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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Marketplace => Topic started by: amigakit on December 11, 2006, 10:01:57 PM
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We are pleased to announce immediate availabilty of the new PowerPC-based motherboard, Efika 5K2. It is now in stock and available for immediate despatch.
Dont miss out at this low price:
http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=629
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Be sure to let us know when OS4 discs are available for installing on it. ;-)
Meanwhile, do you stock anything that would allow me to connect a slim IDE DVD drive (as found most laptops/slim external drive cases) so that I can cut a slot above the 3.5" drives on my A3000, insert the DVD drive and then connect it to my Buddha IDE controller? Cheers.
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On topic :-D
Does the Efika come with a power adapter? And does the AGP adapter come with it since it's mentioned as optional?
I might just being thick asking that second one as it says "with optional AGP Slot (90 degrees)" but might as well be sure :-)
i.e. is it ready to plug a hdd in and go on arrival, without a case of course.
thanks
Andy
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That is one tight little board! Great price! But seriously, (I'm not trying to be a wise guy here) why would I buy this to run Linux? And if I could buy MorphOS, why would I want that to run emulation for old Amiga apps (I suppose I would have to see the MorphOS GUI to be convinced)? Why, oh why, can't we buy AOS 4 (I know why ;-|)? Here's a couple questions; if MorphOS were ready today, could I run it on my Mac Mini? How would Aros run on this board? I was playing with Aros; does Aros have a file system? Should I buy one of these and wait to see what would run on it? :crazy:
Sorry, I don't know much about MorphOS... looks great though.
Oh I see. I have to be a PegasosPPC/ODW owner to download MorphOS. Dang. Or, be an Efika owner. So, when this new board supports MorphOS, then I can download legally? Just wondering.
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This board is supplied with AGP right angled adapter. It states 'optional' in the product text to refer to the fact that you can either use it or have the PCI slot free.
The actual motherboard is tiny - difficult to conceptualise until it is in your hand- certainly a feat of engineering.
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amigakit wrote:
This board is supplied with AGP right angled adapter. It states 'optional' in the product text to refer to the fact that you can either use it or have the PCI slot free.
The actual motherboard is tiny - difficult to conceptualise until it is in your hand- certainly a feat of engineering.
@AmigaKit
That is a very tiny board! I can tell by the slot. What would you recommend as the best OS and apps use for this board?
Cool!
(http://www.yadamnfool.com/pics/amiga/board1.jpg)
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It states that other memory configurations are available. If I wanted the board with 512MB, would it come with that amount soldered on -- and at what cost? I'm assuming you can't add memory later, so you need to get what you're going to get with this board.
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amigakit wrote:
This board is supplied with AGP right angled adapter. It states 'optional' in the product text to refer to the fact that you can either use it or have the PCI slot free.
The actual motherboard is tiny - difficult to conceptualise until it is in your hand- certainly a feat of engineering.
Still slightly bigger than one of these:
http://www.mini-itx.com/reviews/nano-itx/default.asp?page=1
But admittedly, more interesting/exotic.
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amigakit wrote:
Dont miss out at this low price:
http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=629
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Sheesh! Did the price just jump by $100.00!
I just asked AmigaKit about buying one at the advertised price then the price suddenly jumped to $225.00! What gives?
:-?
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$ != £
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Piru wrote:
$ != £
Was advertised in $ thru the US store.
'er, I must have seen it in £ the first time.... :-(
With the $ tumbling by the hour, it will probably cost $500 by tomorrow! Grrrr.
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Now given the outstanding design of this little toy I hate to complain about processor specs... But I am having a little difficulty fathoming the reason behind using a 603e core, rather than a 604e.
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@Dr_Righteous
But I am having a little difficulty fathoming the reason behind using a 603e core, rather than a 604e.
I guess you need to ask Freescale. My guess is that no 604 core could be get to run at 1W. Also, something higher spec would run hotter (possibly requiring heatsink + fan) and be more expensive. Finally, I think 603 was the "base design" which many other processor lines forked from, while 604 was more of a dead end.
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I want one! I`ll buy one!
Once there is an interesting OS (ie Morph OS) out for it. How much do I have to wait? :D
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amigakit wrote:
This board is supplied with AGP right angled adapter. It states 'optional' in the product text to refer to the fact that you can either use it or have the PCI slot free.
The actual motherboard is tiny - difficult to conceptualise until it is in your hand- certainly a feat of engineering.
Ah good because i have spare nVidia and ATi AGP gfx cards lying around :-D
I think i might have a suitable case for it and all the other gubbins (HDD etc).
Does it come with the power supply/adapter?
Andy
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Does it come with the power supply/adapter?
No. It has a regular ATX power connector. PicoPSU (http://www.mini-box.com/picoPSU-60-WI?sc=8&category=13) is cool, although a bit pricey solution.
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Please excuse my ignorance - but where/how do you connect a keyboard to this thing?
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Please excuse my ignorance - but where/how do you connect a keyboard to this thing?
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where/how do you connect a keyboard to this thing?
USB
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mbrantley wrote:
It states that other memory configurations are available. If I wanted the board with 512MB, would it come with that amount soldered on -- and at what cost? I'm assuming you can't add memory later, so you need to get what you're going to get with this board.
I was also hoping that this may be answered because it is pretty much the difference between me buying one and not.
I was under the impression the 128mb wasn't upgradable, if it is would it be done by an unorthodox method and will it cost a lot extra?
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Piru wrote:
No. It has a regular ATX power connector. PicoPSU (http://www.mini-box.com/picoPSU-60-WI?sc=8&category=13) is cool, although a bit pricey solution.
