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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: Starke on January 24, 2007, 02:14:10 AM
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Dear Fellow Amiga Nuts,
I am in need of a new mobile soonish, and I desire to have an Amiga mobile. not sure if this exists exactly(or what brand to get), but can any one advise me how I can support the Amiga company when getting a mobile?
Is it possible to have an Amigs os mobile?
Also, with the new os4 coming out for sale early april, will the company be bringing out the os4 and standalone devices, such as a mobile? I know the Amiga os4 will have a new Amiga computer with it, specs unknown to me at the moment, and this will be a stand alone operating system.
Also, os4, will not be able to be an emulator at the moment, which is fine for me, as I plan on getting the new pps or whatever they call it, but what should my friends do who arent exactly nuts about Amiga, but prefer it over Microsofts absolute {bleep}?? Should they get Winuae emultor 3.9? as in Amiga 3.9 emulated? Or should they wait a bit?
Thank you kindly Amiga Buds,
Phillip 8-)
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I thought OS4 was out already.
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A couple of things here,
One, maybe it is already out in other parts of the world?
Two, MOST importantly, Amigainnovation.com, dwayne osborne, has told me I cannot buy the system as yet, as it will not be coming out until Early April.
Three, RELATING, to above, why would he say this, if he were able to get it already.
So in short my friend, I am 85% certain that I cannot get it as yet, and that it isnt out yet.
As far as I can tell, its only a beta version thats out, for testing, and people can use this. Besides, The actual os4 will not be able to be used as an emulator, atleast not until Amiga Inc and Hyperion decide to change this.
Cheers 8-)
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The OS4 final update has been released to those who bought the Amiga 1's when they were available.There is as yet no new hardware licensed to be bundled with OS4 as yet!You say you have been quoted early April for delivery of new System!Have you been given any details as to the specification of this new Amiga?
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Dear Mick The Lip,
Firstly, are you Micheal Milic? If so, Im Phillip, I emailed you a few days ago, Im stephen Hattons friend.
Not as yet, but I will keep you posted with updates, as I am constantly in the process of emailing my contacts for updates, I am sure they will tell me more at a later stage.
At the moment Dwayne Osborne, from Amiga Innovations, has only told me that the Plans are to bring it out early April.
OK, You say the OS4 has already been released to those who bought Amiga1's, are these Amiga1's the 933Mhz pps systems? If no what are they and how long ago was it when they were on the market for sale via Amiga?
What Im talking about though are totally new Amiga 1's if they are even going to call it this, will be totally Amiga built computer whereby the OS4 will be a stand alone operating system on them. No as far as I know, this they have not yet released.
If they have, gimme links and stuff, and I will buy asap.
Over and out.
Phillip 8-)
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Starke wrote:
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Two, MOST importantly, Amigainnovation.com, dwayne osborne, has told me I cannot buy the system as yet, as it will not be coming out until Early April.
Cheers 8-)
Dwayne Osb' eh, there's a familiar name.
Is he still doing Amiga stuff, I thought hed moved on to another obscure and expensive technology? :-P
...Guess we'll just have to wait till "Early April" and see what happens (or doesnt).
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No I'm not that Michael.AS for the New Amiga being released early April I would really hope that this would happen but I'm also aware of April the first and all that can go with it.
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Michael man, relax, you seem a little tense and negative about it all. Lets see, Amiga has had plenty of time, along side with Hyperion, to get this organised, I'm sure they will bring it out, I mean, If they dont, then they already will need to update their os4 and Amiga computer system that goes with it.
AMIGA 8-)
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I like many people have heard of imminent release of OS4 Systems for many years now.In the meantime I've got 5 Amiga systems to restore expand and explore.Certainly beats twiddling your thumbs and waiting for the new hardware to appear.Like a lot of Amigans any hint of OS4 and hardware being released is looked into with interest especially when timelines for hardware are quoted.
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5 systems, well done mate.
I see your point for the questioning now, after you've told me what you did.
Still, Ive only been back in the game a week and 3 days, and Ive learnt heaps.
Im not twiddling, Ive got a 64, with various Amiga parts connected to it. I know, it takes the large disks nd all, but there are still some games I play on it.
