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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Marketplace => Topic started by: Leifern on December 05, 2006, 10:59:48 PM
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Hi,
I got ripped by this guy on Amibench. He sold me a PPC accelerator that he never sent.. He even told me he didn't send it.. He said he had sold it to some other guy, and that he was going to give me my money back.. A week later he said he had spent the money, and that he would have to pay me a little every month.. Four months later i haven't seen any money. I reported to the cops, but they said they wern't likely to get anything done.
Here is a little information that might come in handy when trying to avoid this guy:
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Names:
Henrique António Barradas Mota Pereira
Luis Periera
Tiago Silva
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Bank:
Bank Name: Montepio Geral
Bank Location: Portugal,Lisboa
Bank Account Registered to Henrique António Barradas Mota Pereira
Bank Account Nº 1378-0
IBAN: PT50 0036 0155 9910 0013 7801 4
BIC: MPIOPTPL
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Adresse:
Country: Portugal
Location: Torres Vedras 2560-668
Address: Rua dos Cavaleiros da Espora Dourada Nº9 1ºEsq.
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I dont know if any of this helps, or if i've broken some rules, but i really think this guy deserves to be recognised as the piece of {bleep} that he is! :pissed: I also think he might be hanging around the amiga forums. Saw that he had replied to a post about his fraud on another board (cannot remember which).
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Ouch, sorry to hear :-(
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That extremely sucks.
The thing you have to watch out for is where the card is being sold from. Chances for a PPC from portugal is a joke. They are scammers and have no life. :-)
Not stereotyping, but just stating the obvious that people with strange names and of course their location.
Hmmm.... Not much can happen since they are from a different place far away.
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That bleep strikes again! Sorry to hear your one of his latest victims. :-(
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Thats some sucking news, dude. I have some Italian friends in the "construction" business in New Jersey who owe me a favor. Want me to ask them for advice on extricating your money from this dreg? 8-)
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stopthegop wrote:
Thats some sucking news, dude. I have some Italian friends in the "construction" business in New Jersey who owe me a favor. Want me to ask them for advice on extricating your money from this dreg? 8-)
Are your friends called Mario and Luigi? :-D
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@ Leifern
Can you please tell us any user names this guy might be using on the Amiga forums, so we don't trade with him.
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I'm not sure if he is a member here but his user name is"LUISTHE" (http://amigaworld.net/userinfo.php?uid=930) over on AW.
Here is a few AW threads about this individual-
link 1 (http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=21308&forum=2#340599)
link 2 (http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=16018&forum=1)
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But according to those threads, LuisTHE is not the same Luis that is scamming people.
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kd7ota wrote:
That extremely sucks.
The thing you have to watch out for is where the card is being sold from. Chances for a PPC from portugal is a joke. They are scammers and have no life. :-)
Not stereotyping, but just stating the obvious that people with strange names and of course their location.
Hmmm.... Not much can happen since they are from a different place far away.
I can't believe I'm reading this - are you saying that the Portuguese are, by nature, scammers?!?! :-(
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This is the exact same excuse he used for me.
That guy needs to be caught and have his hands cut off!
AmiBoy
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Sorry to hear. Been ripped off myself for about 2000 EURs a couple of years back (but not in the Amiga context). Feels bad, but still I try to trust ppl.
It's always strange that the police is a) not too interested (or to put it better, they are *interested* but just have not the resorces to care about) in such 'minor' things and b) that it still becomes terribly difficult whenever more than one country is involved.
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Leifern,
Sorry to read about your sad story... ;-( I had a few people try to do that too me
on Ebay..when I sold a few "Souped-up/chipped" Sony PS2(slim models)..
Ebay didnt know they were souped up..but u knew when u read the description.
I didnt fall for scams..Wanting me to send them the PS2..and telling me they need it right away..and that they would pay as soon as they had confirmation that the package was sent..mmmmm...all from Nigeria....
Again Sorry to read about your loss..
Will def. stay away from HIM..
Peace
Rich
from NY
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Actually, i do believe LuisTHE to be the same guy. I looked into it, and i was told he had used Luis Periera as an alias aswell.. And i know that LuisTHE ripped of/tried to rip of a few people on th AW board.
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kd7ota wrote:
That extremely sucks.
The thing you have to watch out for is where the card is being sold from. Chances for a PPC from portugal is a joke. They are scammers and have no life. :-)
Not stereotyping, but just stating the obvious that people with strange names and of course their location.
So by your post, yo say that ppl in portugal are scammers and that portugal is not a kindly place to get a PPC? Portugal still have amigans, didnt know?
Portugal is not a 3rd world nation ( where the chances of having an computer are a joke because getting something to eat goes first ) occupied by scammers.
In EVERYWHERE are black spots between white one, not only portugal.