Thanks Piru that all looks pretty cool, otherwise i've got a spare 550watt one lying around, although... that might be a little excessive :-D
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Piru wrote:
I guess you need to ask Freescale. My guess is that no 604 core could be get to run at 1W. Also, something higher spec would run hotter (possibly requiring heatsink + fan) and be more expensive. Finally, I think 603 was the "base design" which many other processor lines forked from, while 604 was more of a dead end.
Yeah, given it's meant as an embeded device, I can see how you'd want it to run without additional cooling. Guess people don't want DVRs or whatever with cooling fans :lol:
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Any news on what type of Amiga license the EFIKA will have? BBRV mentioned in a recent post that they have a license with Amiga Inc. for the EFIK but he didn't allude to the type.... AmigaDE, AmigaOS4...He also didn't give any time line on when this OS would be ported and running.
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Hi AmigaKit,
I went through the add to basket process but didnt see anyway of choosing the "optional" memory amounts.
So how do I go about getting the 512mb version?
Andy
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it isn't AmigaKit fault, not answer at this question.
AFAIK if you want more RAM. you have to order a batch (at least).
why? (http://www.morphzone.org/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=4932&forum=2)...because 128 MB are enough (at least on MZ someone says so)
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Framiga wrote:
it isn't AmigaKit fault, not answer at this question.
AFAIK if you want more RAM. you have to order a batch (at least).
why? (http://www.morphzone.org/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=4932&forum=2)...because 128 MB are enough (at least on MZ someone says so)
The way I see it, is that the EFIKA is *not* a desktop computer, and was never designed to be so.
You may choose to use it as such, but don't complain when it doesn't do what desktop computers do (eg Let you add more RAM to it).
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Ah i see so it's not actually an option at the moment but it could have been at manufacture time.
@CannonFodder
You may choose to use it as such, but don't complain when it doesn't do what desktop computers do (eg Let you add more RAM to it).
I'm not interested in using it as a desktop machine but if a version was available with more ram then i'd have gone for that. For the small price it'd have cost it seems a bit of a shame not to have but a SO-DIMM slot on there or just gone with higher density ram chips. As it is the gfx cards i have lying around will have the same onboard ram as the main system.
Still it should make for a nice cheap low-power machine :-D
Andy
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SO-DIMM slot
There's no room for SO-DIMM slot (it requires enough clearance, which just isn't available).
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Looks like genesi are climbing the ladder. nice work to em.
I hope morphos goes well in efika.
although i really cant see any point to ditch my imac. Im in love with it. Core duo rox.
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I'm not ditching my pc, peg1 and peg2 for EFIKA either. That'd be quite silly. EFIKA doesn't replace desktop or laptop system. However, I bet I can find some use for <10 W computer...
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Hey, it's cheap, in mass production, and powerful enough to run OS4... If we all get behind it.
It's time.
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Piru wrote:
I'm not ditching my pc, peg1 and peg2 for EFIKA either. That'd be quite silly. EFIKA doesn't replace desktop or laptop system. However, I bet I can find some use for <10 W computer...
These boards are screaming for a simple 12V-in jack, instead of the ATX PSU connector.
Some of the DC->ATX power adapter kits cost as much as the Mobo.
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coldfish wrote:
Piru wrote:
I'm not ditching my pc, peg1 and peg2 for EFIKA either. That'd be quite silly. EFIKA doesn't replace desktop or laptop system. However, I bet I can find some use for <10 W computer...
These boards are screaming for a simple 12V-in jack, instead of the ATX PSU connector.
Some of the DC->ATX power adapter kits cost as much as the Mobo.
To get the +3.3/+5/+12/-5/-12 they would have to cram more stuff on the board. The stuff they would have to add to get those voltages from a 12v pulsed dc wallwart could add another 50 bucks to the price tag.
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I might be wrong about this but like 6 years ago I swear i had a riser board i pulled out of a machine that interfaced to a pci slot and provided 3 more slots. The board had no ic's on it, i think it only had some discrete components. I pulled it out of a wierd sony machine. The PC i had at the time had a limited ammount of pci slots, and if i remember correctly i used the riser board from that sony machine to give me an extra two pci slots on my pc, which i made use of even though they just hung there ( no case on that box ).
Anyway, the point i'm getting at is would it be possible to use such a device on the Efika to give me more pci slots? And would it be possible to say use such a board to give me two pci slots and use the third avaiable pci slot on the riser to interface with that pci->agp board and effictavly have two pci slots and an agp on the Efika?
From what ive seen on the Efika is a standard PCI slot with an optional pcb that plugs in there and gives an agp port. THat pcb, how does it work? I have not seen this on other hardware. PCI and AGP both have 32 bit bus, but agp uses lower voltages on it's signal pins.
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Some of the DC->ATX power adapter kits cost as much as the Mobo.
PicoPSU is roughly 1/4 of the mobo price.
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@koaftder,
I asked this on another forum and they said that The PCI controller, inside the CPU, can only handle one device.
Anyway, the point i'm getting at is would it be possible to use such a device on the Efika to give me more pci slots? And would it be possible to say use such a board to give me two pci slots and use the third avaiable pci slot on the riser to interface with that pci->agp board and effictavly have two pci slots and an agp on the Efika?
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spihunter wrote:
@koaftder,
I asked this on another forum and they said that The PCI controller, inside the CPU, can only handle one device.
Anyway, the point i'm getting at is would it be possible to use such a device on the Efika to give me more pci slots? And would it be possible to say use such a board to give me two pci slots and use the third avaiable pci slot on the riser to interface with that pci->agp board and effictavly have two pci slots and an agp on the Efika?
I don't beleive it. To only handle one PCI device on that bus would be a software limitation. I just don't know how they do the AGP thing on it. ( I don't know much on AGP )