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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Marketplace => Topic started by: stopthegop on December 04, 2006, 12:24:54 PM
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http://cgi.ebay.com/Cyberstorm-PPC-Mk3-68060-50MHz-PPC-604e-233MHz_W0QQitemZ300056710943QQihZ020QQcategoryZ4598QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item300056710943
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KEROPI! Here's your chance dude! :laughing:
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I saw it the minute it was listed!
I thought for a while since it is obviously UNTESTED, and decided to grab it after 5mins... but I cannot since it is only restricted to US residents.
cheers McVenco ! :lol:
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Where does it say its restricted to US residents? The seller doesn't explicitly say he will ship internationally, but he doesn't say he won't, either.
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Precisely! Just send him an E-mail, convincing him to ship abroad because you want to BIN, and you will pay for the shipping. I don't see why he won't be doing that.
Other option: ask a fellow A.org member who lives in the USA to buy it and ship it to you :-D
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Its like the old saying, "Its always easier to beg forgiveness than to beg permission."
In other words, just buy the thing and then play innocent if he gives you a hard time about shipping overseas. :roll:
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tried it,
This seller has set buyer requirements for this item and only sells to buyers who meet those requirements.
You are unable to bid on or buy this item because:
You are registered in a country to which the seller doesn't ship.
Note: If you are still interested in bidding on or buying this item, you may contact the seller and ask that they exempt you from any buyer requirements.
tough luck, I know what I am talking about.
anyone want to get it for me? and I will pay the auction
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Blast it. Apparently my eBay search notification has expired for "amiga ppc". Someone got it, though.
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ohhhh yeah, someone grabbed it
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it went to a guy with zero feedback. I fancy the seller will have some serious heart attacks following weeks :)
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countzero wrote:
it went to a guy with zero feedback. I fancy the seller will have some serious heart attacks following weeks :)
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What's wrong with zero feedback? I've bought/sold dozens of things from/to private persons on lots of sites all over the Internet, but never on Ebay. Does that make me a bad buyer if I buy just one thing on Ebay ever? I rather despise that top seller arrogance: "I've sold and bought hundreds of things on Ebay, and you haven't sold/bought anything before, so you are not trustworthy.."
Bah..
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all have to start from somewhere...
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That's my auction. Untested? "This was removed working, but is sold AS-IS as I have no control over how you install it."
It -is- tested. Quite thoroughly.
As for the BIN, someone by the handle "misteramiga" did that and say's he's from NY, and is buying it for Keropi. Keropi says it's someone he met on Amiga.org, but the guy in NY say's they are cousins.
As for the suggestion to ask for forgiveness rather than permission, that advice has caused loads of problems. eBay frowns on me mailing the item to an address other than that registered with the buyer account, while BidPay will not offer protection to me if I send to anything other than the payer's registered address. I'm not even sure BidPay will -let- someone who isn't the auction winner pay for it.
And all this went down while I was in the middle of changing the auction to allow international bidders. So if Keropi had been slightly more patient (and waited more than 8 hours for a reply, I was up at about 6:30am changing the auction when the other guy did a BIN on Keropi's behalf) then he could have done a BIN himself and things would be much simpler.
Now I'm between a rock and a hard place. And I'm left wondering who this 0 feedback new guy really is. Meanwhile I'm out the eBay fees on a $600 sale, Keropi has no worries of negative feedback or deadbeat bidder reports.
I have to say, this is one of the reasons I had set it to US bidders only. There always seems to be some misunderstanding, delay in customs, things I can't control but the buyer freaks out about and blames me for until they get the box and see I shipped it exactly when I said I did.
What I think is the only way this can proceed: Misteramiga in NY fixes his eBay registered mailing address. Keropi gets the money to Misteramiga, somehow. Misteramiga pays me, I ship to Misteramiga, misteramiga ships to Keropi.
This would have been so much simpler if Keropi had asked PERMISSION rather than FORGIVENESS with fake innocence.
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pardon me, but the REAL worry here seems you are afraid I am a scammer???
So, ANYONE here, that I have bought or sold items to, come one and say if anything was wrong or I screwed you!
Right now I am one step from the final confirmation to send the money via BidPay, but I won't risk this chance to get the csppc I wanted, so I and stopthegop will do what it takes...
I don't want to argue, I just need this piece of hardware badly, as you all know.... :-D :-D :-D
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Some things become more clear... so stopthegop is misteramiga on eBay?
Don't you think this would look strange to you if the situation were reversed? I've not hung out on Amiga.org in so long that I had to register again. You guys are playing it a bit sneaky, aren't you? Why -wouldn't- that make me nervous?
As I said to you in a private email, if BidPay will let you pay for the auction, then I'll ship to the mailing address you registered with BidPay.
