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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Software Issues and Discussion => Topic started by: on May 25, 2003, 07:25:11 PM
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Well well well. After being sucked into many months of working 12-14 hour work weeks, and then trying to cope with it, playing PS2 and Xbox (yes my brother has an Xbox and he wants me to play games with him sometimes), I come back into the Amiga world after the hiatus and... :shocked:
...there is still no Amiga 4.0 or Amiga One? Wassup with that ? How can they still not be able to come up with a product? I remember telling my friends about this "new" system I was gonna get a long long long time ago. I held on hope. Still no system. Be me among some of the most faithful (or just naive). This is probably why most people have just quit Amiga all together. What will it take? Well at least I'm only working 10 hours a day and no weekends now :-D
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Welcome back ...
Welcome back to the waiting room that is :-D
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The XE boards are being delivered, and OS4 (PPC native!!!) is about to go on a tour. But things are still going slooooooooowly as ever.
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Nope still no OS4. On the bright side is I am typing this on a Pegasos
with MorphOS:-D
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justthatgood wrote:
...there is still no Amiga 4.0 or Amiga One?
Well, no OS4.0 yet (although, if you want to SEE it, it's going on tour soon), but the AmigaOne is available... I should know - there's one sitting in front of me right now :-)
Regards,
Ben de Waal
AKA Yttrium Oxide
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I gave up waiting and went for the Blue Side instead.
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Yeah not yet...
I think there is a better chance of either:
1- Jesus Return
2- Elvis is found alive
3- Jesus shows w/ Elvis and Jimi
And the wait goes on...
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ibm and moto made a cpu, then didn't make a practical way for someone else to make a functional computer with them. THAT'S where the problem stems from. They're sitting there saying, "gosh, why can't we sell a million cpu's per quarter, like intel???". Duuuhhhh!
It was only Feb. or March of this year that a proper board was made. So they were coding for 1 and half years, without a motherboard for AOS4.0 to work on.
That's what happens when you make a new computer with a shoestring budget.
I'll bet there are all kinds of other companies hovering around, considering the potential, but they all want to invest $1 and get 1 billion back. Maybe they should buy 1 lottery ticket per week to help their bottom line.
AmigaOne! The longshot that'll deliver!
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I think i missed something......
If a music artist, or a pop mucisian is going on tour
for that they sold a lot of CD's....
I think it is nice of the OS 4 team to going on tour but.!!!.!!..!!!
they forget to sell there product first to there public
:-D :-D
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I'm writing you from a fantastic Pegasos + MorphOS system too.
We have no OS4.0 ready yet, but after so many years we have a new Amiga machine. Its name is Pegasos.
Hey Amiga Inc.fanatics: no flame please.
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Don't panic. It's NDA info, but they work on a Time Machine along with the OS4 development, so OS4 will be (was) released in 2001 August, right on schedule.
Oh, where have I put my smilies? :-):-):-)
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SSSMoves wrote:
I think i missed something......
If a music artist, or a pop mucisian is going on tour
for that they sold a lot of CD's....
I think it is nice of the OS 4 team to going on tour but.!!!.!!..!!!
they forget to sell there product first to there public
:-D :-D
No, it's like the OS4 Launch or whatever they called that. (which was delayed, and now realised in the Tour I presume)
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Well, if you want that PPC experience and can't wait, I know that
there are still Pegasos motherboards running the AmigaOS compatable
MorphOS for sale still.
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welcome back.
its interesting to read the excuses...hey they've been working a year and a half without a motherboard....wow, I always thought they were doing the cyberstorm version first and they had the hardware the whole time....learn something new everyday :-)
anyway, it'll be a longer wait still, have fun with the
rest of us restless folk...only thing to decide is
whether you enjoy making excuses or poking holes
in excuses...other than that, just have to sit tight...
:-)
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I did the same thing KennyR did; I went to PCs. At first one of the Amigathlon/AmigaXL machines from SoftwareHut. After a serious mistake on my part that broke the software that came on it, my brother gave me XP Pro to try. I will never, ever, never go back to waiting on other people to supply me with nothing but promises for a machine and software that won't do half of what XP does on a high-end PC. Within one month, I had hardware and software on this machine that I never would have had on my A4000. I loved my Amiga days, but the choice between having all the newest gadgets and software and having nothing but promises -- well, that was an easy choice for me.
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When I first spent over an hour installing XP on my 900mhz duron, I knew I was in for some horrible, clunky OS. Then when it booted I was pleasantly surprised at how smooth it ran.
That only lasted a few hours though. After installing a few apps it slowed to a crawl. This OS was obviously made for toddlers, it prevents you from exerting any significant influence over the OS and is more bloated than the previous 3 OS's combined (there are hundreds and hundreds of DLL's in the system32 folder, just what the hell are they thinking?). Not to mention it looks awful.
