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Title: Very OT: Moving from UK to Canada
Post by: STeADi on November 18, 2006, 10:21:33 PM
Hello all

This is a very off topic question but as there are so many different nations represented (and you are all so friendly), I thought this might be a good place to ask some questions.

I'm thinking of moving from the UK to Canada and I was wondering if anyone on here has already done this or knows someone who has.

I've got the usual items like computers and games consoles and I'd love to take them with me if I went.  I know how to check the voltages to see if they can be used in Canada but how about the ones that are set to around 230v.  I've been looking at transformers that allow the use of these items in Canada but I'm not sure of how good they are to use.  Anyone got any experience in this?

I'm sure I may have some more question if there is anything else I think of and if anyone has some suggestions.

Thanks very much :-)

STeADi
Title: Re: Very OT: Moving from UK to Canada
Post by: uncleted on November 18, 2006, 11:59:31 PM
I moved from Australia to Canada, not quite the same situation, but I can try to help.  Australia has the same voltage and standards as the UK for what it's worth.  

Since you're just thinking about it, be aware that if you don't have a wife/girlfriend/partner or parent from Canada, immigration will take a long time.  Skilled migration is a couple of years minimum and the UK office is very busy.

Canada is ~120V/60Hz and NTSC.  Most PC PSUs have a switch between 240 and 120V, so that's pretty easy.  I think many LCDs have auto-switching power supplies, other monitors probably not.

Transformers for anything beefy are going to blow your budget.  For tiny appliances (stuff that runs off of those little wall wart DC adapters) they're OK, but transformers for bigger hardware can cost a bit.  Some devices don't like transformers because they generally don't do a proper sine wave.  Your consoles _should_ be OK with a transformer, but you'll need a TV that can do PAL - we had to hunt these out specifically, but most of the new plasma or LCD TVs seem to be able to do PAL.

Shipping can get expensive, especially because you may have to pay GST+provincial tax for what you import.  If you kept your receipts for stuff you bought, you may be able to get VAT refunds when you leave.

If you have a UK drivers licence, you should be able to convert it to a Canadian one without much trouble, but they will take your UK one away.

Any ideas where specifically you might want to live?
Title: Re: Very OT: Moving from UK to Canada
Post by: STeADi on November 19, 2006, 10:11:28 PM
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uncleted wrote:

Since you're just thinking about it, be aware that if you don't have a wife/girlfriend/partner or parent from Canada, immigration will take a long time.  Skilled migration is a couple of years minimum and the UK office is very busy.



Thankfully this situation is covered for me.  I have been offered a job by a company based in Canada so they will take care of the immigration and sort out the Visas for both myself and my partner.

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Canada is ~120V/60Hz and NTSC.  Most PC PSUs have a switch between 240 and 120V, so that's pretty easy.  I think many LCDs have auto-switching power supplies, other monitors probably not.


That's cool.  I thought that was the case but I'm at the point now I think that I'd leave my PC's and just take my Mac Mini and maybe buy a new PC out there (I need a new one anyway ;-) )

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Transformers for anything beefy are going to blow your budget.  For tiny appliances (stuff that runs off of those little wall wart DC adapters) they're OK, but transformers for bigger hardware can cost a bit.  Some devices don't like transformers because they generally don't do a proper sine wave.  Your consoles _should_ be OK with a transformer, but you'll need a TV that can do PAL - we had to hunt these out specifically, but most of the new plasma or LCD TVs seem to be able to do PAL.


Ah okay, this is the interesting bit.  I'd like to take my LCD HDTV out with me that is locked to 230v and of course my consoles.  I'm looking at the transformers listed at the bottom of the page here:

http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_Index/Necessities_Index/UK_to_USA_Converter/index.html

to possibly power my LCD TV and one console at a time.  I think that the 1000Va transformer near the bottom could power my TV which is 190watts and a console which I'm sure wouldn't have a high wattage.  I'm thinking of emailing the website to ask.  I think I'm willing to pay their prices if they are an adequate solution.

Of course region locking is then an issue but I'm not too bothered by that at the moment.

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Shipping can get expensive, especially because you may have to pay GST+provincial tax for what you import.  If you kept your receipts for stuff you bought, you may be able to get VAT refunds when you leave.


Shipping is also handled by my potential new employers too so hopefully that should be fine.  However we might want to ship more than the budget allows so that is some useful info, thanks.

