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Amiga computer related discussion => Amiga Hardware Issues and discussion => Topic started by: stopthegop on November 02, 2006, 05:16:22 PM

Title: Does Mediator support any USB cards besides Spider
Post by: stopthegop on November 02, 2006, 05:16:22 PM
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Title: Re: Does Mediator support any USB cards besides Spider
Post by: adolescent on November 02, 2006, 05:19:20 PM
Spider 2?  :-P  Sorry, no "officially" it only supports the Spider/Spider 2.  Since OpenPCI unofficially supports Mediator then it might be possible to use one supported by that.
Title: Re: Does Mediator support any USB cards besides Spider
Post by: humppa on November 02, 2006, 05:35:22 PM
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Since OpenPCI unofficially supports Mediator then it might be possible to use one supported by that.


Can somebody please clarify on this? Has anybody ever succeeded to get any PCI-device working with OpenPCI and Mediator?

Would there be any implications for Mediator-support under Morphos (e.g. could the 8129-driver (68k) work?)?

edit: The Spider is nothing but an off-the-shelf NEC card for a few Euros that was equipped with modified firmware. Elbox drivers check for that, that's why you can't use their drivers with similar non-Elbox NEC USB-cards.
Title: Re: Does Mediator support any USB cards besides Spider
Post by: Cyberus on November 02, 2006, 05:40:25 PM
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stopthegop wrote:
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Time was when asking such a question would be deemed by some as trolling :lol:
Title: Re: Does Mediator support any USB cards besides Spider
Post by: amigakit on November 02, 2006, 06:09:21 PM
No the Mediator (http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=mediator) does not support any other PCI USB solution other than the Spider (http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=spider).

However Subway (http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=subway) can still be used in conjunction with the Mediator

@humppa
I think the problem for MorphOS Mediator support is twofold: its a closed system, Mediator has an 8MB transfer window limit.
Title: Re: Does Mediator support any USB cards besides Spider
Post by: humppa on November 02, 2006, 09:05:52 PM
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I think the problem for MorphOS Mediator support is twofold: its a closed system, Mediator has an 8MB transfer window limit.


Yes, I know - but as far as I understand, the "DMA-workaround" is not used for all cards. For some cards, a Voodoo3 needs to be installed, but for others (e.g. RTL8029 10mbit Ethernet) not.
For the latter "non-hackish" way, driver support with OpenPCI or Mediator 68k drivers under MorphOS should theoretically be possible. As far as I remember, early MOS-version had Mediator support to some extend.
I would really be happy if there would be some way to run at least a 8029 ethernet card with Mediator 68k drivers under Morphos Powerup.

I still wonder about OpenPCI Mediator support - why do they state on their website that it's "100% done", but I haven't heard a single person reporting that he succeeded to run a Mediator-device with OpenPCI?