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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Marketplace => Topic started by: amiga92570 on January 25, 2007, 02:24:16 PM

Title: Selling Picasso IV
Post by: amiga92570 on January 25, 2007, 02:24:16 PM: Hi I am Selling a Picasso IV on Ebay. Free shipping worldwide if price excedes $250.00. The card had a scan doubler sync problem. I shipped it to Amiga France and received it back last month. It works Pefect. I will probably have more amiga items for sale shortly. My Ebay user name is ds92570 if you would like to check out my auctions. thanks

Item number: 260079676559
Title: Re: Selling Picasso IV
Post by: amiga92570 on January 31, 2007, 04:11:43 PM: Price is over $250.00. Free Shipping!!!!
Title: Re: Selling Picasso IV
Post by: polbit2 on January 31, 2007, 10:58:23 PM: $550?!? Wow!!
Title: Re: Selling Picasso IV
Post by: JaXanim on January 31, 2007, 11:03:41 PM: Blimey!

It's already reached more than the original purchase price!
I always said PIVs were an investment!

JaX
Title: Re: Selling Picasso IV
Post by: stopthegop on January 31, 2007, 11:09:23 PM: More than that. I could have bought onoe at the St. Louis Gateway Amiga show back in 1998 for $225. Unfortunately I didn't. :(
Title: Re: Selling Picasso IV
Post by: stopthegop on January 31, 2007, 11:21:57 PM: Is Village Tronic still in business, run by the same people? They have to have noticed the high prices P-IV boards are getting as well as the number of bids and overall interest they elicit when they go up for auction. Why on earth won't they capitalize on that with a re-release, or even better, an upgrade? :-D Wishful thinking, I know. But it seems to me they could make some money with a rerun of the P-IV, perhaps even the first ever profit making venture in Amiga Hardware! :lol:
Title: Re: Selling Picasso IV
Post by: Plaz on January 31, 2007, 11:41:02 PM: @stopthegop

Too busy with other hardware these days. A few hundred cards for Amiga probably doesn't show up on their radar any more. Maybe if they released technical info, some one else my be intnerested in a re-release or new card.

http://www.villagetronic.com/ (http://www.villagetronic.com/)

Plaz
Title: Re: Selling Picasso IV
Post by: amiga92570 on January 31, 2007, 11:43:00 PM: I think Village sold the rights to someone else. Before I shipped this mentioned card to Amiga centre I tried to obtain schematics and info to repair myself. They said they had no info and the gentleman searched archives and same result. Thank goodness Amiga Centre still has info and does repairs. :-D
Title: Re: Selling Picasso IV
Post by: Tahoe on February 01, 2007, 08:07:12 AM: Forget about Villagetronic. The person who did the Picasso IV quit VT not long after it's release. This person tragically died taking all knowledge with him.
Title: Re: Selling Picasso IV
Post by: alexh on February 01, 2007, 08:41:18 AM: It is sad about the death of lead designer Klaus Burkert (2001) but what you say about him is not true.

He was still working at VT in 1999, two years after the launch of the Picasso IV.

It is also not true that "he took all knowledge with him". Klaus worked as the leader of a team and one member of that team and close friend of Klaus, Tobias Seiler, was left the rights to all VillageTronic Amiga designs that Klaus and he worked on.

Tobias is currently working at a University (as a student) but he has already helped me get updated chips for my PIV and plans to make some more products / offer services in the future.
Title: Re: Selling Picasso IV
Post by: Plaz on February 17, 2007, 04:22:30 AM: Quote
Tobias is currently working at a University (as a student) but he has already helped me get updated chips for my PIV and plans to make some more products / offer services in the future.

Interesting news. What kind of updated did you get for your picasso? Does his future plans include classic hardware?

Plaz
Title: Re: Selling Picasso IV
Post by: Tahoe on February 17, 2007, 10:36:38 PM: Sorry, might have gotten some details wrong, got those from a guy who gave me Tobias' mail adress.

Tobias has now fixed one of my Picasso IV's for me. (wasn't recognised at all)
I do know he's got a bunch (quite a bit actually) spareparts from either klaus or VT.

Hope he takes it further, or is able to help more people out by upgrading or fixing P4's.
Title: Re: Selling Picasso IV
Post by: whiteb on February 18, 2007, 01:27:29 AM: Well perhaps suggesting to Tobias, that Picasso IV's are in a demand state, which might warrant a production run. Assuming he has enough of the knowledge to accomplish a fresh production run.
Title: Re: Selling Picasso IV
Post by: Fizzy on February 18, 2007, 01:39:57 AM: Hmmm... This is interesting. Can Tobias get hold of replacement Flicker Fixer chips? I believe thats whats gone on mine, as I get an output/sync signal, but just a blank picture..
Title: Re: Selling Picasso IV
Post by: gdanko on February 18, 2007, 02:27:58 AM: man do I hate eBay.
Title: Re: Selling Picasso IV
Post by: Tahoe on February 18, 2007, 10:26:57 AM: Quote

whiteb wrote:
Well perhaps suggesting to Tobias, that Picasso IV's are in a demand state, which might warrant a production run. Assuming he has enough of the knowledge to accomplish a fresh production run.

C'mon, we've past that station before. In no way is there to be another production run, for several reasons. One would be a it needs a complete redesign, most parts used in the P4 are no longer available.
Let alone the very strict new RoHS guidelines, if you were to acquire the parts needed they are lickely to hold lead, which is no longer accepted in electronic designs made and sold in Europe.

You're best bet would be to redesign a completely new card; in which the Flicker Fixer parts is probably the most easy to (re-)implement.