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If you have a UK drivers licence, you should be able to convert it to a Canadian one without much trouble, but they will take your UK one away.


Wow! :-? I didn't know that one.  I'm not sure I fancy giving up my UK drivers licence.  I have a feeling I may stick to public transport out there as from my short visit it seems very good.

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Any ideas where specifically you might want to live?


Vancouver :-)

Thanks very much for your help.  You provided me some useful answers and probably some further questions ;-)

STeADi
Title: Re: Very OT: Moving from UK to Canada
Post by: GadgetMaster on November 19, 2006, 10:56:21 PM
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STeADi wrote:
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uncleted wrote:

Thanks very much for your help.  You provided me some useful answers and probably some further questions ;-)

STeADi


Don't forget to tell us of your migration experience when you get there. I would be interested to hear of how it compares to the UK.

Good luck. :-)
Title: Re: Very OT: Moving from UK to Canada
Post by: alenppc on November 20, 2006, 12:54:35 AM
Welcome! :-D

I work for a British company here in Montreal, and we've got lots of Britons working in our office, some of them even moved here permanently. I guess they must like the winter. ;-)

All the problems regarding electronics (power converters etc) are easy to solve. The power up/down converters are usually sold in most electronic component shops and range from 50W to over 2000W with price ranges between $100 to $250 (CDN). Divide by 2 to obtain an equivalent in UKP.

All the PAL consoles (PS2/Xbox/GC/etc) work fine with power converters - we've got 100s of each (consoles and converters) at our office. Hardly any TV supports PAL unless you look for a specific multisystem one - or bring an lcd one with you.

Oh, and don't go to Futureshop to buy your PC, like most newcomers do. :-) You'll end up paying it twice as much. Since you are going to Vancouver I might recommend ncix.com as your one stop shop for all pc related stuff. Futureshop and occasionally HMV usually have some good deals on games and movies.
British comedies are outrageously expensive though. It is cheaper for me to buy them from the UK and pay the import duties rather than buying them here (I have a region free DVD player).

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Very OT: Moving from UK to Canada
Post by: aardvark on November 20, 2006, 05:54:19 AM
I think sales taxes only apply to any thing purchased in the last six months or so, otherwise whatever kit you have shipped here should be tax and dutyfree. You can get voltage converters easy enough, but things like record players and vcrs are hertz sensitive. 60 Hz here and 50 Hz in Europe.  Anyway, you can get a cheap DVD player for 50$ or so here. For most computers only a change of cord would be needed. For an LCD TV, a new power adapter would be easy to come by, but I don't know if there are any frequency issues.
Title: Re: Very OT: Moving from UK to Canada
Post by: STeADi on November 20, 2006, 01:20:44 PM
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GadgetMaster wrote:

Don't forget to tell us of your migration experience when you get there. I would be interested to hear of how it compares to the UK.

Good luck. :-)


 :-)   I shall do that.  I certainly will be keeping close tabs of Amiga.org once over there.

And I see you're from Lancashire.  I shall miss Lancashire the most as it's my home county :boohoo:
Title: Re: Very OT: Moving from UK to Canada
Post by: Karlos on November 20, 2006, 01:26:03 PM
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STeADi wrote:
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GadgetMaster wrote:

Don't forget to tell us of your migration experience when you get there. I would be interested to hear of how it compares to the UK.

Good luck. :-)


 :-)   I shall do that.  I certainly will be keeping close tabs of Amiga.org once over there.

And I see you're from Lancashire.  I shall miss Lancashire the most as it's my home county :boohoo:


Whereabouts? It's my "adopted" county :-D
Title: Re: Very OT: Moving from UK to Canada
Post by: STeADi on November 20, 2006, 01:34:57 PM
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alenppc wrote:
Welcome! :-D

All the problems regarding electronics (power converters etc) are easy to solve. The power up/down converters are usually sold in most electronic component shops and range from 50W to over 2000W with price ranges between $100 to $250 (CDN). Divide by 2 to obtain an equivalent in UKP.



Thankyou.  It sounds cheaper than buying one here.  That's made me slightly happier about it all.

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All the PAL consoles (PS2/Xbox/GC/etc) work fine with power converters - we've got 100s of each (consoles and converters) at our office. Hardly any TV supports PAL unless you look for a specific multisystem one - or bring an lcd one with you.


