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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: Atheist on May 26, 2003, 09:09:50 AM
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I was wondering if multiview is a good program?
I'm using WB 1.3, and have no idea of it's usefulness, but it sounds good, from what I've read, but couldn't find a review of it.
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It´s a very usefull utility. Couldn´t view amigaguides without it (I guess there was an amigaguideviewer for os2.x, but I´m not sure).
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Besides, it´s part of the OS3.x distribution.
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Personally no..
I use:
-mystic view
-cyberview PPC
but if you wanna quick show a picture then multiview
is a nice program
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yes, but doesn't run under WB1.3...
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The reason I posted to ask, is, couldn't it be enhanced to access the internet?
i.e. I upload to my webspace files in Amiga formats, text files, IFF's, 8svx's etc., then use multiview to "surf" to my and other sites with the same Amiga formatted files?
Could an "AmiVerse" be created on the internet, where we could hopscotch to sites only Amigas could "see"? Heh, heh!!
It could be connected with Cando, or AmigaGuide type crosslinks? Does this make any sense?
It wouldn't concern me if mozilla or opera or ie couldn't read my website.
AmigaOne! AmiVerse added to cyberspace, it's like a new plane in Advanced Dungeons and Dragons!
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Well it's great for quickly checking files of various types. And since it's aware of datatypes then it can handle newer formats.
But if you can cope fine with 1.3, you can probably manage without multiview :-)
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Well, if you wrote a really huge and complicated datatype then it could be used for your own private markup language on the internet I guess.
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Multiview is great! I love it - a simple one-stop program that can view any file you throw at it*. It is ideal for setting as a "default viewer" in YAM etc because it will, literally, load anything (pictures, anims, sound samples, video, text, hypertext, even structured drawings and tracker mods).
Alas, it won't work with 1.3 as it requires Datatypes which only became available in 3.0. Time to upgrade?
Chris
* providing you have a Datatype for the format
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Multiview? Well tuned, it handles everything, even Hypertext, html, word docs, or movies although it's yet bad at it.. But thaks to the datatypes it can be made the perfect overmind to the system... Next versions should handle skinning and streaming. If multiview is good ? It plays my mid music, shows me the inside of arcs, even finds me data into exes thanks to exe.datatype and a bit of tweaking. It's not only good, it's the thing we lack on other platforms. I just can't wait to see it updated at least. Multiview is one of the brightest amigaos 3.x ideas. ONE APP TO RULE IT ALL !
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Multiview is cool and has great potential: I hope Hyperion update it or provide a new and better implentation of it.
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Is MultiView good?
Well, yes and no. If one got a graphicsboard and a soundcard and have proper datatypes to handle everything, then yes, it's great. But if the answer is no to any of the three requirements mentioned, then no.
IMHO, MultiView is too advanced to be usefull with unexpanded Amigas.
Also, it's not suitable to browse large numbers of pictures/music/sounds in one go "as is". That require some more advanced app to handle things (like dopus).
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go for ViewTek;
very old, very simple but still handles almost anything you can throw at it, also its very small. goes great with a bong hit too! multiview is a bit more configurable and can run text-style things that viewtek don't (ie amigaguides..)
peace
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Nobody seemed to mention this, so I will:
MultiView won't run on 1.3 anyway. It only runs on 3.0 and higher.
Edit: Oops, RKY already did. I'm going blind...
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The best use I found for MultiView was as a helper app inside my DiskMaster setup.
Basically, MultiView's strength is that it will do something mostly appropriate at just about ANY file you throw at it. It's great for a "good enough" preview or look at any file.
(It's weakness is that usually it isn't the best at ANY of those things, though!)
So, what I did, was put a "Preview" option in DiskMaster (or DirOpus, or whatever your flavor of file maanger), and then you configure that button to use multiview on whatever file(s) are selected. So, you can pick three files of different types (say an audio, a video, and a text), and quickly get the contents of each displayed in an appropriate way, without having to worry about picking an appropriate app for each, or whatever... "It just works." (Provided you have the appropriate datatypes installed, and are running OS3.x)
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I find it interesting that there is no Windows equivelant (.. not that i've used anyway...). OK, XP explorer has the ability (and more...) but in earlier versions of Windows when you double click a file it opens a program... sometimes you don't won't to open that program, you just want to load the pic, anim, song or whatever, thats where a prog like multiview is a good idea.
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The whole datatypes system is far more elegant than what m$ have come up with so far. Does Amiga inc/Gateway have a patent on datatypes?
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Windows does have an equivalent to datatypes, called "filters". It's a system of DLL files located by registry entries that's nowhere near as elegant or as usable, but it does work.
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Datatypes rock. No other system I've used handles data formats quite as elegantly.
My only criticism is that theyr'e not bidirectional. An encode method in the datatype system would be very cool.
How nice it would then be if you could load a jpeg etc. into multiview and could save as any other (pixel based) image format you had a datatype for.
Definately something I want to see in later versions of the OS :-)
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Karlos wrote:
My only criticism is that theyr'e not bidirectional. An encode method in the datatype system would be very cool.
datatypes.library supports this already, but nobody uses it. There are a few Datatypes around that implement the save method, but I haven't seen any software that allows you to save using Datatypes - even Multiview doesn't allow it.
Chris
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I was wondering if multiview is a good program?
yep! i think so! its compact and it does the job
I'm using WB 1.3, and have no idea of it's usefulness, but it sounds good, from what I've read, but couldn't find a review of it.
its very usefull, extremly good
but not very usefull to you im afraid - it comes with AOS3.x and only works on those versions! :-D
there is no way in the world it will work on 1.3 :-o
i suggest you rush out and at least buy 3.1 (preferably 3.5)
you will be amazed by the difference!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
one difference is: your machine will seem a hell of a lot faster
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The reason I posted to ask, is, couldn't it be enhanced to access the internet?
were you planning on accessing the net from a 1.3 machine? :-o
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Hi iamaboringperson,
No, I'm gonna get an A1 G4XE. I'm not getting it till October of this year, due to finances being tied up.
I will try to buy one of the 1.3 GHz models Alan said were going to be made (should have enough).
And 2 gigs o' ram.
I was just thinking out loud, if I transferred files to my web space in the Amiga file formats, why couldn't multiview (on any other computer) pull them back off? HTML isn't the law of the internet after all. Let's face it, THEY won't know what they're missing.
No constant updates of viewers, all 12 of them!! :)
AmigaOne! It's the tops!
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KennyR wrote:
Edit: Oops, RKY already did. I'm going blind...
Tsk tsk. We all know what causes that, don't we?
(I am of course talking about studying too much and playing too little games ;-) )
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Datatypes as CODECs... Interesting concept!
Edit: Oh, and MultiView rules... I'd be lost without it!