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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: kenwood on January 22, 2007, 01:17:22 AM
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Hi all.
I'll just give a quick intro, as I have just joined, and returned to the fold of Amiga after a 5 year hiatus.
Live in Australia, and have many old Amiga's (and Commodore) machines here (1000, 2000, 3000, CD32 with FMV). All still function (even the Vic-20!!).
I read recenelt about teh OS4, and although I have been a 'fringe' dweller in the last number of years as regard to Amiga (I used to run user groups and publish a small magazine in the 80's and 90's), the bite is back.
Trouble is, I can see a recuring pattern here.
Does anyone have a 'door' into Amiga Inc that we can expolit to find out what is the over all plan here? I thought Commodore were hard to deal with, but Amiga Inc seem infinetly worse. Why is it so difficult for them to communicate with teh people trying to help keep this thing alive.
And now, with Vista looming as a large shaddow on the horizon, is an excellent time to demonstrate an alternative. OK, they are not going to sell millions of machines, maybe only thousands at first, but if the message is out there, and it is in peoples mind, they may check it out. Especially those from the past who's PC's are probably ready for an update anyway.
So, am I living in fantasy world?? Is there some other 'official' way we can 'kick some ass', or are we going to watch the last embers die, toast an old friend, and have the odd memorial in it's memory?
What about a petition to Amiga Inc for some communication?
I am interested in others thoughts.
Take care one and all. Lets hope this is a Happy New Year.
Regards....
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Welcome to the fray.....
You make some interesting points. Personally I'd love to see some reliable stats as to how many 'active' amigaOS users there are globally.
AmigaOS will never replace M$, as they have too big a market share (the time for that is past - thanks CBM!) but it could strike a wedge into the market for, as you say; those ready for an upgrade but don't want vista type monsters. (during the pre-beta I saw 8+Gb install sizes on some of my machines!!!)
The Amiga OS has a lot of life left in it, but once again we are searching for that 'killer-app'. Is there one out there waiting in the wings perhaps? Games are covered, office and productivity tho the video or music markets could still be sidled into...
Anyhow, we live in hope, and until then continue to uphold the faith.
:lotsacoffee: back to my poorly solaris boxes....
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Hi Kenwood. Welcome to the nicest classic amiga hangout on the web. :-)
I'm happy with my classic Amiga's. I don't see much as far as the "next generation" coming into existance, so until someone starts putting out Hardware with the new OS, just be patient. Too much has been promised, and little has been produced before, so don't expect things to change soon. If it does, celebrate. For now, continue to enjoy your old stuff.
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Hi Kenwood, welcome to A.Org! I'll have to refrain from making any jokes about food blenders! :-D
Basically, I agree 100% with what Amiduffer said above - Amiga Inc doesn't appear to have a plan, and the "next generation" of "Amiga" hardware basically consists of a load of overpriced and underspecced rebadged PPC hardware - most of which isn't even available.
Stick with the golden oldies - much more fun! And there's always UAE and AROS to play with too!
- Ali
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I use my Amiga because my Amiga does everything I need it to do.
I cannot handle using M$oft products, nor the type of hardware they run on.
My Sparcstations do plenty of work for me, but for my personal use, I'd much rather use an Amiga.
I could care less what the Amiga future brings. But, it's just great when products like IBrowse 2.4 come along.
The bottom line is that if I need my Amiga to do something bad enough, I'll make it do it, no matter what. Even if that means running AmiWin and using the Amiga as a X-terminal!
My needs have spawned some very powerful applications that if I could ever finish them, I will release them so others can take advantage of them. I am working on one this moment, but, I have some that I have worked on on and off for 10 years that may never be finished!
I would have been the first in line to pre-order an AmigaOne, just like so many other Amiga products I bought, but, it's just too PC'ish. The ultimate deciding factor was SCSI. I have wayyyy too much SCSI hardware to have to downgrade to IDE. Not very happy about the PC style booting either.
If, the AmigaTwo has SCSI, and still acts and works like an Amiga, maybe I'll get one. If that never happens, so be it, I'll still use my A3000.
I have given up any hope for Amiga Inc. to do anything seriously productive. I lost my faith at the Gateway thing in 2001 hearing Bill McEwen. I just don't think Amiga Inc. has the intention of doing anything 100% Amiga-like!
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Yes, I agree with no faith in the Amiga Inc company. Just seems to me that now is a good time to do something (!?) but once again, snatching deffeat from the jaws of victory seems to be the age old issue.
While I respect your point of view (I am similar in my A2000 and A3000 still get used, A3000 has UX on it), I would still like to see some 'movement' on Amiga Inc's part.
All the best to you. I hope the old hardware still turns out to be reliable (knock on wood - no major issues now for 10 years - what PC owner can say that) :-)
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Hopefully, something Minimig-related will be forthcoming, so at least we can have "new" A500s to play with!
Amiga hardware does seem to do pretty well... I'm also amazed that the bulk of my Amiga floppy disks, some dating from 1989, are still readable (though these have all been backed up via a Catweasel just in case!) Considering these are just flimsy bits of magnetic-coated plastic and have been carted half way round the world by me, I'm very impressed!
- Ali