Again, that's put my mind at ease.  I hope to take my LCD TV over so that should sort out the PAL problems.  What kind of company do you work in?  Sounds like a games company perhaps?

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Oh, and don't go to Futureshop to buy your PC, like most newcomers do. :-) You'll end up paying it twice as much.


Now that's advice I like to hear :-) Advice to save me money.  It's actually a little daunting to be honest. When I was over there a few weeks back I bought a couple of CD's I've struggled to get from the UK from HMV.  In the UK I tend to avoid HMV usually and use the net for cheaper stuff.  The prices of games in HMV there seemed quite high too. More than I was expecting anyway.

Knowing where the best places to get things froms will be 'interesting' to say the least.

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Since you are going to Vancouver I might recommend ncix.com as your one stop shop for all pc related stuff. Futureshop and occasionally HMV usually have some good deals on games and movies.


Great, thanks for that. Mental note made.  

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British comedies are outrageously expensive though. It is cheaper for me to buy them from the UK and pay the import duties rather than buying them here (I have a region free DVD player).



Any TV programmes that belong to the BBC are expensive on DVD in the UK too.  They can charge a stupid amount for a series that only has 6 episodes when you can pay the same for an American comedy with 24 episodes.  Typical rip off BBC!! I certainly wouldn't miss the TV License. ;-)

A region free DVD player would certainly be a must for me I think too.

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Hope this helps.


It certainly has, thankyou very much.
Title: Re: Very OT: Moving from UK to Canada
Post by: STeADi on November 20, 2006, 01:37:02 PM
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aardvark wrote:

For an LCD TV, a new power adapter would be easy to come by, but I don't know if there are any frequency issues.


Yes that is a concern.  I shall be double checking my TV to see what it takes. I may even mail the manufacturer to see if they have any suggestions other than buying another TV.

Thanks.
Title: Re: Very OT: Moving from UK to Canada
Post by: uncleted on November 20, 2006, 02:31:17 PM
There's no TV licence, but you really have to have cable - although you get much more from it.

Futureshop isn't the worst amongst "electronics" stores by any means.  Best Buy is the worst.  Neither are great places to buy computer parts from.  NCIX is good and so is Tigerdirect.ca if you can't find it locally.

You'll probably enjoy the lower prices for just about anything electronic too, and probably most other stuff compared to the UK.  It's also much roomier, especially if you've lived in a big city like London.  

You'll maybe miss some home TV (although BBC Canada is tolerable apart from the stupid renovation shows) and home food.  They seem to have only 5 flavours of crisps here, bland "cookies" and crappy "candy".  It may be hard to get a good curry.  Winter is obviously an adjustment although Vancouver is very mild.

I'd say the reason people like it in Montreal is that it's a single man's paradise :P  Montreal is a great city if you can get past the winter.
Title: Re: Very OT: Moving from UK to Canada
Post by: alenppc on November 21, 2006, 01:13:22 AM
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Again, that's put my mind at ease.  I hope to take my LCD TV over so that should sort out the PAL problems.  What kind of company do you work in?  Sounds like a games company perhaps?



The company I work for offers mostly games functionality testing services plus general pc, console and mobile EU languages localization/translation and testing. Since I am fluent in a couple of languages, I work in the localization department. :-)

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The prices of games in HMV there seemed quite high too. More than I was expecting anyway.


Sorry my fault, I should have been more specific. HMV is usually good for DVDs, they often have these "3 movies for $20" specials and sometimes you can find some very interesting titles for that price (i.e. not just those in the bargain bin).

Futureshop and Wal-mart are the best place for pc & console software but not hardware.

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Any TV programmes that belong to the BBC are expensive on DVD in the UK too.  They can charge a stupid amount for a series that only has 6 episodes when you can pay the same for an American comedy with 24 episodes.  Typical rip off BBC!!


Well that depends on your point of view. IMHO 80% of  American TV programs are trash. There might be an average of 25 episodes per season but there's hardly any quality at all.

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I certainly wouldn't miss the TV License. ;-)


I am willing to bet that you will. ;-) Here you don't pay the licence but you have to pay for cable. For instance, Rogers or Vidéotron charge anything from $30 to over $70 per month for cable service and offer you 70 channels of nothing! All you get is endless commercials with bits of tv shows sliced inbetween. I stopped paying for cable and generally watching TV a long time ago. I would certanly be willing to pay a TV lincence and have commercial-free high-quality stuff like the BBC rather than be forced to watch that crap on cable.