But I dont see a point for me getting an Amiga system right now, until Amiga come out with OS4 on their new Amiga computer, partly because of my 3 running and 2 not pc's, which will be emulated today, as Im expecting the package to arrive.
SO, IN SHORT
If I did get an older Amiga now, It would be the Amiga 4000T with the luminescent Amiga symbol.
8-)
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So you've got the good old 64 just got one for my autistic stepson as he's worn out the last one.An amazing little computer which people are still finding ways to get it to do more than ever it was origionally made to do.
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Kool. Good to hear.
NOW:
but can any one advise me how I can support the Amiga company when getting a mobile? The rest of questions are in the first original post I posted.
You seem Like you know a lot, can you tell me What would be a good mobile to get that would support the OS4? or even an early Amiga OS?
And if its a PDA, by all means tell me.
Cheers Michael
Phillip
P.S.Or anyone else that can help me! 8-)
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Getting back on thread OS4 is still only available for those who bought systems with it.Unfortunately untill new hardware is made available then the userbase is going to slowly shrink as hardware expires.It would be interesting to know how many copies of OS4 at present are no longer being used because of hardware failure.As far as OS4 ever being used on phones personally I would think that's highly unlikely.
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Then whats with all the PDA shots, mobile shots and all on the Amiga website??
I dont mind not having os4 on my mobile or PDA, Id just have 3.9 then, thats fine.
The bigger Question is, what do I have to do, do retreive a mobile or PDA that allows me to run Amiga on it?
Also, Is it at all possible to have a device like this, that only runs Amiga OS, or does it have to be a windows Mobile or PDA whereby Amiga os3.9 is running over it?
Thank you
Kind Regards
Amiga Freak 8-)
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I haven't really read the Amiga.com site in maybe 5 years. Bt, as far as I last knew, OS4.0 was never intended to run on anything except "New" Amigas, ie AmigaOne and later desktop systems. I was in attendance when Amiga Inc made their official announcements about the future of AmigaOS. I have a pretty good picture of what they had planned. I do believe they might do less than they planned (already true), not /more/.
What I assume you are seeing on their site is another product line of Amiga Inc's, that has almost nothing to do with genuine Amigas, "Classic", AmigaOne, or otherwise.
OS4.0 really is released, that is a fact. Unless you should encounter someone willing to part with his/her AmigaOne, you are out of luck for being able to use it, unless you are one of the few who are somehow running it on CyberStormPPC boards (which I wish I were!) There is no such official release for "Classic" Amigas.
No offence, but I don't think anyone will believe your word about new hardware in April. First of all, we probably would have heard it somewhere else by now, and second, we've heard so many promises and dates, and "1Q2004" etc. over the years we don't believe any release dates anymore unless they actually happen, as in, past tense!
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Thats ok, I cant expect people to understand what I mean all the time.
Let me rephrase, is there a company that Amiga is in conjunction with that produces mobiles or PDA's, and hence, some royalties will go towards the Amiga company if such an Item is purchased?
Also, I believe Amiga would be wise if they allow there OS, or atleast some type of OS to be used on Mobiles and PDA's, as then we may see more of an expansion in the Product line in future.
Plus, I desire to have Amiga with me wherever I go, so it would seem unreasonable to think that there arent many people who can see the benefits of this company in multitasking alone, hence, the company must surely realise by now their potential to start running more of the market.
Cheers
8-)
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hasn't the sam board been approved of by amiga inc????
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The sam board? If you could explain a little more that would save me looking it up.
Or just gimme a link and I'll read all the information over it. Thank you
Cheers 8-)
Actually, even if you explain, gimme a link anyway thats useful over this board.
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I hate to kill your enthusiasm, because believe me, I wish I still had it. But, I get the impression Amiga Inc. are just trying to keep their paychecks getting paid, rather than trying to capitalise on anything worthwhile.
It is very possible to run any one of the given Amiga emulators on a PC laptop (maybe even Mac?). I have one set up that way, but unfortunately, the particular emulator I bought doesn't support networking or sound on my particular laptop. I suspect it would work on almost any other laptop.
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Thats fine mate.
Its not just enthusiasm though, I honestly can see I gap here, and I think Amiga would be extremely Insane if they didnt take it this time round, coz then, Hate to say it, Amiga may well be a thing of the past.