Portugal is a country conforming the E.U. as well as, Poland, Germany, France or Spain.
I think you have to offer your excuses to our portugal folks.
PS: I have nothing to do with Portugal, but i have been a little offended with that statement.
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kd7ota wrote:
That extremely sucks.
The thing you have to watch out for is where the card is being sold from. Chances for a PPC from portugal is a joke. They are scammers and have no life. :-)
Not stereotyping, but just stating the obvious that people with strange names and of course their location.
Hmmm.... Not much can happen since they are from a different place far away.
Why do you say something like that? I am sure Amiga was just as popular in Portugal as in rest of Europe. I also highly doubt that there are more scammers there. You come of sounding like a racist or a person who know absolutely nothing about this country.
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yeah, i mean like, don't you know that portugal is totally like full of ports and gals? it's like i don't know you could be all "i need both chicks and moorings" and then go to portugal and get both.
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weirdami:
LOLOLOL!!!!!
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@everyone
Sorry about the post. I just got on here again and did see some didnt like the post. I didnt mean to state that officially everyone from Portugal is a scammer. Didnt mean to sound it out that way. Just how he got scammed, something was up with the name from start and there just had to be some way to authenticate he had the card or not, like as him to email some pictures of the card with specific objects in them to very they are...
But even then its tuff that he could easily be doing that then score off the money...
Its just too hard these days to trust. Sorry, but maybe I was thinking Nigerian scammers trying to get away with things like this or ripping people off.
Either way, scammers are from every country. I will stick with that k. Sorry for the offending post. I woke up when I read this thread originally. :-)
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Yeah.. He did send me pictures, and they looked okay.. But the first time he said he had transferred money to my account, i asked if he could E-Mail me the reciept.. Then he said: "Do you want the reciept, or the rest of the money..? Just asking!!!" What a piece of {bleep}..!! Hehe... Sorry!
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Hey guys,
I was contacted by this guy Tiago Silva too and his msn id is inarmedrobbery@hotmail.com..and after reading all this post about the cheat...i think that email id suits him best...he and i used to chat and he was trying to sell me his BLizzard PPC 060 and i asked him waht is the garuntee that i get the product after i make the payment..well he didnt answer that question.....
Sorry that you ran into him too...
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What I find most extraordinary, is he's able to do the same scam again and again!
The common denominator here seems to be Amibench, so why can't there be like a hall of shame there to warn us about these repeat offenders.
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actually amibench has a rating system...
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Damn! Giving us Portuguese a bad name. I have a cousin living near Lisbon (Lisboa)... but I don't think we could pay her to give him a not so friendly visit...
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This post has me feeling bad.... I sent a guy in the UK a package three weeks ago and it has still not showed up yet. The same day I sent threee packages to the US: I used the same surface option.
Well, apparently surface to the UK means by boat. I remember those posts complaining about a guy in the US taking up to 2 months to send a package.
What is the longest anyone in the UK has taken to received something shipped from North America? I'd appreciate your comments.
thx,
S
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I am gonna create a bogus email account and see if I can mess with this guy and ask him if he has a PPC for sale or not lol. I will post up his emails and see if the same crap happens again. :-)
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Previous thread (http://www.amiga.org/forums/showthread.php?t=22578) regarding this tool.
Sorry to hear you got ripped off by the well known portuguese Juan Kerr.
EDIT: Oooops - just realised this was the thread I was discussing this with Leifern months ago. Was thinking it was the OP who got ripped off.
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What is the longest anyone in the UK has taken to received something shipped from North America? I'd appreciate your comments.
thx,
S
It took me 2 months to recieve a package FROM the UK to Canada a few years ago. Got held up at customs. The package had no return address on it so the sender had to contact the post office. Contact whoever you used to send it...
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sdyates wrote:
This post has me feeling bad.... I sent a guy in the UK a package three weeks ago and it has still not showed up yet. The same day I sent threee packages to the US: I used the same surface option.
Well, apparently surface to the UK means by boat. I remember those posts complaining about a guy in the US taking up to 2 months to send a package.
What is the longest anyone in the UK has taken to received something shipped from North America? I'd appreciate your comments.
thx,
S
8 weeks for me. It was a McIntosh 2505 amplifier with a blown transformer that I sent "surface" to Northern Italy. He, of course, requested surface shipping. 6 weeks later he impugns me with highly neg. fb. Two weeks after that he got his broken amp. :)
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What is the longest anyone in the UK has taken to received something shipped from North America?
The cheapest method for US post office from US to UK/Europe is 4-6 weeks. They call it Economy Parcel Post. It goes on a ship. I always ask people to let me know when it gets to them because it takes so long and I always make sure they know how long it's supposed to take. Gets worrisome when you have to wait that long for an A1000 to get to your buyer!