Much easier to rent/buy a DVD and watch it at your convenience, that's what I say.

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A region free DVD player would certainly be a must for me I think too.


I admit I am not up to date with the latest plasma/lcd tv technology, however for standard NTSC TVs it is not enough to get a DVD player that can be unlocked or made region free. It has to be capable of converting PAL to NTSC otherwise you won't be able to see anything (except perhaps a rolling picture). I don't know what percentage of DVD players does this nowdays, but I suspect that a $39 player from wal-mart might not be up to the task. All of the European players do that out of the box but that's easy since the NTSC resolution is lower. The other way round is a bit more complicated.

Regarding power supply frequency issues that someone else mentioned in this thread, in 95% of the cases that should NOT be a problem. I used lots of different EU based equipment over the years, including PAL VCRs, 14" CRT TVs and lots more with a power converter and never had a problem. Generally speaking anything manufactured after 1995 should work fine. Modern TVs never sync to the power source frequency rate anyway and AFAIK haven't done that for at least a couple of decades. :-)

Oh btw, what's the company you are going to work for, if I might ask?

I hope for your sake it's not EA. ;-) From what I hear they might not be the best software developer to work for.
Relic/THQ on the other hand is an awesome company, I worked there on-site for two months.

If you want to bring along your GSM mobile phone, you can use it over here as long as it's unlocked and supports 850/1900 Mhz frequencies (1900 should be sufficient although you will not get the full coverage). Then just go to the nearest Rogers or Fido store and get a sim card for $25. Bell/Telus use proprietary CDMA standard so you won't be able to use them unless you buy one of their crappy phones.

Regarding Montral, in my opinion this is one of the most beautiful cities in North America, or at least the most European looking one. That's why I love it and I hope I will never have to move. Cheers! :cheers:
Title: Re: Very OT: Moving from UK to Canada
Post by: uncleted on November 21, 2006, 01:58:09 AM
Almost all DVD players should be able to do PAL nowadays, but unless you can set them up to output PAL, you'll get PAL converted to NTSC on the fly.  Maybe the more expensive players do a good job of it, but for the most part, PAL converted to NTSC looks washed out and sluggish - picture it being played underwater.

I use a modded XBox to play DVDs on, and a rather cheap but large "Prima" CRT TV that does proper PAL on a couple of inputs.  It took some hunting to find it.

Pretty crap really that we have such a hard time getting TVs that do PAL in North America, considering if you're in a PAL region practically every TV from the last 15 years will do NTSC.
Title: Re: Very OT: Moving from UK to Canada
Post by: Ral-Clan on November 23, 2006, 03:04:07 PM
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Regarding Montral, in my opinion this is one of the most beautiful cities in North America, or at least the most European looking one. That's why I love it and I hope I will never have to move. Cheers!  


Montreal is nice, but it sounds like you've never been to Quebec City then?
Title: Re: Very OT: Moving from UK to Canada
Post by: STeADi on November 23, 2006, 09:47:55 PM
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alenppc wrote:

The company I work for offers mostly games functionality testing services plus general pc, console and mobile EU languages localization/translation and testing. Since I am fluent in a couple of languages, I work in the localization department. :-)



Is the company Babel by any chance.  I think that's who we once used.  Hmmm, I think that was the name. :-?

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The prices of games in HMV there seemed quite high too. More than I was expecting anyway.


Sorry my fault, I should have been more specific. HMV is usually good for DVDs, they often have these "3 movies for $20" specials and sometimes you can find some very interesting titles for that price (i.e. not just those in the bargain bin).

Futureshop and Wal-mart are the best place for pc & console software but not hardware.



Okay great thanks.  I'll be sure to check them out.  Is Futureshop a big superstore chain or a small outlet chain like Electronics Boutique/Game?

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Any TV programmes that belong to the BBC are expensive on DVD in the UK too.  They can charge a stupid amount for a series that only has 6 episodes when you can pay the same for an American comedy with 24 episodes.  Typical rip off BBC!!


Well that depends on your point of view. IMHO 80% of  American TV programs are trash. There might be an average of 25 episodes per season but there's hardly any quality at all.


