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Amiga computer related discussion => General chat about Amiga topics => Topic started by: AmiBoy on November 17, 2006, 09:04:41 PM
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Hi I dont know if this is in the right forum but if it isnt can a mod move it.
This is a small warning from me for people to not buy anyting of a person calling themselves Tiago Silva/Luis Pereira.
He was advertising a Blizzard PPC 200Mhz with 060 for a nice small sum! I snapped at the chance and email him saying that I would pay his offer.
He didnt accept paypal so we opted for a bank transfer it took me a few days to get to the bak to get the documnets but i kept asuring him via emil that I was very interested in the board.
I eventually got to the bank and filled in the relevent document and got it processed.
It took about 3 days for the bank to process the form and send the money and it did leave my account.
I sent an email informing him that the money had gone....he appeard to keep stalling by saying the money ahdnt arrived.
A few days later he did an about turn and claimed that someone had come in with a better offer than mine and he was sending the board to him.
From my point of view he had sold MY board onto someone else as he had recieved my money.
A few swapped emails later he said that he was sending me my money back.....it has failed to have happened and he now appears uncontactable.
I really want my money back and dont know how to proceed...its possibly been to long i didnt do anythng for awhile as I have been so busy wit alot of stuff to cope with and that I gave him the benefit of he doubt and thought he would send it to me eventually).
Does anyone have any advice for me???
If anyone has any dealings with this person be causious and remind him that he ows me money!
AmiBoy
aka Mark Roberts
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What a scumbag. Prosecute him as much as is possible. Get in touch with your bank as quick as you can, they can trace the route by which your funds went and get the other place which took the transfer to give details.
Good luck.
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@Amiduffer
I posted this on amigaworld.net and a mod posted this link
http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=16018&forum=1
It appears that this guy is a well known scammer.
AmiBoy :-(
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Just by the whole PPC being for a small sum of money, that right there opens up the chance for it being a scammer...
Sucks to be a victim of this. It's the best to contact the bank. Though I dont know what they would say on who's fault it was from agreeing to transfer the money, then coming to them saying they didnt send the item.
My brother got scammed for a 2.4ghz p4 setup a year ago, and when he got the computer in, it was only a 700mhz AMD with 128mb ram and more crappy parts....... After trying to deal with the whole ebay thing and paying fines, he ended up loosing more money out of it and only got $40 in return???
Yea, pretty crappy stuff. Honestly its good to look at feedback or have some kind of a system where you can check the history.
Death to all scammers. :madashell:
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Haha! pwnd!
That'll teach you to use paypal.
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Sometimes it helps to watch the topic in threaded view :oops:.
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I think Koaftder was just referring to how lame paypal is..
I might have lost £250.00 recently from an ebay auction that never arrived, and from what I'm lead to believe I'll receive £30.00 compensation back!
Well they know were they can shove that!
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@Amiboy
Can you post any of emails you recieved from this person? If his writing style or his approach is unique in anyway it might help try to cross reference to any other transactions in which he's been involved over the years. If he can be linked to other scams, it could provide other possible aliases and/or his physical location.
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dup post ( ignore )
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Yup, pay pal really sucks but it's better than not using it. If you don't use paypal, ebay could care less if you get screwed. Paypal is not for the benefit of the customer either, it all about them holding onto the float for a few days. I pay with paypal, the funds get drawn from my bank within 30 minutes, but it takes 4 days to post through their system. When there is a problem with a transaction between buyer and seller, ebay plays the time game. They try and hold it off until one side gives in and either refunds or walks. Ebay sucks in this regard. Ive been bitten 2 or three times, and given my last post, i'm sure to be bitten in the near future. (karma is a {bleep})
Over all though, 99% of my ebay transactions have been minty smooth. Without ebay i'd be missing out on a lot of hard to come stuff or cheap parts. I'll keep playing. I never bid more than I am willing to loose.
For expensive stuff, I'll goto amigakit, i know i'll pay more but i don't have to worry about getting screwed and in my oppinion that makes up for it.
Sucks the OP got popped by a scammer though. At least he confirmed it before posting. I had a similar situation with somebody on this board regarding an a1200. I won the bid, but he needed the cash, i used pay pal. He sold it locally after i submitted the payment because he said he needed the cash quick. I waited, he refunded the money, everything was cool. I guess i got lucky. Seller turned out to be an allright guy, things happen. ( I still dont have an a1200 darnit! )
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I might be wrong here, but the same person offered me a 1260 board but refused to take PayPal. Am I the lucky one? We had a thread on EAB about a similar incident were people were conned .
It doesn't matter how you pay for an item, make sure he's known as a good seller. Nothing to do with Paypal or money transfer.
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The only negative experience I've ever had using ebay was recieving a DOA motherboard, which was promptly refunded. I'm always careful about who I buy from. I want to see numerous transactions and at least 98% positive feedback. And when in doubt, I'll even look at the negative feedback to see what the problems were.
I also never use any method of payment other than paypal unless dealing directly with a reputable business... And even then only using my debit card. Between paypal's security policies and my banks online protection, I have recourse should things go south.
And always always always make sure your transaction is at least 128 bit encrypted! Nothing online is completely secure, but a little research and safeguarding goes a long way. Cover your butt!
@AmiBoy
Do check with your bank to see what recourse you might have in this case. Check into reporting this incident to proper authorities as well, since this is not the first time this has happened. This IS a federal offense in most countries.
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The only negative experience I've ever had using ebay was recieving a DOA motherboard
one dude told me he won a laptop on ebay and got a brick in a box instead. :-(