I downgraded to Win2000 pro (and this was hell, because the win2k installer had to run in windows, and XP inhibited the installation because Microsoft always think they know better than you), so I had to install 98 and then install 2000 from 98.
Win2k was acceptable - I could almost like it (almost), but it still took 30 minutes to install and is very, very slow. I look forward to installing Os4 in a matter of minutes and booting in seconds on my new AmigaONE. :)
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I didn't say I went to PCs, fourwheels. ;-)
I actually bought a Pegasos (MorphOS = Blue Side). I have already owned a PC for many years and only really use it for Office97 (and occassionally websites I can't load in Amiga browsers). It is a P200, and I have a 1.3GHz Athlon in my home too - and neither come close to the speed of the Pegasos. I won't be buying another PC. Waste of money.
In fact, XP on the Athlon is perhaps the most slow OS I have ever used. It takes up to 10 seconds just to open the startmenu. I can't use that computer at all - my blood pressure goes through the roof every time I try because of its irritating slowness. I'm getting a headache right now thinking about it. It really needs a memory upgrade, I think - 128MB is not enough for XP. (Hmmmhphhh!).
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Quiesce, all I can say to that is you're doing something wrong. I've been using XP Pro for months on a 1.4ghz Amithlon machine, and I not only love it for the way it looks, I love its speed, its file handling (especially photos), and pretty much everything else about it. Completely plug 'n play, completely fast, completely great.
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@ KennyR
RAM is probably the main problem, combined with not enough performance tweaks.
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Oops, sorry, thought you meant PCs. I'll never quite understand the mindset. When I used an Amiga, I was willing to put hundreds of dollars into it to make it run better. Now I'm willing to do the same with my PC. Why does there seem to be a double standard among most Amigans? XP is simply fantastic if you're willing to give it a decent PC to run it on. The Media Player alone is worth it. 1.4ghz is plenty of processor speed, then give it 500mbs of RAM, and you'll still have spent less than you would on nearly anything in the Amiga world right now.
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Waiting and excuses is Amigas past, present and future, these companies are doing more damage than good.
Either release something or call it a day, even the die hards must be pissed off by now.
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@Paul_Gadd
Genesi released something months ago. Give Pegasos-UK or GGS a call
and buy a Pegasos.
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The Media Player alone is worth it. 1.4ghz is plenty of processor speed, then give it 500mbs of RAM, and you'll still have spent less than you would on nearly anything in the Amiga world right now.
We obviously don't understand each other's mindset. Yes, if I wanted to upgrade my Amiga, it would cost me a fortune. But with my Pegasos it costs me less than £150 more overall for the same PC spec, the only real difference being the main CPU.
See, the whole point is not just feeding bloatware more and more hardware for it to waste - that's a never-ending cycle, just like upgrading a 1991-made Amiga. I cut out of both cycles a long time ago. I don't want to buy a new CPU or GFX card or DIMM every 6 months just because Microsoft can't code.
PS: Windows Media Player is total cack. ;-) There are much better players on the Windows platform.
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I've been using XP Pro for months on a 1.4ghz Amithlon machine, and I not only love it for the way it looks, I love its speed, its file handling (especially photos), and pretty much everything else about it. Completely plug 'n play, completely fast, completely great.
Fast compared to what? The problem is you have no basis for comparison, probably never having seen AmigaOS run on modern hardware. Use MorphOS on a Pegasos, or AROS, Amithlon, or QNX on your PC for a week, and when you go back you'll get as irritated with XP as I do for being a total slug. I prefer apps to load in less than a second, rather than less than 30!
Edit: In fact, you should even try Windows2k on your PC - it ain't fast, but you should see the difference between it and XP immediately. You won't go back.
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See, the whole point is not just feeding bloatware more and more hardware for it to waste - that's a never-ending cycle, just like upgrading a 1991-made Amiga. I cut out of both cycles a long time ago. I don't want to buy a new CPU or GFX card or DIMM every 6 months just because Microsoft can't code.
Don't forget Windows is also buggy and unsecure.
I hate the registry countless times my computer didn't work becouse of a single line in the registry hell it make me wish for the days of the super long Config.sys in OS/2 wich I bitched about.
My Win98SE still sometimes hangs on shutdown I just gave up tring to fix it as I don't think it is worth it.
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I'm unfortunately running XP at the moment, although AmigaOS3.1 seems far more responsive on a processor 28 times slower (excluding all the optimisations an Athlon has that a 030 doesn't)
Sometimes it freezes on shutdown as well. And a couple of days ago it refused to recognise my profile, so I had to customise everything again. All probably because of a faulty line in the registry.
But it's still much better than a 32-bit shell and various applications kludged onto DOS.