I know what you mean.  There is some American TV I really don't enjoy.   But things like Lost and 24 IMHO have just surpassed UK tv.  The days of Cracker and Fawlty Towers seem to have gone :-(

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I certainly wouldn't miss the TV License. ;-)


I am willing to bet that you will. ;-) Here you don't pay the licence but you have to pay for cable. For instance, Rogers or Vidéotron charge anything from $30 to over $70 per month for cable service and offer you 70 channels of nothing! All you get is endless commercials with bits of tv shows sliced inbetween. I stopped paying for cable and generally watching TV a long time ago. I would certanly be willing to pay a TV lincence and have commercial-free high-quality stuff like the BBC rather than be forced to watch that crap on cable.



So is the only way to get TV through cable?  I would like to get broadband to keep in contact with people in the UK but I'm not interested in spending lots of money on cable TV.  I don't have cable or satellite TV here and simply use the freeview box to receive the free to air digital channels (and I don't watch those much).

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Much easier to rent/buy a DVD and watch it at your convenience, that's what I say.


I'm right there with you on that one :-D

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Regarding power supply frequency issues that someone else mentioned in this thread, in 95% of the cases that should NOT be a problem. I used lots of different EU based equipment over the years, including PAL VCRs, 14" CRT TVs and lots more with a power converter and never had a problem. Generally speaking anything manufactured after 1995 should work fine. Modern TVs never sync to the power source frequency rate anyway and AFAIK haven't done that for at least a couple of decades. :-)


That's good news. That is one thing that worried me slightly.

I wonder if anyone could provide me a link in fact for a suitable transformer from a Canadian website?  I've found the one in the link I posted further up the thread but I'd prefer to get one out there if possible.

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Oh btw, what's the company you are going to work for, if I might ask?

I hope for your sake it's not EA. ;-)


Um, it's funny you should say that ;-) I have a friend who works there and he's been really happy there for a while now.  Hopefully I will be too.

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If you want to bring along your GSM mobile phone, you can use it over here as long as it's unlocked and supports 850/1900 Mhz frequencies (1900 should be sufficient although you will not get the full coverage). Then just go to the nearest Rogers or Fido store and get a sim card for $25. Bell/Telus use proprietary CDMA standard so you won't be able to use them unless you buy one of their crappy phones.


I was thinking of getting a phone whilst I was out there.  Do they do pay-as-you-go or do you have to have a fixed contract?

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Regarding Montral, in my opinion this is one of the most beautiful cities in North America, or at least the most European looking one. That's why I love it and I hope I will never have to move. Cheers! :cheers:
 

It sounds like so many people are happy in Canada.  It's good to know :-)

Thanks your help  :-) I'm getting quite excited :-D
Title: Re: Very OT: Moving from UK to Canada
Post by: uncleted on November 23, 2006, 10:58:09 PM
I have been to Quebec City.  It's very pretty, but even putting aside language issues (although my French is slowly improving), I'd never want to live there.  Each to their own though.

Futureshop is a big chain.  You can buy most major appliances there.  We also have EB Games which is the same thing as Electronics Boutique/Gamestop.

The only Free to Air stuff I've gotten is CBC/Radio Canada stations, so cable is a requirement.  Some people in Vancouver claim to get Seattle/Washington TV which has much more available.  By the same token we should probably be able to get Vermont/New York TV here, but I've had no luck.  You might get CTV, Global or Vancouver specific stations too.  CTV and Global cover basically everything good on ABC, CBS, Fox, NBC, so if you can get those you could probably live without cable.

We have digital TV here, cable/satellite is naturally the best source for it, but again I believe it's possible to get it free to air, but it's a different standard (ATSC?) so no need to bring the freeview box.

Phonewise you can do either pay-as-you-go or contract.  Check rogers.ca or fido.ca.  I'm not sure if you have Virgin in BC, but I think they're pay-as-you-go.  One weird thing about Canada/North America is that they charge you for both incoming calls and outgoing calls, but they finally seem to be changing that now.
Title: Re: Very OT: Moving from UK to Canada
Post by: alenppc on November 24, 2006, 02:24:59 AM
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STeADi wrote:

Is the company Babel by any chance.  I think that's who we once used.  Hmmm, I think that was the name. :-?


Yep, that's the one. :-D

I won't comment on functionality (high turnover etc), but we localization guys know our job, that's for sure. ;-)
I don't think a single client was ever disappointed with our work which includes some very well known titles as well.

