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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: ravnen on December 01, 2006, 12:56:37 PM

Title: Battery change...
Post by: ravnen on December 01, 2006, 12:56:37 PM
Here is a picture of the ni-cd battery i pulled from my a4k, and a picture with a new battery from Amigakit soldered into place.

Before:
(http://thinkcity.no/amiga/1liten.jpg)

After:
(http://thinkcity.no/amiga/2liten.jpg)


Larger images here (http://thinkcity.no/amiga/1.JPG) and here (http://thinkcity.no/amiga/2.JPG)
Title: Re: Battery change...
Post by: AmiDude on December 01, 2006, 01:12:26 PM
Nice job! I did it xx times myself.:-D
But I can see that the old battery has
been leaking acid on U177.
Is the new battery still recharging?  
I'm asking this because I have had several
A4000 mobo's with the same damage on U177.
After removing the old battery and cleaning
the area around it and soldering a new battery,
it wouldn't recharge anymore.
The A4000 I own now, doesn't have that problem.
It's a Rev.D mobo with a coin type battery...
Title: Re: Battery change...
Post by: ravnen on December 01, 2006, 01:41:44 PM
I'll check if it charge, thanks for the tip, I did not know that this might be an issue.

Yes it was very messy around U177.

The previous owner was lucky that this machine ended up here :)

The phono connectors at the back is damaged as well, a wonder that the mainboard is still intact. I'll take som pictures of this as well.

Does anyone have a good tip for a method to fasten the cyberstorm card properly (screw it in place)? I always need to reseat it if I have moved the box.
Title: Re: Battery change...
Post by: ravnen on December 01, 2006, 01:57:46 PM
I used a voltmeter and checked the battery. It has a higher voltage when the computer is powered on, than when its off. That means that it is charging the battery, right?
Title: Re: Battery change...
Post by: Chain on December 01, 2006, 03:03:24 PM
Quote

ravnen wrote:
I used a voltmeter and checked the battery. It has a higher voltage when the computer is powered on, than when its off. That means that it is charging the battery, right?


sure!
Title: Re: Battery change...
Post by: A1200Power on December 01, 2006, 03:11:49 PM
Yeahh that's a battery allright !!!! :-D
Title: Re: Battery change...
Post by: countzero on December 01, 2006, 03:25:49 PM
why don't you just put a lithium battery with the hack, instead of putting a battery that can leak in time ?
Title: Re: Battery change...
Post by: rare_j on December 01, 2006, 03:39:14 PM
The old batteries are Ni-Cad and the new ones are NI-MH which are supposed not to leak (I hope) :idea:
Title: Re: Battery change...
Post by: ravnen on December 05, 2006, 09:39:51 AM
I am sorry to say that the clock still does not work.

I think AmiDude was right. After closer inspection, it looks like U177 has taken a beating.

Wellwell, I'll have to do with a ntp clock sync on every boot :/
Title: Re: Battery change...
Post by: amigakit on December 05, 2006, 09:47:14 AM
Next version of EasyNet (http://easynet.amigakit.com) will support NTP clock sync - you will have free upgrade.
Title: Re: Battery change...
Post by: ravnen on December 05, 2006, 09:56:53 AM
Thanks, this was my next question :P
Title: Re: Battery change...
Post by: zipper on December 05, 2006, 10:39:36 AM
Have you checked the continuity of the traces nearby - mine was broken even as it looked OK with 20x magnifier - just a little corroded. An easy job to fix by a jump wire.
Title: Re: Battery change...
Post by: ravnen on December 05, 2006, 10:42:58 AM
I will take another look at this, I think i spottet a broken path or two.
But it's not my no 1. priority :) But I hope to get this miggy in top shape (even got my hands on a new empty all-white desktop cabinet on ebay, to replace my very yellowed).
Title: Re: Battery change...
Post by: whiteb on December 05, 2006, 11:32:11 AM
How difficult is it to put a coin battery holder in place of the barrel.

My 4000's clock resets every time I power down, so the "Supposedly" replaced battery is either not recharging, or is just plain flat.

Replacing to a battery like the PC's have would be better. (Coin).
Title: Re: Battery change...
Post by: ravnen on December 05, 2006, 11:34:52 AM
Well, I've seen a lot of pictures of the "coin hack" .All you need is a diode to prevent the computer recharing the battery.

But I like it as similar in apperance as the original.

I have mesured my battery, and I know that it is both charging and have enought stored power. It just does not reach its destination.
Title: Re: Battery change...
Post by: AmiDude on December 05, 2006, 11:56:55 AM
@ravnen wrote:

Quote
Well, I've seen a lot of pictures of the "coin hack" .All you need is a diode to prevent the computer recharing the battery.


True, but that counts only for Rev.B mobo's. Rev.D mobo's
(like mine) doesn't need a diode, because they're not recharging. They left the factory with coin type battery's like the ones on PC's.
 :-D