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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: Craven1200 on January 07, 2007, 06:20:18 PM
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hi,
i have some problems getting afa_os to run.
when i install it and add the afa_os_loader to the s-s
my system halts during boot (no errors/info whatsoever)
or when i get the WB shown i get an empty screen with only the titlebar,
im running:
OS3.9
Birdie
VisualPrefs
Powericons
Fullpalette
Blizkick (with homemade 44.1 rom) with patches
anyone had this problem before ?
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Craven1200 wrote:
hi,
i have some problems getting afa_os to run.
when i install it and add the afa_os_loader to the s-s
my system halts during boot (no errors/info whatsoever)
or when i get the WB shown i get an empty screen with only the titlebar,
im running:
OS3.9
Birdie
VisualPrefs
Powericons
Fullpalette
Blizkick (with homemade 44.1 rom) with patches
anyone had this problem before ?
Yep
You run ATE, right?
When I use to run it according to it's docs I had the same probs...it's better to run VisualPrefs, FullPalette, Birdie "on their own" for it to work.
I can post my startup-sequence if you want.
A helpful tip is also to check how they are set up in AmiKit..there's so many patches there running together and you can learn alot by studying how it's set up
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yeah i tried looking at amikit s-s
can't find much wrong with mine however and i discarded ate (i think, i dont know how much "garbage" it leaves on my system)
im also running WarpDT datatypes can those be a problem ?
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Craven1200 wrote:
yeah i tried looking at amikit s-s
can't find much wrong with mine however and i discarded ate (i think, i dont know how much "garbage" it leaves on my system)
im also running WarpDT datatypes can those be a problem ?
Nope
I run AfA sometimes but I commented it out of my SS but I can post my SS if you want..so you have a template
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yes please
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Craven1200 wrote:
yes please
Coming up :-)
Just gotta finish some chip ram testing on my A4000 :hammer:
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oki :)
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Ok, here's my startup-sequence
I thought I had AfA still in there but I had removed it, where you see IconBefast is the correct place to put the AfA OS Loader
; $VER: Startup-Sequence_HardDrive 45.2 (19.1.2001)
; Startup-Sequence for AmigaOS 3.9
C:BlizKick workbench:devs/kicka4000.rom QUIET
If EXISTS C:SquirrelSCSI
C:SquirrelSCSI
EndIf
Set SCSIUpdate 1
If EXISTS C:IDEFix
C:IDEFix
Set SCSIUpdate 0
EndIf
If EXISTS SYS:Expansion/XSurfIDE
Set SCSIUpdate 0
EndIf
If EXISTS SYS:Prefs/Env-Archive/NOSCSIUPDATE
Set SCSIUpdate 0
EndIf
If $SCSIUpdate EQ 1
SetPatch NOROMUPDATE QUIET
;BEGIN ShowAmiga96
C:env-handler
Workbench:Utilities/Expansion/ShowAmiga96/Bin/ShowAmiga96_Rev239C18
;END ShowAmiga96
StackAttack
Else
SetPatch SKIPROMUPDATES "scsi.device" QUIET
EndIf
Unset SCSIUpdate
C:PatchControl
C:TagLiFE
C:Version >NIL:
C:AddBuffers >NIL: DF0: 15
FailAt 21
C:MakeDir RAM:T RAM:Clipboards RAM:ENV RAM:ENV/Sys
;C:Copy >NIL: ENVARC: RAM:ENV ALL NOREQ
Resident >NIL: C:Assign PURE
Resident >NIL: C:Execute PURE
;Assign >NIL: ENV: RAM:ENV
Assign >NIL: T: RAM:T
Assign >NIL: CLIPS: RAM:Clipboards
Assign >NIL: REXX: S:
Assign >NIL: PRINTERS: DEVS:Printers
Assign >NIL: KEYMAPS: DEVS:Keymaps
Assign >NIL: LOCALE: SYS:Locale
Assign >NIL: LIBS: SYS:Classes ADD
Assign >NIL: HELP: LOCALE:Help DEFER
BindDrivers
C:Mount >NIL: DEVS:DOSDrivers/~(#?.info)
C:LoadMonDrvs
;SYS:Utilities/Expansion/ShowAmiga96/Bin/ShowAmiga96_Rev239C18 ;shows the picture during startup
SetEnv Language "english"
SetEnv Workbench $Workbench
SetEnv Kickstart $Kickstart
UnSet Workbench
UnSet Kickstart
C:AddDataTypes REFRESH QUIET
;C:IconBeFast
;BEGIN TitleShadow
Run <>NIL: SYS:C/TitleShadow
;END TitleShadow
Run > NIL: "Workbench:Utilities/Expansion/VisualPrefs/VisualPrefs"
;Run >NIL: SYS:Utilities/Expansion/VisualPrefs/TRAP ALL COMPLETE ;enables the customization of Amiga ReAction GUI
C:IPrefs
SYS:Utilities/Expansion/FullPalette/FPPrefs ;applies FullPalette settings
C:ConClip
Run >NIL: SYS:Utilities/Expansion/Birdie/Birdie ?