Hey I might even get to meet you in person if I ever happen to be working on-site for your company, you never know.

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So is the only way to get TV through cable?  I would like to get broadband to keep in contact with people in the UK but I'm not interested in spending lots of money on cable TV.


As already mentioned in this thread, you can only get 5-6 channels over the air, but as far as I know there are no digital stations that broadcast that way, at least not in my area. It's not exactly popular as I think almost everyone subscribes to cable. But as far as I'm concerned cable and tv are a waste of time and money whichever way you look at it.

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I wonder if anyone could provide me a link in fact for a suitable transformer from a Canadian website?  I've found the one in the link I posted further up the thread but I'd prefer to get one out there if possible.


When I bought mine years ago, I simply walked into the first electronics shop I came by and I bought it there. Other than that I'm not really into electronics stuff so I don't know a lot of stores. I suggest you try looking on electronic hobbyst related newsgroups, I found some really nice folks there who helped me repair my VCR a few years back.

The only store I know of in the Vancouver area (and that's because I bought Amiga DB23 connectors there) is RP Electronics, they also sell power converters. But I am sure there must be other stores in the area though.

Check it out: http://www.rpelectronics.com/

Click on "Catalog", "Electrical", then "Foreign Voltage Adapters". Also don't forget to set your currency to CAD.

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Um, it's funny you should say that ;-) I have a friend who works there and he's been really happy there for a while now.  Hopefully I will be too.


Well let's just say that it works for some people but it doesn't for others. There isn't that much innovation going on at EA, everything is preset, they always play it safe, and they usually follow a very rigid, almost-military discipline, at least that's what I heard. But then again, that was mostly from people who left the company - so I don't know how objective those views were. I sincerely hope that you will like it there.

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I was thinking of getting a phone whilst I was out there.  Do they do pay-as-you-go or do you have to have a fixed contract?


Fixed term contracts are way the most popular ones, and that's usually because the mobile providers offer huge discounts when you buy a phone. On the other hand there are lots of hidden fees, so it is not uncommon that you end up paying $60/month for a plan that is actually advertised at $25/month. They lock you into a 2 or 3 year contract, give you a free phone, then suck your blood. :-)

I have always been on prepaid for this reason, even though it means that I have to pay the full price when I want to buy a new phone and I have no international roaming possibilities (other than the USA), which is no big deal, as I usually buy a local prepaid sim card whenever I am visiting another country.

Virgin mobile here is using Bell's CDMA network (no sim cards) and their phone choice is unbelievably bad. Rogers however usually has the very same deals on pay as you go (such as $100, 365-days expiry cards) but they don't advertise them in order to keep as many people on monthly plans as possible. They also sell them only in Rogers stores, not at the reseller's. There are no hidden fees for prepaid other than the monthly 911 fee (50 cents).

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It sounds like so many people are happy in Canada.  It's good to know :-)


Well you may or may not like it... Just like work, it doesn't work for everybody.
Vancouver is also a highly multicultural city, which I bet is going to be a bit unusual for someone coming from the UK. :-) But that's a good thing... no one will expect of you to live according to some pre-set standard or to abandon your culture or traditions as it happens in some (ehm) countries.

Even so, there are still some rules that you need to get used to, such as 2-weeks of paid leave/holiday per year, occasionally long working hours (especially in the software industry, but I'm sure it's the same in the UK as well), etc... not to mention the cold and the snow, but you won't have to worry too much about that as long as you live in BC :lol:

Title: Re: Very OT: Moving from UK to Canada
Post by: alenppc on November 24, 2006, 02:42:08 AM
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Montreal is nice, but it sounds like you've never been to Quebec City then?


No, unfortunately I have never been there. To be honest with you my French sadly is not that good. Montreal is bilingual enough, so I have no problems from that point of view, but Quebec City is another story...

I do plan to improve my French in the future, which should not be too difficult as it would be my 4th language and I alredy have some base, but sadly with my long working hours I don't have as much time to do it. :cry:
Still I hope that I will be able to visit Quebec City in the future.
Title: Re: Very OT: Moving from UK to Canada
Post by: aardvark on November 25, 2006, 09:23:38 AM
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If you have a UK drivers licence, you should be able to convert it to a Canadian one without much trouble, but they will take your UK one away.


