solid board mount, and a steady hand.
i'm not even going to go into getting to the jumpers for the bus speed multiplier for the PPC - which if i remember rightly, are under the clock generators, or the oscilator selecter for the 68k chip, cos really with an 060, i'd like it to run off the same crystal as generates the PPC bus clock so it is as syncronous as possible. the fact it'd be 66Mhz would be only a side benifit :-D

then there is the daunting 200 odd pins of the 040 to desolder, and of the 060 to resolder.

its all too scary for me   :-o
Title: Re: 060 upgrade!
Post by: nine3o on January 27, 2007, 03:11:34 AM
I have an 040/200 Blizzard card, out of curiosity, where are you located and how much to upgrade?  
Title: Re: 060 upgrade!
Post by: countzero on January 27, 2007, 05:39:41 AM
Hmm, do you think a 040 turbo board for A2000 can be upgraded to 060 ?
Title: Re: 060 upgrade!
Post by: PG on January 27, 2007, 10:17:18 AM
darksun9210: yeah, youre right, its not the easiest job to do.

nine3o: im located in Sweden and the price for a upgrade is 1250 SEK (Swedish Crowns) +shipping.
Title: Re: 060 upgrade!
Post by: PG on January 27, 2007, 10:18:59 AM
Countzero: im sorry, but i only have the parts and knowledge to upgrade A1200 040 turbocards.
Title: Re: 060 upgrade!
Post by: ddniUK on January 27, 2007, 12:00:39 PM
I am still interested in getting my BPPC 040 upgraded.

What insurance do you offer in case you kill my card?

Title: Re: 060 upgrade!
Post by: PG on January 27, 2007, 01:33:03 PM
This is a good question.
We are talking of old hardware and even though i have successfully upgraded many 040 cards by now there is always a risk involved.
Of course if your card dies after the upgrade i will try to make it up to you.
Currently i have no BPPC in stock but i could replace your BPPC with a 060 card instead.
Hopefully nothing goes wrong but then you at least have that guarantee.
Let me also tell you that i use professional tools, i have access to both hot-air and regular desoldering / soldering tools.

Why i cant give guarantees against intermittent faults is because they could just as well have nothing to do with the upgrade and very hard to find before doing the upgrade.
So there is no point in sending me a intermittent faulty card and hope to get it replaced with a working 060 card.. ;-)
Title: Re: 060 upgrade!
Post by: alexh on January 27, 2007, 02:35:09 PM
Send the items through insured mail, if something goes wrong make a claim and say it was damaged in the mail!
Title: Re: 060 upgrade!
Post by: Chain on January 27, 2007, 07:51:38 PM
i have blizz 1240/40 and im really tempted

can it be upgraded to 060/60 (66?)

/me goes to calculate exchange rate
Title: Re: 060 upgrade!
Post by: PG on January 27, 2007, 08:38:03 PM
MC68060RC50 with mask 1E41J (the cpu that i use) is very good for overclocking (with active cooling).
At least 60Mhz should be possible with your Blizzard but i have to admit, i have never tried overclocking with a Blizzard 1260 card...
But as long as you dont use a scsi kit it should be no problem, i think.
Title: Re: 060 upgrade!
Post by: Ral-Clan on January 27, 2007, 09:02:41 PM
Is it only the Blizzard boards that can be upgraded to an 060, or can any 040 board made by any manufacturer be upgraded to an 060?
Title: Re: 060 upgrade!
Post by: alexh on January 27, 2007, 09:16:02 PM
The board had to have been designed originally to be either
Title: Re: 060 upgrade!
Post by: delshay on January 27, 2007, 10:37:18 PM
the hardest part of any upgrade is removing the solder without damaging the tracks or anything else..
Title: Re: 060 upgrade!
Post by: c64_d0c on January 28, 2007, 01:06:28 AM
what the h*ll have this guy smoked latley???..... some old sox??... its a h*ll of a job to do this s*it... and even then its not sure it will  work!... i say lets keep what the you have, enjoy it as long it work!, dont try to fix thing you dont understand. it maybe give you a borked card!

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Title: Re: 060 upgrade!
Post by: AmiDude on January 28, 2007, 01:15:22 AM
Yeah, keep things originally, or you might get
run into problems...
 :pint:
Title: Re: 060 upgrade!
Post by: PG on January 28, 2007, 10:10:40 AM
Quote

c64_d0c wrote:
what the h*ll have this guy smoked latley???..... some old sox??... its a h*ll of a job to do this s*it... and even then its not sure it will  work!... i say lets keep what the you have, enjoy it as long it work!, dont try to fix thing you dont understand. it maybe give you a borked card!

Edited by Argo: Profanity


Well, i sure havent smoked the same thing that you has?
What do you know..???
Maybe you should do some background checking before you open your mouth.

I NEVER recommend anyone tempted to upgrade a 040 board to do it if they dont have the skills needed.
However, i think there is a lot of skilled people on this forum, your not only insulting me but them also...
Title: Re: 060 upgrade!
Post by: PG on January 28, 2007, 10:21:59 AM
Quote

AmiDude wrote:
Yeah, keep things originally, or you might get
run into problems...
 :pint:


Even if you have the skills and tools needed you shouldnt upgrade your computer if there is a risk involved?
Where do you draw the line?
Title: Re: 060 upgrade!
Post by: delshay on January 28, 2007, 10:26:24 AM
anyone who has being changeing CPUS & has access to ( professionl ) tools & also has been doing it for some time has some level of skill..

there was a mod lately where someone changed a 040 to 060 there was a few marks here & there but i give marks 10 out of 10..it worked
Title: Re: 060 upgrade!
Post by: TiredOLife on January 28, 2007, 10:36:52 AM
Well it's up to the individual to choose for themselves.
Never had an 040 so I don't really know what the difference
in performance would be during actual usage.
Have gone from 030 to 060 in the past.
Wouldn't be without my 060 now. (Until there is a new PPC).
Wouldn't have the knackers to do it myself, but PG says he has done it many times before.  
Title: Re: 060 upgrade!
Post by: delshay on January 28, 2007, 11:08:57 AM
if PG says he does this all the time ( changing CPUS ),its a easy job to do..but sometimes things can go wrong,but the risk should be low due-to the amount of times its done before..