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Polymorph wrote:
Some things become more clear... so stopthegop is misteramiga on eBay?
Don't you think this would look strange to you if the situation were reversed? I've not hung out on Amiga.org in so long that I had to register again. You guys are playing it a bit sneaky, aren't you? Why -wouldn't- that make me nervous?
As I said to you in a private email, if BidPay will let you pay for the auction, then I'll ship to the mailing address you registered with BidPay.
There's nothing fishy going on here, I can guarentee it.
I know how badly Keropi needs this card since his last card died.
Have alot bought stuff from Keropi privately, the least you can say about him is that you can trusy him ;-)
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McVenco wrote:
countzero wrote:
it went to a guy with zero feedback. I fancy the seller will have some serious heart attacks following weeks :)
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What's wrong with zero feedback? I've bought/sold dozens of things from/to private persons on lots of sites all over the Internet, but never on Ebay. Does that make me a bad buyer if I buy just one thing on Ebay ever? I rather despise that top seller arrogance: "I've sold and bought hundreds of things on Ebay, and you haven't sold/bought anything before, so you are not trustworthy.."
Bah..
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Zerofeedback always has the possibility of a scammer coming back for more. Especially if you're buying an item > $500 as your first buy, it'll make me really nervous if I were the seller.
ahahaha so it was keropi buying it with a US account :) what can I say, I'm deadly jealous of the guy since he buys everything I want to buy and he's never short of money :) He also got the goldengate 486 (http://eab.abime.net/showthread.php?t=26904) ! (Also he's Greek and I'm Turkish so that's another reason to badmouth him :)) But no, though I've never dealt with the guy I know for sure that he won't be ripping you off, I've never seen someone complaining after dealing with him since I've started visiting these boards (you can also check his real ebay user feedback (http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=inzanerm&iid=160059966159)). Feel safe to deal with him, though I'ld rather you sell the board to me for half the auction price for goodness sake :)
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Polymorph
I can personally vouch since I bought Keropi's blizzardPPC when he sold it here earlier this year. He's is a well respected member of this site and I wouldn't hesitate for a second doing business with him again.
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Hey Polymorph, welcome back.
Long years no chat. I still have one of your Amiga coffe mugs sent along with one of our transactions years ago. :-) Don't ask what we bartered for, can't recall. Probably some hardware related to audio or video.
As a long time ebayer/paypaler, I have to agree with your shipping cautions. To qualify for fraud protections, you must ship with signed confirmation the the verified address at paypal or bidpay. To ship to a different address other than the confirmed one is inviting trouble.
So are you returning to amiga.org for a stay or just for inventory liquidation?
Plaz
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@McVenco
What's wrong with zero feedback?
It depends. I was once scammed looong ago by some one with zero feedback. Lost $75US (I've since learned precautions) On the other hand I've sold $800 worth of equiptment recently to two other people with zero feedback with out incident. Don't take it personally. The seller is just naturally going to take some precautious when you don't have a rating with all the ebay horror stories that exist.
It's not to say you can't get burned by some one with a 200+ rating, but the risk seems much lower in that case.
Plaz
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@Polymorph
keropi is a honest guy (and serious amiga user), known both here in amiga.org and to our Greek community. I seriously doubt he'll give you any trouble, I'm sure this transaction will work out great between you.
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Polymorph
keropi is a standup guy. I've bought stuff from him without any problems at all. He's that nice he even upgraded the shipping from standard to express so I would receive the equipment sooner. I didn't ask, he just did it because he could/is like that.
Yeah, there were some crossed wires, but we Amigans are an impatient and passionate bunch. And these cards are highly desirable...
You will have a smooth transaction.
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I sold a scandoubler to keropi just now, and he paid the same day, so I don't think you have anything to worry about.
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Thank you all for your support and kind words, :-D I finally managed today to pay polymorph through bidpay...
though he is right to be cautious, it just doesn't feel right if you are honest, but that's the way it is...
as a sidenote, bidpay is not as convenient as paypal, nor it pays instantly...
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BidPay rejected it. As for you being honest, -I- don't know that. How would I? My first contact with you is having you trick a bid on my auction that was restricted to USA only, and having funny little things pop up to make me suspicious.
And as I said in the auction, No PayPal.
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Hi, Plaz! Yep, I don't remember what it was either.
I just saw your news article about the Amiga Atlanta website being back up. I archived the Nasa/JPL articles on the UPCHUG website, hope you don't mind.
I came back here to check up on that guy's story. This has been a nightmare.
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Polymorph: Hey whats up, thanks for those monitors! All were good except for one but I can't complain since the price was so good ;)
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@ polymorph & keropi
Guys, just a cautionary note having read the entire thread.