And that would be Unexceptable to me, and many others, including younger folk, that were born in 88.
I wasnt, Im older.
Here are two links mate.
http://www.amigainnovations.com/
http://os4.hyperion-entertainment.biz/index.php%3Foption=content&task=blogsection&id=6&Itemid=30.html
Enjoy!! 8-)
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Starke wrote:
Then whats with all the PDA shots, mobile shots and all on the Amiga website??
Amiga Inc don't have anything to do with the Amiga computer any more. A group of investors purchased the 'Amiga' brand and name several years ago in order to use it as branding for selling PDA games.
They had ideas to sell something called 'Amiga DE' (an old version of Tao's 'Intent' with a few Amiga Inc pieces tacked on) to PDA and mobile phone makers, and hoped to coax Amiga users and developers to write programs and games for this new system. This didn't happen, and very few 'Amiga DE' games have been released, but the ones that have, you can purchase from the Amiga.com shop. These are the screenshots you see on the website.
It is nothing to do with Amiga computers or Amiga OS.
I dont mind not having os4 on my mobile or PDA, Id just have 3.9 then, thats fine.
The bigger Question is, what do I have to do, do retreive a mobile or PDA that allows me to run Amiga on it?
You can't have any version of AmigaOS on a mobile phone or PDA (unless it's running UAE). Amiga DE games run on Windows, Windows Mobile, and PocketPC so if you want to support Amiga Inc, just buy a smartphone with Windows Mobile (I think Motorola make some, such as the Motorola Q), or PocketPC (such as the Samsung i700) then go to Amiga.com, buy some of their games and install them.
Also, Is it at all possible to have a device like this, that only runs Amiga OS, or does it have to be a windows Mobile or PDA whereby Amiga os3.9 is running over it?
It is not AmigaOS. It is 'Amiga DE' (later changed to 'Amiga Anywhere') built on Tao's 'Intent' running hosted on PocketPC, Linux, or Windows. This is nothing to do with the Amiga computer or OS.
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Excellent, thats more like it, someone who is answering my questions, rather than asking a question on top of a question.
Thank you kindly dear sir, I geuss I will in that case get either a motorola or samsung. Any others you know of?
A more important question for my sake, SO, is Amiga alive and well? And is Amiga actually Hyperion? or is Hyperion working for Amiga Inc. who now may have decided to make a new Amiga computer with OS4 on it, for release in Early April?
Thank you
Kind regards
8-)
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Starke wrote:
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I think Amiga would be extremely Insane if they didnt take it this time round, coz then, Hate to say it, Amiga may well be a thing of the past...
Ainc are "extremely insane".
Brief history lesson;
There -was- an opportunity lift the brands profile, put it all over a bunch of hardware gadgets, MP3 players, phones, Amiga-in-a-joystick, games compilations ect and create a new desktop OS alternative.
Over the last 5+ years Ainc have repeatedly failed to capitalise on the brand. Here's one example;
The OS was available in beta on extremely expensive PPC based hardware; (anyone want a buggy AUD$1000+ motherboard?), now the OS is finally out of beta, the hardware has dried up, so there's nothing to run it on.
Do you see the problem?
Most people are now content with classic hardware and/or emulation.
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You are an interesting and entertaining character arent you!
Maybe, if you and many other supposed supporters of Amiga wouldve actually gotton others around you to also purchase the emulators, Amiga may have been able to actually have these gizmos now.
Oh well, its not quiet over yet, and Amiga will still be out there, and the more people Amiga enthusiasts get to use the 3.9 OS or any type of Amiga computers with OS4, the more likely it will be that the next time you look out your window, you will see a young Kid holding a PDA Amiga OS system running on it, or a mobile with an Amiga standalone OS running on it!
Simple isnt it, its called marketing, but I dont see any people helping Amiga out here, all what they seem to be doing, even in my other post(esp) is being negative and biased towards their own Kind, have you all gone Microsoft crazy???
Look, what Im trying to say, is yes, you are right about the past, but we are the ones who determine the future, I am young, and so far Ive met one other young chap on this site, so if we get more of a market here, then the future will look Brighter for Amiga.