Turns out it's also 4-6 weeks to Australia. Go figure.
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@kd7ota
Ask him if he'll let you pick it up personally.
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@weirdami
He hasn't written me yet, but I can definately ask that if he responds back. :-D
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kd7ota wrote:
I am gonna create a bogus email account and see if I can mess with this guy and ask him if he has a PPC for sale or not lol. I will post up his emails and see if the same crap happens again. :-)
What if he's reading this thread? ;-)
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true...but worth a shot anyways. :-D
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Yeah.. Try it.. Would be fun to read his reaction.. He's probably out of town.. Working.. In Australia.. Yeah! Or Canada! Hehe..
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Well he could be watching this thread so of what use is to send him a bogus mail if you're telling him so beforehand.
I'm from Portugal but I'm in a place 300Km away from Lisbon (Algarve) so I can't be of any help. Even if I was close don't think contacting/paying a visit to him would be of any use.
There's free center to solve "consumer conflicts" (or whatever it's called in english) at www.centroarbitragemlisboa.pt whose rullings are as valid as a court's but I don't think this case would qualify as it works only with stuff bought from companies. But you could send them an email and ask for advice anyway. Don't hold your breath though.
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" Yeah.. Try it.. Would be fun to read his reaction.. He's probably out of town.. Working.. In Australia.. Yeah! Or Canada! Hehe.."
If you mean someone from another country pretending to be from here I think he must be from Portugal given his account data, otherwise he wouldn't be able to receive the money with a bogus bank account.
The most f*cked up thing (really) is that bank account data and proof of goods shipment should be able to secure oneself but they aren't. I got scamed twice with PPC cards, one from germany (the famouns bernd bind or whatever case) and another one from Greece. The bank account data is worth sh*t. If you want anything done you have to pay a lawyer. :madashell: It's probably a diferent case with consumer goods bought from a shop in most EU countries in wich case you can get the case solved free of charge using a center like the one I mentioned above, but there should be a way to solve stuff sold privately too.
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@Leifern
Check PM...
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Well he could be watching this thread so of what use is to send him a bogus mail if you're telling him so beforehand
It doesn't matter. He's trying to get people to send him money. If you don't send it, how many others did? One person playing a trick won't stop those other people from being scammed. What needs to happen is a knife to the eye.
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More like 4-5 months from USA to Australia.
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X-ray wrote:
But according to those threads, LuisTHE is not the same Luis that is scamming people.
He's lying
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But then why hasn't there been a lot of outrage there? Those threads just fizzled away and nobody challenged LuisTHE at all.
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If that had been here, he would have been lynched by now :ak47:
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Hallo, the same guy have ripped me, too. I bought a Blizzard 1260 from him.
But the card have never arrived. It´s over 1 and a half year ago.
In spring i had contact again with him. Because he solds a Blizzard PPC from Amibench.
He told me much stories, the card was comming back to him and now he have no money to send it again......
Than he told me, he haven´t the card yet, he will send me two Blizzard 1230. But i would my money back.
But he told me he have no money.
Than i would take the 2 Blizzard 1230, but he have no money to send.....
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Just to point out that Luis Periera, the Portuguese guy who ripped off several people with bogus ads for Blizzard PPCs and 060s (Hi LuisTHE :-) ), used the pseudonym "Tiago Silva (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiago_Silva)" in some of his dealings, the name of a former member of the Brazilian Soccer team.
There is currently an ad on Amibench for a Blizzard PPC from a Portuguese guy by the name of "Nuno Mendes (http://www.soccerbase.com/players_details.sd?playerid=41570)", which happens to be the name of a Portuguese defender.
These could both be common Portuguese names, and hence this coincidence could be nothing more than chance, however I find this coincidence a little strange. Could be perfectly legit, but if anyone IS pursuing this item, I would recommend researching the threads on Luis Pereira (or Periera) both here and on AW.net, and checking out the various aliases used, the e-mail addresses and postal addresses etc, and being very careful.
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It says in the ad that there is a "slight" problem with the Bvision card but he doesn't elaborate about what the "slight" problem might be.
Maybe the "problem" is that it... doesn't exist??
btw, I know of very few people (actually only one) who always end whatever they're writing exactly the same way; like this:
bye,
xxxxx
Ring any bells? Hint: starts with "L"
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I also have 18 pcs of Blizzard PPCs and 080s for sale ... I want ehmmm... like
200$ each ... No $ are worthless... 200€ each... It's real... Send money to me
at.:
Scamos Fraudos
Locomania Street 6
2346A Lissabon
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No seriously... Sad that there are so many fakes around. Is there are list on Amiga.org where you can warn others ? Are list of names ? Cos then I would like to add Norbetec from German eBay. He takes pictures of newlike Amigas and Monitors and sends old useless stuff... Even not the models from the Pic's.