Path >NIL: RAM: C: SYS:Utilities SYS:Rexxc SYS:System S: SYS:Prefs SYS:WBStartup SYS:Tools SYS:Tools/Commodities
SYS:System/REXXMast >NIL:
IF EXISTS S:User-Startup
Execute S:User-Startup
EndIF
Resident Execute REMOVE
Resident Assign REMOVE
Run >NIL: PowerIcons NOGHOSTSELECT GHOST=50 SELR=80 SELB=80 SCROLLSPEEDUP TEXTMODE=1 BETTEROUTLINE
StackAttack AUTO
C:LoadWB
;C:LoadDB
EndCLI >NIL:
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thanks ill check this against my own s-s
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still no go im afraid it hangs as soon as it runs afa_os_loader
:(
here is my own s-s
(i've tried with and without my blizkick line same result)
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C:ATA3.driver RESIDENT QUIET
C:stack 8192
; $VER: Startup-Sequence_HardDrive 40.2 (25.2.93)
; Startup-Sequence for hard drive systems
c:LoadModule libs:icon.library libs:workbench.library REVERSE NOREBOOT
BlizKick DEVS:Kick3.9 EXTRESBUF=150000 HOGWAITBLIT SPEEDROM MODULE NoClick Romfixes MoveVBR RebootFix MuMove4k FixMath404 SpeedyIDE BBlank NewAlert RemCards BPPCFix QUIET
C:SetPatch NOROMUPDATE QUIET
CyReq ;one of most important patches in your OS!
C:Patchcontrol
C:Version >NIL:
C:AddBuffers >NIL: DF0: 15
FailAt 21
C:MakeDir RAM:T RAM:Clipboards RAM:ENV RAM:ENV/Sys
;C:Copy >NIL: ENVARC: RAM:ENV ALL NOREQ
L:env-handler ADDVOLNODE
Resident >NIL: C:Assign PURE
Resident >NIL: C:Execute PURE
Assign DH0: WDH0:
Assign DH1: WDH1:
Assign DH2: WDH2:
;Assign >NIL: ENV: RAM:ENV
Assign >NIL: T: RAM:T
Assign >NIL: CLIPS: RAM:Clipboards
Assign >NIL: REXX: S:
Assign >NIL: PRINTERS: DEVS:Printers
Assign >NIL: KEYMAPS: DEVS:Keymaps
Assign >NIL: LOCALE: SYS:Locale
Assign >NIL: LIBS: SYS:Classes ADD
Assign >NIL: HELP: LOCALE:Help DEFER
Assign >NIL: Downloads: WDH2:Downloads
BindDrivers
C:Mount >NIL: DEVS:DOSDrivers/~(#?.info)
C:LoadMonDrvs
SetEnv Language "english"
SetEnv Workbench $Workbench
SetEnv Kickstart $Kickstart
UnSet Workbench
UnSet Kickstart
C:AddDataTypes REFRESH QUIET
;Assign AFA_OS_LIBS: WDH0:Afa_OS_Libs
;C:AFA_OS_loader
C:IconBeFast
Assign THEMES: SYS:Prefs/Presets/Themes
Run > NIL: c:VisualPrefs
C:IPrefs
c:FPPrefs
C:ConClip
Path >NIL: RAM: C: SYS:Utilities SYS:Rexxc SYS:System S: SYS:Prefs SYS:WBStartup SYS:Tools SYS:Tools/Commodities
IF EXISTS S:User-Startup
Execute S:User-Startup
EndIF
Resident Execute REMOVE
Resident Assign REMOVE
Run >NIL: c:Birdie ? Run >NIL: PowerIcons NOGHOSTSELECT GHOST=50 SELR=80 SELG=80 SELB=80 SCROLLSPEEDUP TEXTMODE=2
C:LoadWB
EndCLI >NIL:
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if i run c:afa_os_loader after booting up my system slowly grinds to a halt (when i open a window no icons show up)
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I don't think it's wise to run both IconBeFast and AfA at the same time :-o
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oki, ill disable the iconbefast (ill check if the icon.library is also default ;) )
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using non iconbefast patched icon.library and without c:iconbefast running my system still halts when c:afa_os_loader is invoked :(
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The earlier versions would occasionally cause my AIAB system to lock up, so I experimented by deleting the AFA libraries (exec/datatypes/graphics etc. one by one) until the system became stable.
However, this has not been a problem for quite some time.
Perhaps the issue lies with your custom kickstart?
Cheers,
James
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well the weird thing is i also tried without the custom kickstart and blizkick same result :(
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got it partially running now, exec_lib.exe is whats killing my system the rest of the libs work ok
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Glad to hear you managed to get it working, however I would continue to experiment as you will lose some AfA functionality without all the libraries in place.
Cheers,
James
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Glad to hear you managed to get it working, however I would continue to experiment as you will lose some AfA functionality without all the libraries in place.
Actually, i would recommend to Craven1200 to remove picture_datatype.exe and ilbm_datatype.exe from afa_os_libs directory, because they are buggy and cause a number of problems. mainly slow-downs.
I need to mention that i haven't try the last 2 updates though, but judging from the changelog, the problem should be still present.
As for the exec_lib.exe, i never had any problem with it.
Btw, does anyone know what kind of extra things this library offers?
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AmigaMance, may I ask if you have reported your experiences to Bernd? This is surely the most efficient solution to correcting bugs. AfA OS has come on in leaps and bounds since the initial versions last year, however as you suggest, the last two updates do not appear to have resolved issues that are relevant to your situation. It does not hurt to try however!
I am curious as to what kind of slow-downs you are experiencing. I spent a little while testing the speed of opening images using multiview with and without the AfA OS datatype library and could not detect a (noticeable) performance loss. Note however, that I am using WinUAE so the speed of 68k functions is difficult to measure.
Cheers,
James
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If i'm not mistaken, yes, i have reported this issue to the author many months ago.
The slow-down is noticable when (for example) i open a MUI window which contains a backround pattern. Even if it is a small one.
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Ah, I recall reading something about that not so long ago.
Whether or not it has truly been fixed is another matter, however.
Cheers,
James
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