Im now officially off to training, and then to go out for a boys night out. And yes, Ive already hooked two out of the 12 boys onto getting the Amiga emulator, thanks for wanting to ask!
SUPPORT YOUR AMIGA! If you hate other platforms, I repeat this : SUPPORT YOUR AMIGA! Its easy, just grab some paper, print some cards with useful informative websites about Amiga OS4 and AMiga Emulators, and distribute.
Oh yeah, And tell all your friends, mates, man even aquaintances to atleast have a read of some of the fantastic amiga sites out there.
Cheers
Ill be back tomorow AMIGA Fanatics 8-)
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Starke wrote:
You are an interesting and entertaining character arent you!
Heh, I would say the same about you, but Ive heard this old revivalist rhetoric so many times before, the entertainment quality is now somewhat lacking.
Just because this big Amiga revival idea has only just occured to you, doesnt mean it hasnt been heard before on this forum to the point that its now dull and predictable.
I wonder if you realise just how obtuse you're being?
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Maybe, if you and many other supposed supporters of Amiga wouldve actually gotton others around you to also purchase the emulators, Amiga may have been able to actually have these gizmos now.
Amiga Inc are not interested in Amiga, at all. I thought this became clear already.
Oh well, its not quiet over yet
Oh yes it is. It was over 10 years ago already.
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Finally someone showed up on this site, knowing less about the Amiga Situation as I ... Yahoooo....
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Amigainnovation.com <--- There ist no such site... Damn... Youre talking Bulls...
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http://www.amigainnovations.com/
(Egg Somewhere in that fridge?)
LOOK AT IT
Its based in western australia, so ofcourse there wont be much to see here, as Australia, the Amiga isnt a Kult computer here.
and if it is, well, then I find it strange that there are no community functions with Amigas here then.
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I'm sure there's a breach of the posting guidelines in there somewhere.
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ODIN:
What breach(erham erham)thanks, I didnt realise I had actually posted it, and I like this site a lot, so in a way, u helped me to stay on it.
I have edited the text already now. Cheers mate.
Your fellow young Amigian
starke 8-)
P.S. So are you into runes? and the Elder Futhark writings?
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LANDO:
And Amiga Community:
I've looked up both Samsung i700 and Motorola Q.
I was just wishing to know, If there are any other Mobiles or PDA's that I could buy that may be supporting Amiga software.I ask, as I do not know all the possible models that allow this.
Ive read mobilezone.
On this note, I was hoping to run an Amiga OS on this Mobile or PDA, but a standalone OS.
Can anyone suggest some good model PDA's or phones, that are good with the Amiga OS?
Ive gone to Amiga.com already.
Also, Ive gone to the AROS site.
Thank you
Kind Regards
Your Amiga Pal,
And Your Crusader (smiles)
Starke 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)
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I haven't done this in years....
PLONK!
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Shillard:
I havent done this in years.....
PINNER!
Cheers mate,
Oh yeah, and thanks for your limited edition help.
Kind Regards
Without Delay,
Amiga Man 8-) 8-)
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I`d go for emmulator running, rather than os, easyer to configure.
I`ve had my a1g4ppc running os4.0 since 2004
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Mucker:
(not to do with mobile)(Computer instead)
I am running emulator also, as well as having my Amiga 1000.
Was wondering, Ive been meaning to run the emulator as a boot, so it doesnt show xp on bootup at all, and not in the background either, despite it being there.
Is there a quick way to do this, and how?
Or must I research this myself, or you guys in here willing to gimme the info?
cheers 8-) 8-)
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iamaboringperson:
Errrhhhhhhhh???
You didnt write anything, so why post? 8-)
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yeah whatever, get a phone save some cash and you get better reception.
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There was an AROS port for the PalmPilot
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@Argo and anyone else that can help:
Any suggestions on what PDA, Palm Pilot or Mobile to get that will allow me to use Amiga on it??
Also, whats the better models for this??
Cheers! 8-) 8-)
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The most portable way to have Workbench on the go is probably a tablet PC with an Amiga emulator on it.
I'm not a big fan of the idea but no doubt it would be a novel thing to try until someone comes up with their own touchscreen drivers and concept design.