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Title: Amiga.org seems very slow at times?
Post by: tonyvdb on December 05, 2006, 07:35:07 PM
Has anyone noticed that the site seems slow at times? For the past few days it takes up to a minute to update or post a tread in the forums. Its as if it stalls.
Title: Re: Amiga.org seems very slow at times?
Post by: Akiko on December 05, 2006, 07:38:42 PM
I have a fast connection but yes definitely alot slower than usual.
Title: Re: Amiga.org seems very slow at times?
Post by: AmiKit on December 05, 2006, 07:38:47 PM
yes, the same here...  :-(
Title: Re: Amiga.org seems very slow at times?
Post by: on December 05, 2006, 07:42:30 PM
something to do with the average 90+ users at a time online I would think.  Will check with the web host.

Wayne
Title: Re: Amiga.org seems very slow at times?
Post by: redrumloa on December 05, 2006, 07:43:02 PM
Take a look at the Who's Online. We were peaking at about 130 or so users online earlier today. AO's user count is climbing fast lately, putting a strain on the server.
Title: Re: Amiga.org seems very slow at times?
Post by: Tomas on December 05, 2006, 07:44:19 PM
It has been very slow for me as well.
Title: Re: Amiga.org seems very slow at times?
Post by: on December 05, 2006, 07:47:39 PM
something to do with the average 90+ users at a time online I would think.  Will check with the web host.

Wayne
Title: Re: Amiga.org seems very slow at times?
Post by: tonyvdb on December 05, 2006, 07:50:27 PM
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Wayne wrote:
something to do with the average 90+ users at a time online I would think.  Will check with the web host.

Wayne


Thanks Wayne, Just thought maybe there is something wrong.
Title: Re: Amiga.org seems very slow at times?
Post by: Linchpin on December 05, 2006, 07:53:16 PM
Current Server Load :

Members: 22
Guests: 66

Running not too bad @ 19:52 GMT (UK Time)
Title: Re: Amiga.org seems very slow at times?
Post by: on December 06, 2006, 03:14:15 AM
I sent this to our Web host and at this point, after really stretching their courtesy for about 3 years, we may be a point where the only resolution is to move back to a dedicated server.  

Right now, there is only one other site on the server we're on.  Between them and us, occassionally the load simply gets too high for the site to be usable.  Probably a cron job gone bad somewhere.

The only way to fix it is to be the only site on the server, but that's called a dedicated server and the trouble is, the costs for going dedicated are pretty much impossible for us to cover considering we would need cpanel or somesuch to be able to manage the sites themselves (or pay extra for a managed server).

I know several of you have servers and such that you'd probably volunteer, and I truly appreciate it but the reason we've stayed with our current host all these years is the sheer high level of support they offer.

Otherwise, we're still looking for solutions.

Wayne
Title: Re: Amiga.org seems very slow at times?
Post by: Matt_H on December 06, 2006, 03:32:57 AM
The "Feed the Kitty" donations couldn't cover it? I noticed that the monthly goal has been $40 ever since it was first implemented and it's never failed to have been met. Maybe it's time to slowly inch it up to $50? Higher?
Title: Re: Amiga.org seems very slow at times?
Post by: on December 06, 2006, 04:19:12 AM
I don't know yet.  Earlier prices I'd gotten were roughly $150 per month for a dedicated server with cpanel.
Title: Re: Amiga.org seems very slow at times?
Post by: Chain on December 06, 2006, 06:33:15 AM
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Wayne wrote:
I don't know yet.  Earlier prices I'd gotten were roughly $150 per month for a dedicated server with cpanel.


YUCK!  :cry:
Title: Re: Amiga.org seems very slow at times?
Post by: da9000 on January 15, 2007, 02:28:54 PM
Saw this topic and I know it's old but I just wanted to say: search is the most slow from using the site in general.

Search is also desperately in need of upgrade (having the ability to search different forums, subject lines only or all text, etc)

Oh, also images take a while (hours) to show up.

Unrelated to speed but the "image manager" in the post editor doesn't work properly (the size of the box, and the buttons are either too small or draw funny, so you can't use them) in latest Opera, Safari and Firefox for OSX 10.4.8 (Tiger)
Title: Re: Amiga.org seems very slow at times?
Post by: odin on January 15, 2007, 02:39:45 PM
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da9000 wrote:

Oh, also images take a while (hours) to show up.

I think that's due to the moderators manually approving of pics.
Title: Re: Amiga.org seems very slow at times?
Post by: Colani1200 on January 15, 2007, 02:41:43 PM
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Wayne wrote:
I don't know yet.  Earlier prices I'd gotten were roughly $150 per month for a dedicated server with cpanel.

 :-o That sounds pretty expensive. Can't imagine US hosters are more expensive than the german ones. (http://www.strato.de/server/highend/index.html)
Title: Re: Amiga.org seems very slow at times?
Post by: on January 15, 2007, 02:59:00 PM
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Colani1200 wrote:
 :-o That sounds pretty expensive. Can't imagine US hosters are more expensive than the german ones. (http://www.strato.de/server/highend/index.html)

Since the USD is less now than the euro, they're about the same.

Doesn't matter anyway, because unless the Amiga computer and it's community makes a miraculous rebound, there simply isn't enough income available, nor interest abound, to support a $150 per month dedicated server at this time.

re: search being slow.

That's because there's about 7 years of data built up on the site.  I could really speed things up by deleting years of old posts, but that idea has always been met with resistance.

Wayne
Title: Re: Amiga.org seems very slow at times?
Post by: on January 15, 2007, 03:01:44 PM
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da9000 wrote:
Saw this topic and I know it's old but I just wanted to say: search is the most slow from using the site in general.

Years, and years, and years of data tend to do that.

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Oh, also images take a while (hours) to show up.
Submitted images must be manually approved due to abuse in the past.  

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Unrelated to speed but the "image manager" in the post editor doesn't work properly
The "Image manager" is a completely unused portion of the site in general.  I'd remove access to it if I could, but it's tied to a few things that would break without it.

Wayne
Title: Re: Amiga.org seems very slow at times?
Post by: TheMud on January 15, 2007, 03:30:22 PM
I think its fast enough :D
Title: Re: Amiga.org seems very slow at times?
Post by: whabang on January 15, 2007, 05:34:44 PM
What exactly is causing the slow-downs? Is it database-crunching, or is it a sheer bandwidth-thingie?

If it's because of bandwidth issues, wouldn't it be possible to have a low BW-version of the forum?
Title: Re: Amiga.org seems very slow at times?
Post by: on January 15, 2007, 06:15:59 PM
It's having a roughly 300 megabyte database dating back 5 years or so.

Title: Re: Amiga.org seems very slow at times?
Post by: whabang on January 16, 2007, 04:14:30 PM
Ahh! That explains it. Well, nothing to do about it, then. At least not until we start to remove older posts. Is it possible to store the old posts as static pages instead? That would reduce some of the load of the server, without actually removing anything.
Title: Re: Amiga.org seems very slow at times?
Post by: Tomas on January 16, 2007, 04:30:25 PM
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Wayne wrote:
It's having a roughly 300 megabyte database dating back 5 years or so.


Is it not possible to make a seperate archive with no post access, so that you can free up some resources on the active forum.
Title: Re: Amiga.org seems very slow at times?
Post by: on January 16, 2007, 05:03:22 PM
@Tomas,

no.
Title: Re: Amiga.org seems very slow at times?
Post by: on January 16, 2007, 05:04:08 PM
@whabang,

not that I am aware of.

Wayne