I don't know about that, but you can get an"International Drivers Licence" through the Auto Club (perhaps elsewhere as well) don't know the rules on how long you can use that if you're a resident, (but then they could 'take' that one instead. :-)

Best Buy owns Future Shop so their prices are comparible (different items are on sale at the same time though)

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Here you don't pay the licence but you have to pay for cable.


You can get six or so stations with a set of rabbit ears, but quality will vary depending on where you live with ghosting and fuzzy reception, if you want broadband internet, you can deal with the phone company or with cable company. I prefer cable. If you want, the cable company also has a VOIP phone service. (unlimited long distance in Canada and the US and also 1000 minutes to Europe) The phone company will charge twice that for service and long distance is not included.  Virgin, Telus, Rogers, and Fido(owned by Rogers) have pay as you go cell service I think basic cable is about $20. I pay $105 for extra high speed broadband and most available channels (around 70 or so), but not too many specialty digital channels. Satelite TV is better in as much as you can pick and choose which channels you want, but you lose flexibility if you have more than one tv, which requires extra recievers.

Wal-mart, Future Shop, Superstore, Best Buy and Rogers Video are also good places for new DVDs, but I like to buy Previously viewed from an assortment of video stores (Rogers, Blockbuster, Movie Gallery)Pawnshops and specialty DVD/Cd/VHS secondhand stores.

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I wonder if anyone could provide me a link in fact for a suitable transformer from a Canadian website?


Sure  The Source (http://www.thesourcecc.com) or  Radio Shack (http://www.radioshack.ca/en/index.asp) .  Circuit city bought most Radio shacks in Canada and Radio Shacks are just starting to come back into Canada with a few stores here and there.

Oh and Vancouver may not be that cold, but it rains and rains and rains...  :-D  Come and visit Edmonton while you're in BC, best time is late spring to early fall.  lots of festivals here in the summer. Best are The Fringe (live theatre modeled after the Edinburgh Fringe), Heritage days (more meat on a stick than you can well.. shake a stick at :-D  ) always something on in the summer, maybe even make a side trip to Calgary for the Stampede rodeo (if you like cowboys)
Title: Re: Very OT: Moving from UK to Canada
Post by: uncleted on November 25, 2006, 02:26:59 PM
The missus got an international licence when she came to Australia with me a while back.  It lasts a year.  The reason she got it is because hers is in French, which doesn't mean much to the average Aussie police officer.  Obviously a UK licence will be in English so that won't be a problem.

You should be allowed to drive under your UK one for a while, not sure exactly for how long, but if you do become a real resident you're supposed to get a Canadian one.

You might want to check or ask at British Expats (http://britishexpats.com/forum/).  Plenty of good advice there.
Title: Re: Very OT: Moving from UK to Canada
Post by: alenppc on November 25, 2006, 09:18:15 PM
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Sure  The Source (http://www.thesourcecc.com) or  Radio Shack (http://www.radioshack.ca/en/index.asp) .  Circuit city bought most Radio shacks in


I had no idea RadioShack was coming back... I haven't seen one of their stores for quite some time. Are they going to be just like the old ones? I mean clones of "The Source" with very common and overpriced items you can easily buy elswhere for 1/2 price? Or is it actually going to be a real electronics store? Their website looks pretty useless.

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Oh and Vancouver may not be that cold, but it rains and rains and rains...  :-D


That'll make him feel right at home. :lol:

Title: Re: Very OT: Moving from UK to Canada
Post by: X-ray on November 27, 2006, 10:29:47 AM
This business of exchanging drivers licenses is a common theme. They did the same to me here in the UK. They gave me a UK one but cancelled the SA one (actually stamped it in my ID book). Of course I didn't tell them I had a card license too, so I had both licenses for a while. Now the SA one has expired because you have to renew it every 5 years and I have to go there to renew it. More money for the authorities innit?
Title: Re: Very OT: Moving from UK to Canada
Post by: aardvark on November 28, 2006, 06:00:23 AM
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I had no idea RadioShack was coming back


Very slowly, there are 3 in Edmonton, I haven't been in yet to see the changes if any, but I drive past one regularly and can verify it's there. :-D
Title: Re: Very OT: Moving from UK to Canada
Post by: FluffyMcDeath on December 07, 2006, 09:31:04 PM
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Vancouver :-)



Good answer.