There have been some comments posted that *may* be taken in a different way to that in which they were intended; i.e. the 'tone' could be misinterpreted.
Polymorph - keropi can be trusted. He is a 'stand-up' guy, and will pay you. Without Paypal though, it might take a bit of time. Please bear in mind that PPC accelerators are highly desirable, and he wanted to get his sticky mitts on it before someone else used BIN. Ok, he couldn't wait 8 hours or so for a response, but in those 8 hours, someone else might have acquired it through BIN.
Keropi - Polymorph has every right to be suspicious, after all he doesn't actually know you, and if you put yourself in his shoes, you will see why he is nervous that someone used a little subterfuge (which is what it really is) to buy it. Would you feel 100% confident of a 0 feedback buyer in such a case, especially so when the person buying it has tried to buy through a 3rd party... and despite all of us on here knowing you are a decent bloke, its not actually a /guarantee/ insofar as polymorph is concerned. I know you trusted me a few months ago, but not everyone is as trusting as you.
Just a [hopefully unneccessary] cautionary tuppence worth.
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ofcourse Bidpay rejected it WITHOUT any explanation, thus proving it is a far inferior system than paypal where all is instant, but on bidpay u need to wait a working day.
I use the same CC like on paypal where I have a VERIFIED SELLER account, but noooo bidpay thinks different. maybe because it is targeted to America only, I don't care.
anyway I have emailed them requesting to know why.
if that fails, then it is western union / moneygram.
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keropi is a real amiga man one of the best amiga users here in Greece a good friend of mine, yes i know him his a very good person
nikos
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TjLaZer wrote:
Polymorph: Hey whats up, thanks for those monitors! All were good except for one but I can't complain since the price was so good ;)
How about double your money back? What's 2x zero? :'P
They make great video monitors, sharper and better built than any TV.
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keropi wrote:
ofcourse Bidpay rejected it WITHOUT any explanation, thus proving it is a far inferior system than paypal where all is instant, but on bidpay u need to wait a working day.
I don't feel the same way, obviously. Bidpay won't tell me why it rejected it, since it's none of my business. It didn't sound ominous. Their message said they were telling you, though.
It could be something a simple as a slight difference in your address. For instance, I'm in the habit of typing my address "3501 Sixth Ave" because it's less likely to get misread by a human than "3501 6th Ave", especially if I'm writing it. But some commerce websites only accept it if I type "6th" because that is how it is written on my CC bill.
I use the same CC like on paypal where I have a VERIFIED SELLER account, but noooo bidpay thinks different. maybe because it is targeted to America only, I don't care. anyway I have emailed them requesting to know why. if that fails, then it is western union / moneygram.
Without knowing any details, I can't tell you why. However, my auction does say USPS MO or BidPay/Western Union only, and specifically states no PayPal. So this isn't any surprise to you.
Of course, it also said no bids outside the US. :'/
I'm anxious to get this over with. In one of your private emails you said you couldn't do the Western Union thing until Monday, why is that?
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Just got your private message about why you can't do anything more until after the weekend.
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yeah, the bidpay won't tell me why they cannot complete my request, quite LAME of them... for informative reasons to anyone, look what they sent when I asked why they cannot procceed:
We apologize, but we are unable to process the order you requested. It failed to meet our validation requirements. As a responsible merchant, BidPay® reviews all orders and attempts to determine the legitimacy of the order. To protect the integrity of our validation process, we are unable to provide detailed information regarding the disapproval of your order. This information is specific to this order only, it does not mean that future orders will be cancelled.
way to go!
anyway, Monday is almost here :-)
please polymorph tell me if moneygram suits you as well, because I work outside the town in the industrial zone, and on the bank there, they also do moneygram transfers... or else I will make a trip on afternoon for WU transfer...
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hi keropi
just looked on ebay tonight and here is another 1 for sale
ships worldwide
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Amiga-1200-4000-Phase-5-Cyberstorm-PPC-Accelerator_W0QQitemZ230063655471QQihZ013QQcategoryZ98928QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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That's great, but he has already committed to buying mine.
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Wow! It's already up to about $305 USD with 6 days 9 hours to go, looks like I made a big mistake in using a BIN of only $600. ;')
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Wow! It's already up to about $305 USD with 6 days 9 hours to go, looks like I made a big mistake in using a BIN of only $600. ;')
I would of said so, but you limited your sale so that plays abig part in the price. But I guess time will only tell :-)
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nah, it was an OK price, remember that the csppc's in Europe go from 380eur! (yeah saw one for as little as 380, phase5 too but 200mhz) to 550eur... but it could sell for 700$ too...
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what the hell is wrong with crap BidPay?
they DENIED my payment to polymorph, but still my money for that payment are not free for use on my account, they are binded until released!???! is this lame or what?